Prog World Cup-Quarterfinals: PFM- Focus
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Topic: Prog World Cup-Quarterfinals: PFM- Focus
Posted By: Morningrise
Subject: Prog World Cup-Quarterfinals: PFM- Focus
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 04:11
| Pick your favourite. |
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 05:04
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PFM for me |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 05:36
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Close but PFM ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:04
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PFM is essential in their entirety. Focus has one essential song. PFM gets the vote. I will however say I wish Italy was represented by Banco. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:09
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Have to go with PFM . . . ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:13
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PFM ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:28
| Focus is cool, but I'm sticking with PFM here. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:30
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Yodel apart, I've never felt any particular feeling for Focus, while "Impressioni di Settembre" and "E' Festa" are enough to justify all the love for this band. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:31
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But for Nederlands I would have chosen Ayreon or Kayak.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 06:50
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Focus are brilliant, though I do like PFM. However, not enough to beat Focus. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 07:50
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Wow, I love both. I'll have a Hamburger. ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 08:15
as someone of Italian heritage I feel compelled to vote for PFM  but have to vote Focus for Hamburger Concerto album alone.
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 08:19
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Focus was ESSENTIAL to my progitude in my youth; so many high points that still leave me speechless. PFM are refined and sublime and fairly constant but they never punched me with the emotion that Jan, Thijs, Bert, Pierre, Proby, Phillip, and others did. FOCUS! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 08:54
For a Prog World Cup, my choice would be Focus from the Netherlands and PFM form Italy, but in terms of preference, I'd go with Supersister for the Netherlands and Area from Italy. I do think that PFM and Focus are a very good match-up. I love both PFM and Focus, and at different times in my life, both have been my favourite band. Going with PFM. |
octopus-4 wrote:Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 09:53
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One achieved somewhat more than the other over a course of years, so it's indubitably PFM. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 11:06
| PFM, but very, very close. Focus is great. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 11:36
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First round in this battle where my decision wasn't instantaneous. I love 3 Focus albums, but PFM from the debut, through both their Italian and English albums up through Jet Lag is a monster and gets my vote. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 14:54
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Focus...because Jan. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 15:20
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PFM... because math rules 3 6 star albums and 2 5 star albums trumps anyday regardless of ones level of mathematical education one 8 star album and a cute though complerely kickass novelty song... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 15:47
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Still can't be believe Focus beat Magma. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 15:52
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yeah... that was the one real upset we had in this World Cup.. unless one wants to call UZ nipping Rivershade at the final bell to be an upset. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 15:54
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You know, the real prog fans need to retaliate about the dominance of the fans of people who like to put saucepans on their heads and hit them with wooden spoons ! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 15:59
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well it wasnt too long ago I was a proud and prominent member of the tuneless and talentless anti Avant crew. Then you two..and a certain Miriodor show and album started my conversion. I might still be a rocker and sh*t kicker at heart.. but have to really come to love the sounds of wooden spoons and metal pans. especially when accompanied by a bassoon...
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Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 16:02
YEAH, I mean I like Focus now especially their 3rd album.. but no it's not better than MDK or Magma has a bunch of good albums actually. I can't believe this. So anyway just voted for PFM because.. it's just wrong man.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 16:14
I'm filing an injunction. RECOUNT! RECOUNT! RECOUNT! ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 17:06
Symphonic will almost always beat Zeuhl... unfortunately. ------------- 
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Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 17:17
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Focus is good, but PFM is better. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 19:28
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Not even close, PFM... ------------- He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 19:53
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PFM I suppse ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 23:31
| Focus very easily. I have never fully warmed up to PFM. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 25 2018 at 23:43
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Yodeling? I'll take PFM. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 03:35
Look at the votes now. Riverside are winning. This is because a number of real prog fans are so disillusioned with this site that they hardly bother visiting it, hence they missed the poll until after it closed. That's confirmed by the low number of votes in all these polls. At it's heyday, several thousand people visited the site each day. It's a fraction of that now. Other prog sites are thriving: I'm on them and so are many people who used to be regulars on here. Why are they leaving? Because this site has become a love in for Avant/RIO and many of us can't stand that genre (Cardiacs perhaps excepted). I doubt if I'll be on here in 6 months unless things pick up: other prog sites are much more to my taste. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 03:55
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Silly me... I thought it was the whole Captcha debacle that was driving people away  . Now it turns out to be it is the horrible tastes of people like me and my friend Ian (aka Nogbad). Feels good to be so important !BTW, Voted for PFM, and not out of patriotism. While I have a lot of time for classic Focus, I find PFM's music more interesting.
