Your Word PROG’s definition
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Topic: Your Word PROG’s definition
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Subject: Your Word PROG’s definition
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 00:49
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Strict or large interpretation? (I support the last one). |
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 08:17
| I'm not sure I understand the question Andrea. |
Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 08:33
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Me neither. I'm intrigued... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 08:45
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I think maybe its read "what in your own words,is the definition of Prog? long definition preferred" ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 09:14
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I guess he wants to know whether you define prog strict (only traditional 70's prog) or more lenient (Symphonic Metal for instance). I choose the latter ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 09:17
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MikeEnRegalia wrote:Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 09:20
| Andrea could be a she |
Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 09:29
 you're right -------------
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Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 10:31
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PROG: Complex music, sometimes... borderline crazy. Its main objetive being captivating the listener with virtuosic displays of musicianship, odd-tempo signatures and original lyrics, all for the sake of improving the style to which applies. It can be labelled as highly creative, at best also innovative, and detail-oriented. For me, that's the basic definition, apply that to any kind of style and you can add "prog" to the name of the genre. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 10:39
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------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 10:42
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Andrea is NOT a she!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Explain in your own words what do you mean when you use the word prog! For those who don't know old greek language "Andrea" is a word meaning: MALE!!!!! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 10:49
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^ In German Andrea is indeed a female name ... the male name is Andreas, or Andrew in English. But knowing you're from Italy, it's clear that you're male. As for my definition of prog, I agree with Odysseus (and I'm too lazy to write my own definition). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: TURK182!
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 11:21
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In french "Andrea" is a female name too and we use for the male "André". So, excuse us Andrea but it was confusing. For your question, my answer will not be elaborate as much as Odysseus but it goes that way: Prog is for me a kind of rock that is more refine by playing beautifull melodies in a complex or non-complex way. You could use a broad kind of instruments like flute, violin, piano, etc. that is not use in conventional rock. The structures of the songs must be far away from the commercials structures and the length of the song could be very long. The lyrics are often tales or story on fantastics worlds. It's pretty short for telling all I want to say but it's my personal definition and if I just speak of rock in my definition it's because it's what I prefer ------------- "A Flower!!!" "If you go down to Willow farm, you look for Butterflies..." |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 11:25
PS I'm sorry for my english! |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 11:37
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I've read also in this site a long definition of the word "prog". There are so many aspects: long lenght song, fantastic world lyrics about, complex arrangements, non-conventional instruments etc.....
The question is: in your opinion, all these elements must be present in the same moment and in the same song or album to make you define that song or that album "prog"?
I think is not always necessary, for some albums or songs being enough something of these.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:02
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Prog - bands who play songs longer than three minutes and who are on the radio after 3 AM. It's not mine, it belongs to Polish progressive guru Piotr Kosiński. ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:03
Thank you for answer! |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:16
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Me Too..!Posted By: sonic_assassin
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:16
Aah, excellent, then Hawkwind are definitely still prog  I'm gonna listen to their new album later (when it's getting dark and I've had a few beers).... |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:35
Large interpretation...you might need a whole manual to understan it... "Understanding Prog for dummies". hehehehehe still, the best way to understand it is to listen to it...its not as easy as punk ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:39
"Kosa" is such a bastard! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:40
| Prog is Brain Food. |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:42
Yummy brain food at that  ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 12:47
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My "large" interpretation of the word "prog": prog is not a brain food, is a brain menu! |
Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:07
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My brain is hungry! Oh well, guess I'm gonna have to spin some Tull, then...
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Posted By: Kohllapse
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:08
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:19
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Thi is the exhaustive definition !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Prog in person, His Majesty Ian Anderson (and his bright flute) (1977-1978 I presume...)
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Posted By: Odysseus
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 13:21
Cool pic, Kohllapse. 
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Posted By: mburkhardt
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 20:21
Best definition I've ever heard. I've always tended to think of prog as more of a state of mind than an actual musical form, which is why I've loosely included genre-bending bands like Steely Dan and Kraftwerk in my personal definition. (please refrain from flaming me....pleeeze!!! If its any consolation, I know people who only consider Byrds or mid-60s Beatles songs as "pop," rather than the broader connotation of popular music. I see the point in both instances, it just doesn't necessarily work in my own corner of the world. ------------- "The frog was a prince, the prince was a brick, the brick was an egg, the egg was a bird." |
)Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 21:44
| Prog for me: Music that pushes forward whatever the mainstream music is doing. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 22:12
| My prog definition: Get good recommendations and then listen, listen, listen! |
Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 22:15
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Too hard of a question. You could have a thread describing each SUB genre of prog. Sheesh. Gaston -------------  
It's the same guy. Great minds think alike. |
Posted By: Sam Fire
Date Posted: September 13 2005 at 22:20
Interestingly enough, today at stage crew for my school's fall musical ("Once Upon This Island", anyone heard of it?), my science teacher and I were trying to explain what prog was to a couple of those prep/hippie/happy people that run around wearing discordant colors and clothes . Neither of us got very far, they kept thinking that we were referring to Prague (D'oh!). So we gave up and started bemoaning the fact that no radio stations near us play any prog (except Roundabout, Lucky Man, and some various Rush songs on the local classic rock station- but you have to wait through all sorts of musical filth and meanless DJ-talk to get to it!).
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Posted By: jefmoret
Date Posted: September 14 2005 at 11:15
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Traditional Rock + X = Prog, where X=.... An expanded level of intellect and innovation in the songwriting A greater display of technical performance An architecture borrowed from classical and/or jazz A stronger integration of visual presentation, both in performance and in packaging Songs that provide a feeling that you have gone somewher rather than just listed to music |