"Growing" albums
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Topic: "Growing" albums
Posted By: moonlitbay
Subject: "Growing" albums
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 14:37
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Everybody has got a record stacked in the back of the collection, almost forgotten... Then you decide to give it a second chance, because you remember that your first listen just didn't give you anything. When you give it a spin or ten more, you realize that this record is one of the best you've ever heard. For my part this is "Remedy Lane" by Pain of salvation. Now I can't believe that it was "forgotten" for over six months.... Believe it if you can. Does anybody else have a similar experience???? ------------- A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!! |
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 14:42
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For me is:
Anyway, what is represented in your avatar? Seems cool, but I can't understand what it is!!!! ___BYE___ ------------- 
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 16:14
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Caravan's 'Cunning Stunts' was a real grower on me- it wasn't until after a few plays I began to appreciate what a stunner it was. The Uriah Heep albums 'Wonderworld' and 'Return To Fantasy' were also the same for me too. Camel's 'I Can See Your House From Here', 'Breathless' and 'Nude' (particularly 'Nude') grew to be amongst my favourite albums. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 17:11
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I bought "Still Life" by VdGG sometime in the late 70s or early 80s and didn't like it, so I sold it. Now (probably because I've "matured") I love it. |
Posted By: sonic wizard
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:05
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I always have to hear a Genesis album a few times before I truly appreciate it. The fist time I heard a hard Opeth song (I had been a longtime fan of Damnation), I thought "what the hell?" At fist I couldn't stand Akerfielt's croaked voice, but after listening to Blackwater Park over 10 times, I finally got used to the vocals and realized Opeth is an amazing band. I can't stop listening to them now! ------------- Arguing on the internet is a lot like the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:08
In the Court of the Crimson King. in fact i used to hate King Crimson and now they're in my top 10.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:14
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currently: Opeth - Ghost Reveries normally, any prog album needs a few listens to "sink in" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:16
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Camel - Camel Pain Of Salvation - Be, The Perfect Element Porcupine Tree - In Absentia The first times I listened to them I think there are OK albums, months later give them a second chance and now I think there are masterpieces or near-masterpieces. ------------- We were always be much human than we whish to be. |
Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: September 19 2005 at 19:21
This "Growing albums" is one of the reasons why I think is really necesary the oportunity of change the albums votes. Sometimes you think a record it's a 3 stars album, time after you realize that it's a 4 stars or even a masterpiece, but Ooops, you voted in the past and cannot change it.  ------------- We were always be much human than we whish to be. |
Posted By: anotherbrick
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 00:23
| For me, a lot of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway had to grow on me. It is now my favorite Genesis album of all time, but before I thought it was just good, with a few good songs on it. |
Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:22
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[QUOTE=CrazyDiamond] For me is:
My avatar is the cover of an album with a group called Ken's Novel. Beautiful music, neo-prog I guess... ------------- A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!! |
Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:25
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I've heard so much about IQ-The Wake, but I can't seem to get it....
It's been compared to Marillion's "Misplaced Childhood" a lot. Any chance this album will "grow"??? ------------- A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!! |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:27
| Ayreon's Into the Electric Castle and Marillion's Brave. |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 04:43
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Drama and Yesshows by Yes ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 05:15
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Going for the One - Yes Didn't like at all at first. Looking back I dont even know why! It's my second favourite Yes album, now and in my top 10 albums of all time! Shadowlands - Glass Hammer I was put off at first by the production, and what a 'rip off' I thought it was of 70's English prog. Now I love it. I dont care how derivative it is, the songs are brilliantly constructed and full of memorable melodies and rich harmonies. The Seventh House - IQ I actually thought this was too bland and poppy when I first heard it ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
I listen to it a couple of times, but I think I was just switched off to most neo prog. Then I heard a saxophone and that was it. I didn't want to know! Now I think it's their best ever! Posted By: Perrin
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 05:48
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"Acquiring the taste" Gentle Giant "Pictures at an exhibition" ELP "Rock Bottom" WYATT "In the land of grey and pink" CARAVAN
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:22
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Yes, can think of two examples of this.... Eloy: Oceans....believe it or not, a friend did me a tape about 8 years ago, and I couldn't get into it, or past the vocals, so I threw it. I've rediscovered them this year, because I worked backwards from Metromania, Performance and so on. Now I don't know what the problem was. Porcupine Tree: Signify....I really struggled with this one several years ago as it nearly sent me into a Coma. I don't think it will ever be a favourite, but now I have worked my way backwards from Deadwing, and once again, given the band time, I can appreciate it more. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:23
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Mahavishnu orchestra - Birds of fire Yes - Tales from a topografic ocean |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:25
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Yes, it should...if you want to persevere with 'The Wake', I suggest you listen to it side by side with 'Tales From The Lush Attic', Peter Nicholls other album from his first spell with IQ, which has a couple of longies on... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
moonlitbay wrote:
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:29
GFTO: Very similar experience to me, although I could just take it or leave it at first. Shadowlands: Not heard this one, but I was in two minds about Lex Rex, so I decided to go with Chronomotree, which has now left me in three minds... The Seventh House: Loved it from the start, as I saw them in concert supporting the album (inc a brilliant version of erosion) although I've always been slightly put of by the saxophone! ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 06:57
I always felt that saxophones in prog are a no go area, UNLESS they are used in an imaginitive and/or suitable way. David Jackson of VDGG, for example is a prog sax master, KC's use of sax is good, as is Hawkwinds (albeit very badly played But soulfull, or poppy sax in prog is not appropriate IMO.. Despite this, the IQ songs where it's used are very strong songs, and this compensates for the sax. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 07:18
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ah i thought the the title said growlin albums...hmm im outa here ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 12:59
Then you might want to leave it a while before you write the review.  ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 13:09
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Gentle Giant - Octopus
Genesis - The Lamb Lies down on Broadway. The first time I listened to the whole thing I was pretty disappointed but when I bought the lp two years later I was spellbound and it became my favourite Genesis album along with Nursery Cryme |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:08
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Happened to me with Jethro Tull - TAAB, had the album for a good while but only recently discovered its brilliance! Mahavishnu Orchestra - inner Mounting Flame also took a while to fully appreciate, but now its one of my favourite albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: Crimsoner
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:29
and... the list would be infinite...