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 04:27
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Love them both, but PFM takes this for me. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 07:51
Even sillier than your recent Zappa/Horslips comment, friend. On the other hand...I wonder why some folks, the ones who constantly claims that the PA forum people are so f**king boring nowadays are still hanging around. I'm a little bit slow between the ears (too much Old Toby), can you explain that to me guys? ------------- |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 08:51
Fantastic post, RIO being a niche within a niche is the cause of all PA's problems. Guess people just got bored of endless Yes & Genesis threads. I checked the first two pages of the two main forums and found a total of two RIO threads. I guess my quiet underground revolution must be really really underground as literally no-one is posting. The RIO Appreciation thread hasn't had a post since MAY! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 09:25
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PFM by a mile!!! |
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 10:27
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Focus -------------
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 13:12
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Love both, but PFM more. ------------- Shake & bake. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 13:35
Haha PA's open-minded listeners with their broad tastes in music are ruining this site. A real prog fan doesn't like RIO and chooses Riverside over Univers Zero. Obviously. If everyone had just kept to liking Camel, Strawbs and the likes this place would have far more visitors. Anyway my impression is that most of us enjoys the bands Hercules likes - so the problem is that we like so much more.
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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 14:24
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I feel like the prog rock schizm is about to happen. The night of the long songs....People with sauce pans on their heads and newly sharpened wooden spoons will be prowling the site. Boring old farts who like dad prog will be mercilessly persecuted till they bugger off to the far corner of the internet... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 15:06
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to begin? Have some of you all been living under a rock. It has been going on for years. there is a reason this site is dying... the schism is not about to happen. It happened years ago.. the best single post ever recorded on a prog rock forum for he nailed it.. and it explains why this forum is dying. More so than M@X's general f**kery.... or Ian and Raff's insidous promoting of pots and pans music. there is a reason we as first generation collabs were bombardeed and hounded by bands wanting entry into the hallowed halls of PA's .. now today.. they simply don't give a f**k. It is a new world out there and 'prog fan' worshipping your classic bands and their modern retreads are a dying breed... say it again brother.... from 2011 for those who simply love the music.. but don't understand it.. or what is going on with it. Jacob said: I'm just going to chime in on the original post, dunno what's been discussed over all these pages. I whole-heartedly applaud every prog festival organizer who has ever walked the earth for their amazing contribution to the entire prog revival. Without people like Rob and Chad and Greg and Steve and George and the rest, a lot of us in prog bands would simply be nowhere. Progfest and NEARfest in particular have been essential to the growth of Scandinavian prog in the 90's and noughties. It just seems that the time has come now for prog to find a new way. The festivals have become, as was mentioned, nostalgia get-togethers. They have been artificial life-lines for stagnant acts, rather than fertile grounds for new, exciting acts. And those organizers who have tried to feature some new blood have been punished by a rather backwards-looking audience. As with NEARfest this year. I don't think blaming either the audience, the organizers or the bands has any virtue. What I think, is that the prog umbrella for too long has tried to shelter two very different things under its shade: On the one hand, the nostalgia scene, which features both the old acts that are still around, like Yes and whatever Italian band you care to mention, and "old-new" bands like Flower Kings and Transatlantic - bands that, though newish, cater mostly to very conservative audiences. On the other hand, the new progressive scene, which could include anything from The Mars Volta to Gösta Berlings Saga, and which really isn't a scene at all, especially considering that many of the bands themselves have no awareness of being part of a "prog scene". These two strands really are extremely different. There's plenty of people with a love for both (including, to a certain extent, myself). But to throw the typical fans of both scenes (the former, ageing, follicle-challenged geezers - bless'em all!, the latter young, dynamic listeners brought up to endless eclecticism and irreverence to genres - bless them too!), might just be too much of a stretch. Maybe it's time for a divorce. Let the geezers have their nostalgia-fests, and let the "new prog" bands get out on the regular rock circuit and compete with any other rock genres out there rather than put them in the geriatric ward of "prog" where the smell of old age will make them unpalatable to both the rock media and the major labels. No disrespect to either!!! :-) And as an a propos: Prog labels that sign new, fresh and exciting bands should be careful how they market and present the bands. Selling them in the traditional way ("washes of mellotrons, recall Eloy in their heyday, rave reception at Bolivia Art Rock Fest (BARF)") will, quite simply, sell them short. It's a new world out there. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 15:30
