Top 8 live albums - the final
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Topic: Top 8 live albums - the final
Posted By: Lewian
Subject: Top 8 live albums - the final
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 10:40
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And here's the final - the top 2 of all the semifinals. Are these prog's best 8 live albums? Obviously not everybody will agree (and Deep Purple sneaked in surprisingly as officially "Proto Prog"), but these are the top ones according to your votes, both very well known and appreciated. Can Gentle Giant once more beat the biggies? Can Deep Purple show all the proggies how a live album should be done? Is it more a curse than a blessing for Genesis to have two albums in the final, as their fans' votes will split up? Will Yessongs win despite all the stick the sound quality got in the semifinal (which it won nevertheless)? Can Bursting Out surprise me once more and even claim the top spot? Are there enough Camel lovers out there to make their Live Record shine? Can the orchestra boost Renaissance's outsider status? You tell me. |
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 10:43
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Purple! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 10:51
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By the way, according to votes grabbed in trhe semifinal (and overall if there's a tie): 9. Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Pictures at an Exhibition 10. Tangerine Dream - Ricochet 11. Pink Floyd - Ummagumma (Live album) 12. Hawkwind - Space Ritual 13. Grobschnitt - Solar Music 14. Magma - Live/Hhai (Köhntark) 15. Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine 16. Rush - Exit... Stage Left 17. Anekdoten - Walking the Dead/ Live in Japan 18. Eloy - Live 19. Henry Cow - Concerts 20. Big Big Train - From Stone and Steel |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 10:57
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Seconds Out. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Larkstongue41
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 11:37
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Renaissance ends up being my pick just over Deep Purple. Perhaps a bit unfair because it's a box set but I would have liked to see how KC's The Great Deceiver would have fared in there. No better live album(s) imo. ------------- "Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar." |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 12:33
| Bursting Out! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 13:50
ELP's WBMFTTSTNE didn't fare that well? Wow. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Lewian wrote:Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 14:44
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urrggg... god bless prog fan.. the most untalented and unexciting of all prog bands gets two live albums in the final. Typical PA's..well done bobbleheads.. the puppetmaster Ivan is proud of you all... Purple by lightyears.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 15:42
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Yessongs is the ultimate live album for me, Playing the Fool a good second. ------------- 
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 15:48
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Great albums, but can't see beyond 'Made in Japan' - Deep Purple off this list. Camel and Yes make up the podium. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 15:52
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I like all of these. What the hell's not to like? |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 17:49
| For me it's a tie between "Bursting Out" and "Made in Japan". |
Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 18:37
| Yes - Yessongs > Gentle Giant - Playing the Fool > Genesis - Live > Camel - A Live Record > Jethro Tull - Bursting Out > Renaissance - Live at Carnegie Hall > Deep Purple - Made in Japan > Genesis - Seconds Out |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 14 2018 at 22:26
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 02:32
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Yessongs Playing The Fool Seconds Out A Live Recording … …. ….. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 04:07
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I was about to vote for Carnegie Hall, but Made In Japan is THE live album ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 05:16
I thought that one of SBB's live albums would make it (like Karlstad 1975, anyone?)... What is it with You people?  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 05:37
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hahaha.. yeah man... blame the bobbleheads Bartek.. I sure do! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 06:51
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I hadn't included SBB but when I asked for suggestions, it wasn't put forward. Neither was "The Great Deceiver". ELP's WBMFTTSTNE lost to Ummagumma, Pictures at an Exhibition and Seconds Out in the qualifiers. Obviously a series of polls ultimately is a popularity contest and the result is determined by headcounts, channelled by the somewhat biased decisions made by the organiser, that's just how it is. For featuring what we really treasure, a collection of top 10, top 50 or even top 100 lists of live albums would still be better. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 07:05
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when I did my albums contests Lew... I left out the usual suspects. For two reasons.. one to obviously cut down on the bobblehead fanboy vote and highly predictable endings..... the 2nd of course.. the main one.....expose people to albums they might not be familiar with. You might try it next time minus the usual suspects we knew those were popular before you ever started the contest. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 07:31
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Camel, GG, Renaissance and Genesis(Seconds Out) are head and shoulders above the rest. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 10:21
Fair enough. For this one I'm still curious how the usual suspects do against each other. Well, actually, it's not just the usual suspects with most fans... PF and KC are not in the final, VDGG did far worse than Camel, GG and Renaissance, whereas in most polls they're on a par with those, and we have Deep Purple. OK Yes is in the lead and Genesis is there with two albums but still. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 13:32
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Trull ------------- |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 16:17