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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:30
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I've said it once before. When I got King crimson's "Staless & bible black" I was very dissapointed. After few listens I just left it. And I was a crimson lover then (and now). After 20 years (no mistake - twenty years) I said to myself let's check it again and fell in love with it immediately. I think this is kind of a world record (not a very positive one though). I agree with the claim every complex album needs time and for me it took a while with Yess' "Close to the edge" and "Fragile" which I realy love now. I strongly support Sigod that one should review an album only after he felt he knows and understands the album very well. ------------- omri |
Posted By: Prog Music
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:47
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Henry Cow - Unrest Faust - Faust IV Can - Tago Mago Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn I like them all a bunch now. |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:47
------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: DEzerov
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:54
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King Crimson - Islands (still hasn't quite grown on me yet...) Henry Cow - Western Culture (still hasn't quite grown on me yet either...) Univers Zero - 1313 Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence ------------- The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol |
Posted By: nimrodel
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 14:57
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Yes - Tales from a topografic ocean, and still i dont quite "get" the second disk.. ------------- We want... a shrubbery! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 15:09
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SB- Snow First one that i can think of ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 15:15
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JADE WARRIOR "Released" When I first listened this ten years ago, I was interested about YES and GENESIS. The jazz, etnhic and rock elements of this were too confusing to me then, but now it feels like totally great album. A true five-starer!
That pic is fun! |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 15:26
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For me it was Nursery Cryme. I thought it was decent with a few standout
tracks when I first got it. Now I love it. I can't even believe I didn't think it was a masterpiece at first. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Henry McLean
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 15:34
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Pawn Hearts. I hated it. Great was my ignorance. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 20 2005 at 15:44
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 13:40
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patrick moraz - timecode my appreciation raised by about 2 stars, certainly my highest ranking difference for an album. however, timecode is still a very ordinary album: i would say 50% is good and 50% is bad ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Don_Frog
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 16:45
| Much of Pink Floyd. I was a kid when a lot of their stuff came out and just didn't like it, but can really get into it now. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 16:48
This:  To all those who started to grow on PoS 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 21:02
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a Van der Graaf Generator recompilaion...its not about the album, but about the band...cant believe I didnt liked it for about 7 or 8 mounths Now...GENIUS!!! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 21:32
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Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Jethro Tull - Aqualung Genesis - Lamb Lies Down The Church - Heyday Beatles - The White Album Yes - Going For The One All these were loaned to me in high school by an older friend of mine, all of which I listened to once and said "meh" (at the time, I was subsisting on a steady diet of Rush, Van Halen, BOC, Ozzy, etc...). He just smiled and said, "Ahh, you'll get around to these sooner or later". Man, he was right. Over the next few years I got really into these, and now all are easy picks for my top 100 list. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 22:00
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Frances The Mute (The Mars Volta): It took me a while to appreciate it, but now I love it. Selling England By The Pound (Genesis): It was one of the first albums I had ever bought when I first got into progressive rock. I didn't really think it was all that great for a while, but as I listened to it more and more, I have grown to find it a fascinating album. I've found that most of the best albums take a while to "get," IMHO. Tales From Topographic Oceans (Yes): I probably didn't like it at first due to the fact it's Tales From Topographic Oceans- I mean, come on! But now it's one of my all-time favourites.
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Posted By: MarkCsigs
Date Posted: September 21 2005 at 22:34
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Most recently ... World Record from VdGG. I bought it at the same time as Still Life and Godbluff and it just didn't compare, so I thought it was crap. Couldn't listen to it for months. But dusted it off recently and have been playing it quite a bit. Overall ... I would say Gentle Giant. I tried to get into them as a teen, but it literally took me years to "get it". ------------- I repeat myself when under stress. |
Posted By: BigHairyMonster
Date Posted: September 22 2005 at 01:27
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There are a couple that took a while for me to come around to, but Soft Machine's Third took over a year to appreciate...I wouldn't quite call it a masterpiece though. My most recent "Grower" has been Strands Of The Future by Pulsar...a great album! One recent purchase, the self-titled Et Cetera album has left me underwhelmed so far...I guess I'll have to keep plugging away for awhile longer, but at this point I think it is a dud. ------------- Big Hairy Monster's debut CD "View" coming soon! www.bighairymonster.com |