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Heh...can't we all just get along......those who like the classic old prog and those who like the newer obnoxious stuff? ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 15:34
| Last day to vote |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 15:46
and they exist.... but the problem is those like Hercules and his ilk that find anything that sounds remotely progressive to be ... what was teh world used... annoying. No problem but again speaks to the heart of the real problem.. and the fracture point. Those who care only to get their nostaligia freak on.. and those who love the genre in its truest and most valid form. Truly progressive music that progressess, evolves and challenges the f**king listeners. Some as Jacob noted love both.. but make no mistake.. there are plenty on both sides that dismiss anything that challenges them ... or more with the younger set.. anything that sounds like the sh*t they heard, and done far better, 30 or 40 years earlier. Sites like this, festivals like Nearfest tried to stuff lovers of both ends under one umbrella but it really wasn't a viable long term success story which is why the 'prog revival' of the naughts has come to such a crashing end in the teens of the new century. The divorce he forsaw.. happened.. which was illustrated by my point about the bsnds simply not caring about being added to this site.. which trust me.. was not what we had to deal with back in the early days of this site when they sure as hell did care It really is two different camps out there.. a few of us love both.. but make no mistake.. we are the minority here. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 17:04
I like a lot of classic prog (Camel, Genesis, Gryphon, Tull, Focus, Rush, Strawbs, Rush, to name a few), and a lot of new stuff (Haken, Mostly Autumn, Big Big Train, Riverside, Moon Safari, Lazuli, to name a few). It's just the intolerant comments of some because I don't happen to worship certain genres and certain bands, which almost imply that I'm wierd or defective in some way. Never used to happen when Snow Dog, Hugues Chantraine, and the old crew were around. We respected each other too much to disparage each others' tastes. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 17:08
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yo sh*t for brains.. you opened this can of worms by blaming Avant fans for the state of the site. Don't go playing the victim here. I know them better than you... while you were doing whatever you were doing I was working side by side with them as collabs....and they weren't the nice guys either when idiots came around. It was a charm of the site back in the day. They would have treated your stupid posts more roughly than Ian, Raff and me have. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 18:12
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Jan Akkerman! Thijs Van Leer! I brought Focus within 4 (28/32). Come on Focus Fans! Vote. I probably listen to Focus lately nowadays more than any other band, aside from Hackett maybe. ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: October 26 2018 at 18:26
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Love both bands but my vote goes to Focus. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 02:20
F**k off Micky, you're the main problem. I find you utterly offensive and unfunny. Right, that's me off. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 03:02
| ^hm I don't mind anyone loathing the music I love. I prefer posters with opinions as I have opinions myself. I guess I enjoy disagreeing with Hercules' posts as he seems to know the difference between sl*g.ing off a band or a genre and personal insults. Replying "yo sh*t for brains" because someone sees or remembers things differently is not cool. |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 04:02
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I think this Jacob guy is right with the promoting aspect. I hate it
whenever I hear all those new and sometimes very fresh bands get
compared to these old stinkers (I mean that in a nice way, I still love
them but how could they be fresh, anyways). Most times this leads to me
searching for other bands with more interesting description and only
some times I give the ones mentioned above another chance (you get it?
Another chance is necessary before the first listen, its so annoying)
just to find out they aren´t even remotely close to the dinosaurs in
their overall vision and that I actually would have found something new
and refreshing if someone had praised it in a more exciting manner.