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Gave Camel some love , but frankly I rarely listen to live albums these days........ ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 16:43
| DP gets my vote. |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: April 15 2018 at 17:09
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Playing the Fool +1 ------------- 
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 05:44
| < ="text/" ="" ="/B1D671CF-E532-4481-99AA-19F420D90332etdefender/huidhui.js?0=0&0=0&0=0">Jethro Tull - Bursting Out |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 05:55
| Yessongs for me but Genesis Live is a close second. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 09:29
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Seconds Out for me! ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 09:47
| Renaissance > Yessongs > Seconds Out |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 12:01
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Playing The Fool ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: doompaul
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 12:34
| Deep Purple. Man, is that a great record. |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 14:02
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Yessongs ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 16 2018 at 16:22
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GG over JT ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 17 2018 at 05:34
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Very good showing by Deep Purple! I'm surprised that this album classified as "Proto-Prog" can defend the second rank. It's pretty strong though. In the first round, Genesis Live was better than Seconds Out, now it's no longer... Apparently all these Deep Purple voters love Genesis Live more; I can understand that, though despite not being the biggest Genesis fan, I voted Genesis Live here. It's just by some distance the Genesis album I play most often, a collection of powerful renditions of some of their strongest songs. Renaissance is my number two. Other things are still quite open; will Gentle Giant end up very respectable third? Will Renaissance beat Camel this time despite having lost to A Live Record in the semifinal? Can Jethro Tull at least keep up with the Genesis album that secures more votes? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: April 17 2018 at 06:12
Deep Purple are here on PA under proto-prog for the early Rod Evans era albums. What came later can be seen as hard rock, heavy prog, blues rock.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 17 2018 at 07:19
This album can be classified as Prog Related, or maybe even Heavy Prog, methinks (not as Proto-Prog). Anyway, it can keep par with the major prog live albums.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 17 2018 at 13:06
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the one with the unaccompanied bass pedal solo from Michael Rutherford ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 17 2018 at 13:39
| Genesis Live, my first Genesis and first prog album. I played it again after ten years maybe. Still love it. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 26 2018 at 10:09
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So the ranking is 1) Yessongs 2) Made in Japan 3) Playing the Fool 4) Bursting Out and Seconds Out 6) Genesis Live 7) Live at Carnegie Hall 8) A Live Record Yessongs is an unsurprising yet worthy winner in my opinion even though I'd have ranked it at about 4 out of these. I'm really surprised that Deep Purple can secure the second place, and it's also unusual to see Camel in the last position for once, although given that KC, PF, ELP and VDGG didn't even make the final, it's not that much of an embarrassment. But this is all so tight that just by upping the poll things can change again. Anyway, thanks for voting! |
Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: April 26 2018 at 11:35
| Playing the Fool |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: April 29 2018 at 23:54
| Voted for Yessongs, but speaking about Made In Japan, my opinion is that any of the Jimi Hendrix live albums would comfortably beat it, as would the Live In Leeds (The Who) album, as would The Allman Brothers Live at the Fillmore East concert. But the Deep Purple live album has the reputation and people know it well, so it gets all the votes (not that it's a bad album). |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 06:26
I was admittedly a bit inconsistent on "Prog Related" by including Deep Purple but not some others incl. the ones you listed and David Bowie, so they didn't have the chance to compete. here. Personally I'd pick Deep Purple over all of these based on personal taste but these are great live albums, too, and it would've been interesting to see whether some of them could've snatched themselves a rank between prog's most treasured bands in such a live album poll. |
Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 11:06
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These are all great albums, but these are mostly great collections of songs played very similarly to the original studio albums. When I think of 'best live albums', this connotes for me a situation in which the song is played very differently, either a new arrangement, or there is substantial improvisation that makes the piece different from the studio album, or there are really stunning extended solos, so that the live version is special. The Fish, and Yours is No Disgrace on Yessongs are different (but not really the rest of Yessongs). Having Richard Sinclair sing on A Live Record is somewhat different. The one that is most consistently different, though, is Made in Japan, with its extended guitar and organ solos. However, I am not a huge Deep Purple fan, so this album for me just isn't as good as the Camel, Yes, or other albums in the list. So...under slight duress I voted for Camel, given it looks like it needs some help, but I agree that some of Jimi's live albums, or the Allman Bros Live at the Fillmore, or some (many!) of Zappa's live albums, would be better choices for 'best live' albums that are special/different. I also like the live version of Garden of Dreams on The Flower Kings 'Meet the Flower Kings' album, which is very different from the studio version of the tune. But I guess that one didn't make it through the semi-finals. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 11:09
| Maybe I should by the Yessongs album. I only know it by YouTube. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 30 2018 at 11:47
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^I'd wait until the next remaster. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |