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Topic: Nursery Cryme vs Foxtrot
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: Nursery Cryme vs Foxtrot
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 02:13
Exactly what it sounds like; which album do you like best?

For me, it's Foxtrot all the way.


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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 02:32
Foxtrot, although really love Nursery too. I believe there´s no chance Nursery to win.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 02:39
Love both, but Foxtrot gets the vote.



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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 02:48
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Foxtrot, although really love Nursery too. I believe there´s no chance Nursery to win.

Really? I always assumed there was a rift in opinion on these two albums?

I personally can't get into Nursery Cryme like I can Foxtrot and everything after it. It's not a bad record by any means, it just doesn't do it for me like Foxtrot + SEBTP + Lamb does.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 02:58
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Foxtrot, although really love Nursery too. I believe there´s no chance Nursery to win.

Really? I always assumed there was a rift in opinion on these two albums?

I personally can't get into Nursery Cryme like I can Foxtrot and everything after it. It's not a bad record by any means, it just doesn't do it for me like Foxtrot + SEBTP + Lamb does.

the rift is between Foxtrot and SEbtP.

Nursery Cryme, seeing 0 next to them makes me click for it. 


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 03:37
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Foxtrot, although really love Nursery too. I believe there´s no chance Nursery to win.


Really? I always assumed there was a rift in opinion on these two albums?

I personally can't get into Nursery Cryme like I can Foxtrot and everything after it. It's not a bad record by any means, it just doesn't do it for me like Foxtrot + SEBTP + Lamb does.


NC took me longer to get into. It's actually a classic album in terms of the songs; Hogweed, Musical Box, Salmarcis etc.. but I had heard what I considered to be better later versions of these songs before I'd heard NC, and that made appreciating the album, to extent that it probably deserved, harder for me. Foxtrot is also a step up musically and in terms of production.

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 03:54
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Foxtrot, although really love Nursery too. I believe there´s no chance Nursery to win.


Really? I always assumed there was a rift in opinion on these two albums?

I personally can't get into Nursery Cryme like I can Foxtrot and everything after it. It's not a bad record by any means, it just doesn't do it for me like Foxtrot + SEBTP + Lamb does.


NC took me longer to get into. It's actually a classic album in terms of the songs; Hogweed, Musical Box, Salmarcis etc.. but I had heard what I considered to be better later versions of these songs before I'd heard NC, and that made appreciating the album, to extent that it probably deserved, harder for me. Foxtrot is also a step up musically and in terms of production.

Definitely!

Also, Foxtrot production, especially the 2008 remaster, is so crystal clear. It doesn't sound like 1972, but does at the same time. Remarkable.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 04:00
I never play one without playing the other so its a tie!

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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 04:01
Nursery Cryme for me. Love that whole album. When the music is pure magic weak production or whatever is irrelevant to me. I always skip Foxtrot's a-side. Nothing for me there. Still kind of a favorite but for Horizons/Supper's Ready alone.  

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 04:09
Two juicy fruits of the same branch. I pick up both.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 04:28
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Nursery Cryme for me. Love that whole album. When the music is pure magic weak production or whatever is irrelevant to me. I always skip Foxtrot's a-side. Nothing for me there. Still kind of a favorite but for Horizons/Supper's Ready alone.  


I’d be lying if I said Supper’s Ready isn’t what seals the deal for me. I find it perfect in every way.

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 05:01
Both. I find them quite entertaining for quite different reasons. 


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 05:07
Foxtrot is my overall second favourite.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 05:15
This is a toughie. I agree with Blacksword in that I was more familiar with the Genesis Live versions of Hogweed and Musical Box before I heard Nursery Cryme much. I also agree with the person who said they skip the first side of Foxtrot, but then it does have Supper's Ready.
Not sure if I can decide between Musical Box, Hogweed and Salmacis vs Supper's Ready.


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 05:17
this is a bit difficult for me to answer because when Friede and I speak of "Nursery Cryme" we actually mean "Nursery Cryme +". we made our own version of "Nursery Cryme" with two added tracks, "Happy the Man" and "Twilight Alehouse". and this version of "Nursery Cryme" îs in my opinion superior to "Foxtrot"

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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 05:18
I love both ... can't vote !Clap


Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 05:21
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Nursery Cryme for me. Love that whole album. When the music is pure magic weak production or whatever is irrelevant to me. I always skip Foxtrot's a-side. Nothing for me there. Still kind of a favorite but for Horizons/Supper's Ready alone.  
To me a-side is as perfect as b. Really no bad songs in this album.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 06:39
Love both, picked Foxtrot.


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 07:21
Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Nursery Cryme for me. Love that whole album. When the music is pure magic weak production or whatever is irrelevant to me. I always skip Foxtrot's a-side. Nothing for me there. Still kind of a favorite but for Horizons/Supper's Ready alone.  
To me a-side is as perfect as b. Really no bad songs in this album.
Good for you I guess. 

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 07:23
As mentioned already both are classic Genesis....hard to pick.
Musical Box...Salmacis......Watcher...Supper......all great tracks.


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:21
Foxtrot

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:24
Foxtrot.

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:27
I'm not going to vote because I'm not sure. Typically I think I prefer NC but Foxtrot has SR on it. 


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:45
I seriously wouldn't have bothered making this poll if I wasn't under the incorrect assumption that this would be a close call, lol.

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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 10:49
NC is my favourite Genesis album.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 11:02
Foxtrot is on top for me.

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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 11:20
Foxtrot - probably my favourite album of all time (...have I mentioned that? )

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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 11:56
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Foxtrot - probably my favourite album of all time (...have I mentioned that? )

I would have NEVER guessed you liked Genesis Wink.


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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 12:30
Nursery for me


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 14:13
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Both. I find them quite entertaining for quite different reasons. 
A precise, eloquent answer. Truly this.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 14:44
Trot The Fox 

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: March 23 2018 at 21:40
Nursery Cryme

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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 24 2018 at 00:01
I have to go with Foxtrot. It's a work of art. Miles ahead of Nursery Cryme 

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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: March 25 2018 at 15:00
Both, so I voted for Nursery


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: March 25 2018 at 15:06
Not only is Nursery Cryme my favorite Genesis album but NC is one of my favorite albums of all time.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 25 2018 at 15:59
both about the same for me... and like pretty much all Genesis albums in general in that period..  some out of the this world good stuff..  some completely forgettable stuff.  They never did a consistent or truly great album.


Hard to choose...  go with Foxtrot for the same reasons I tend to underrate it.. 


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