Those guys marketing bands like this should read a volta review. They
always make you hungry for the adventure. Could even help giving Prog a
better connotation again. Think retro bands should get their own
archives why not make up a genre called "retro - rock" and put them
there so the retro fans get the nostalgia they want (and yeah I also
mean non progressive ones). Because retro isn´t progressive. At least we
should have a category thats retro - prog (because it is still
progressive rock) so I don´t have to pick them out of the eclectic prog
section, especially, which gets kind of on my nerves when I want to find
a nice eclectone. Take a look at this german side for instance: http://www.babyblaue-seiten.de/index.php?albumId=550&content=review" rel="nofollow - http://www.babyblaue-seiten.de/index.php?albumId=550&content=review They use the retro prog banner for a long time now. The scissor is more and more opening. We have Chenille on one side and Camel on the other (In between there are Picchio dal Pozzos and Höyry Kones... I know that its not that 2dimensional) and that really is a broad scope. |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 06:21
| Poll's over. PFM advances to semifinals. Final score: 34-29 |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 09:05
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I know it's too late but I went with Focus anyway. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 11:05
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Ad hominem insults are for those who have nothing intelligent to say...I have tried to appreciate some of the more eclectic bands of the first wave. Like GG and VDGG but I find that the music annoys me the more I listen to it. So the true avant garde acts are just for people who like to put an angry wasp in their ear and get off on the buzz so to speak... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 27 2018 at 12:26
Or people who just have different tastes than you.  ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 02:47
Ridiculous. Everyone knows arguing on the Internet is a zero-sum game. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 04:19
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But isn´t that strange. I mean noone really has got a face to risk. Why shouldn´t that lead to a more open and objective discussion. Makes me sad. That it isn´t that way round shows that a discussion is more often based on who has the most authority or presence. On the internet we could be free to win or lose and noone would care. But maybe therein lies the problem, objectivity can only be forced. |
Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 05:18
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Clearly the niche genre of the already obscure Musical genre of prog has a pull that some people cannot Resist. I have an acquaintance who only.listens to 78s of old American slave music...That's about as obscure a musical taste as you can get...and very narrow..but that's the buzz for him..Only a handful of people in the world have the same taste... ------------- Play me my song.....Here it comes again....... |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 06:41
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You may be partly right, but I think it´s only natural for some Prog listeners to grow into this avant type of music, cause many of them want to be challenged especially the ones who like to analyze their music but not necessarily those. Some of us internet guys are pretty nerdy guys and spend a lot of time on music so we cannot stay in one place all those years. And when I think about it Avant is very challenging even after years, so I guess that might be the case. Of course on the other hand we have a more romantic type of prog listener, who likes the "Sturm und Drang" qualities of prog. The strive for more than ordinary live, that is so essential to the beginning of prog. But I also guess some of the listeners of ordinary prog only (sorry for that it´s not offensively minded) would maybe like to achieve finding worth in avant but I guess they simply can´t because it uses stimuli that this person just can´t bear. Growling, Hectic, Dissonance, Discordance and Variance of Instruments in an unrelatable manner. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 08:59
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A very strange discussion indeed in a PFM vs. Focus poll... |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 09:13
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I voted for Focus btw |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 12:04
Indeed... What I appreciate the most about this site is the possibility to know music that I never thought to listen to and that includes classics and modern avant-garde music. I accept and I am not offended by opinions contrary to my personal tastes. It's just music. PFM easily +1 ------------- 
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 13:44
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Damn this got close. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 14:24
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Yeah just to soon I guess focus would beat pfm |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 14:50
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Just realised I haven't voted. Very close - two great European prog bands - but more musical memories from Focus. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 15:49
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Tied-up. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 15:52
| ^Poll's over since a couple of days ago. PFM won this one |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 15:53
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Yeah noticed that. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 16:06
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... Would have voted sooner, but this thread was not a pleasant one to visit a few days ago. Hopefully it's all calmed down and we can celebrate our common love of prog and appreciate our diversity in the bands we listen too. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 18:51
No, man. There must be some mistake.  ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 19:46
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 28 2018 at 20:19
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I was thinking the same thing. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: GrafHaarschnitt
Date Posted: October 29 2018 at 02:37
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And I was asking myself why a discussion should be seen as that devilish of a thing. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 20 2020 at 12:34
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Focus ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: April 21 2020 at 20:33
| Glad Focus won. Could you take the guitarist out of Focus and put him in PFM. That would make them the best band in the world. |