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Topic: Best concept?
Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: Best concept?
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 02:22
Aside from such things as the musicianship or the 'classic songs' or so-and-so are your favourite band, etc etc, what in your opinion is the best concept for a concept album?

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 03:31
Elves with bulbous heads filled with 'lore' returning from Endor to commandeer vast armies of rodents to wreak their revenge on mankind for reality TV. (You don't have to tune in guys....)

OR maybe

One that is grounded in a rather mundane and ordinary reality that all of us inhabit (even Jon Anderson)Shocked

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 06:25
The journeys of a garbage truck to the planet Uranus.

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Posted By: Magnum Vaeltaja
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 07:44
Arco Iris - Agitor Lucens V

A concept album about mythical encounters between the Pre-Columbian peoples of South America and extraterrestrials. How cool is that? 


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 07:53
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Arco Iris - Agitor Lucens V

A concept album about mythical encounters between the Pre-Columbian peoples of South America and extraterrestrials. How cool is that? 


A concept album about genital warts would be cooler than that


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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: July 13 2017 at 11:50
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 00:32
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Arco Iris - Agitor Lucens V

A concept album about mythical encounters between the Pre-Columbian peoples of South America and extraterrestrials. How cool is that? 


That was the last and most awful Indiana Jones movie.

Or side 2 of Union (a kind of conceptual suite).

Or King Crimson playing Mexico City (even better). You've never heard anything so alien as Adrian Belew singing 21st Century Schizoid Man. Punk meets the Godfather indeed... (oh, the playing is superb...)


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 02:28
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Aside from such things as the musicianship or the 'classic songs' or so-and-so are your favourite band, etc etc, what in your opinion is the best concept for a concept album?


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 04:21
I think The Wall as a concept is even greater than the actual merit of the album....and I really dig the music.

Generally I do find concept albums to be hit or miss...though mostly miss. If I want a storyline I'll pick up a book or watch a flick. Musicians tend to outstay their welcome very quickly when dabbling in literature.
As for instrumental albums? They're pretty much all conceptual.


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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 04:23
tbh, the only actual story itself of a prog concept album that I've been completely astounded by for the story itself is BTTBAM's Parallax (which also spans back to some songs in their back catalogue) 

Very complex story that would make an amazing novel (if expanded realistically) 


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 07:44
My favorite concept albums are not even prog.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 08:59
Ayreon's The Human Equation is my favorite concept album and with the multiple singers is one of the best executed concept albums.  That being said, the PA Intelligentsia mostly seem to consider it cheesy at best.

The Wall is also a good concept album and is powerful in that it has dual meanings and thus has multiple concepts.

Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth is another favorite as the narration brings meaning to the musical concepts.

I tend to like concept songs that are based on actual historical figures or historical stories.  Most of these tend to be just a song on an album though rather than an entire concept album. 


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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 09:05
Regarding Ayreon (once upon a time I was really into Arjen's work), it's more the way it's portrayed via rock opera than the story itself, which is quite a tragic ordeal! 

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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 09:58
ZILTOID

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 10:09
The battle between Phil Collins and all the fans who think he ruined Genesis. Smile


Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 10:22
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

The battle between Phil Collins and all the fans who think he ruined Genesis. Smile
The battle between the fans who think he did and the fans who think he didn't is more dramatic.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 11:11
I have no idea but I always liked Tull's TAAB....based on a  poem by a fictional child prodigy.

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 12:07
The Flying Duckman

Résultat de recherche dimages pour "flying dutchman wagner"


Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 12:12
"Thick as a Brick" - I have the vinyl version (with the fake paper) wrapped up and in a cool-dry place. - Good call, but an unusual call from me - "Tenants of the Lattice Work" by mainframe, the music isn't brilliant - but the concept of a computer generated man - actually being extracted from inside the virtual-reality and getting to literally - meet his makers....is a good one.
and this was released way before the matrix as well!!!


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Posted By: Blaqua
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 16:14
IMO best concept for a progressive album would be the progressive or changing nature of human beings. A song such as La mente vola by Alphataurus could be part of such an album.


Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 18:29
ZILTOID

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Posted By: surrogate people
Date Posted: July 14 2017 at 19:16
I really don't think albums are a good vehicle for telling stories. I prefer concept albums where songs are linked by certain common topics, but don´t really tell a story; Dark side of the moon comes as an obvious example. Anyway, the prize would go to Radiohead for releasing a concept album about 9/11 years before the events actually took place

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Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: July 15 2017 at 04:00
Novels and films are the most immersive way to portray a story IMO but occasionally it works better as an album. Novels are definitely the best for expressing more convoluted concepts, unlike albums where you're like "who the hell said that, which character? huh?" 

"Why would they say that??? it's not Shakespeare????"


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Posted By: Zem
Date Posted: July 16 2017 at 03:05
For me it's easily the entire Ayreon saga. I'm a sucker for space operas to begin with and the way the story is told and unfolds over the course of the albums is fantastic. Not only are the stories in each individual album great, but the way they all link together and build upon one another is super unique. The blind minstrel Ayreon, the Electric Castle experiment, the last man on mars, the Universal Migrator, the rise and fall of the Forever, and everything in between just offers such an amazing listening experience.


Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: July 16 2017 at 05:15
Originally posted by Blaqua Blaqua wrote:

IMO best concept for a progressive album would be the progressive or changing nature of human beings. A song such as La mente vola by Alphataurus could be part of such an album.

That sounds like the concept album of Darwin! by Banco Wink


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 16 2017 at 16:14
Triumvirat's Spartacus. I'm a sucker for "an individual fighting "the system" ", and that is what Spartacus was doing in his slave revolt against imperial Rome. He did not win, but it was a heroic attempt. Triumvirat do it justice in a musical and lyrical way that gets right to the point of the processes involved in Spartacus's journey.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 20 2017 at 13:59
I like The Lamb for its sheer weirdness. Big smile

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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 20 2017 at 14:31
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I like The Lamb for its sheer weirdness. Big smile

Me too. It's f@#$% up in the good way.


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 21 2017 at 17:36
Taking this OP seriously, the ones that come to mind immediately are:

SYLVAN's Posthumous Silence is one of the best, IMHO
Ziltoid is an awesomely creative concept
Steven Wilson's Hand...Cannot...Erase is inspired by an amazing concept (Joyce Vincent)
anything related to Kobaia

The Wall is also a great suggestion
Man's self-induced extinction on ULVER's Shadows of the Sun
The pastoral scenes captured in Mike Oldfield's Hergest Ridge
Alan Parsons had a few worthy themes back in the day

Those are just the ones that come immediately to mind


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