Nursery Cryme vs Foxtrot
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Topic: Nursery Cryme vs Foxtrot
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Subject: Nursery Cryme vs Foxtrot
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 12:38
I know, right? vs  Foxtrot all the way for me.
------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 12:52
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Nursery Cryme, my favourite Genesis album. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 12:54
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Foxtrot ...by a whisker. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 13:31
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dance, dance, dance ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 13:37
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love both Foxtrot ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 13:58
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It can be a cryme to do the foxtrot while in a nursery; it may put the babes at risk of being stepped on. Nursery Cryme for me. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 14:17
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Foxtrot ------------- |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 14:45
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Foxtrot ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 14:51
| Cryme !!! |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 16:15
the one with the 26 minutes of one of the greatest prog songs ever written.
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Posted By: maryes
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 16:19
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Two fantastic albums but... Foxtrot !!! |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 16:24
| It's Nursery Cryme for me. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 16:43
| I'm voting for Foxtrot but this is really hard. I feel like I'm cheating on "The Musical Box." |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 16:58
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Foxtrot is it. Although I love Nursery Cryme almost to the same extent. NC, Foxtrot and SEBTP are the peak of Genesis progressiveness and it's very hard for me to choose among them. But Foxtrot LP was my first one from Genesis back in the '82 or '83 and it has special place in my heart. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 17:01
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Foxtrot. But for Can-Utility, not Supper's Ready. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 17:17
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Love every song on Nursery Cryme and never really warmed up to side one of Foxtrot |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 17:21
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I consider Nursery Crime overrated, so... Foxtrot. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 18:17
| Foxtrot. Easy choice. Second best from Genesis after SEbtP |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 18:18
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Nursery Cryme is great, but always feels like a tad undercooked Genesis. It's almost there. They hit a unique apex with Foxtrot that even SEBTP doesn't touch for me.
------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 18:18
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I'll take bullet in the head for a thousand Alex.. castration isn't my thing... I do honestly feel sorry for people who enjoy either... you are some sick f**ks... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 18:32
| I simply cannot choose. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 19:02
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Foxtrot, just, both great albums. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 19:20
| Both great but voted for Nursery Cryme. For one thing I just wanted to shake things up a bit and also despite the fact that NC get's a lot of flack for being badly produced(or having a thin sound)it still seems more consistent to me than Foxtrot. Foxtrot has time table which is nice but not that great and get em out by friday which I like even less. The only thing that puts me off a little on NC is "Harold the Barrel." The rest is pretty stellar. Still, I think both albums are very good. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 19:56
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Fox and tress are B+ or A- albums. Nursery is a C album. Harold, Seven and Harl are just ok at best. Musical box is a 7 minute track with an average verse and chorus ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 19:57
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Nursery Cryme. I appreciate Micky's sympathy. ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 19 2019 at 21:27
| Foxtrot, just because of Supper's Ready. |
Posted By: thief
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 00:25
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Foxtrot. Both albums are terrific works of unmatched atmosphere, but Foxtrot is more polished and advanced, I think. And ten minutes longer! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 00:39
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micky wrote:Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 01:10
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Foxtrot. Easy choice. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 01:27
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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 06:16
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Nursery Cryme has its own magic...but Foxtrot has Supper's Ready. Enough said? ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 06:55
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Foxtrot, because reasons . . . ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Oganesson
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 07:28
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Foxtrot, purely by virtue of "Supper's Ready" ------------- "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." - Dan Quayle Reach out as forward tastes begin to enter you... |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 07:48
| NC. Supper's Ready never held my attention for its entire duration. |
Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 09:34
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Foxtrot #2 Nursery Cryme #4 on my all-time top 4500 There is something about those initial listens that stick with you through the years. Although SEBtP may be a better album, these are my favorites.
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Posted By: socrates17
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 18:03
| I pondered, weak and weary, and then voted for Foxtrot. This one was easier than I'd expected. Love Nursery Cryme, but there's no doubt in my mind about my vote. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 20 2019 at 18:40
Just out of curiosity, what's #2452 on your list?  ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 10:54
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Imagine if the two were a double album. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 11:30
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They were for me! After hearing Trick of the Tail at a friends house, I went to the local Music Plus and found "The Best..." in the cutout bin. It had both albums as a fold-out double record!
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 11:32
Hmmm... That might take me awhile.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 18:17
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Foxtrot wins, especially because of Supper's Ready. Supper's Ready wins, especially for the lines: "Six six six is no longer alone; he's getting out the marrow in your backbone; the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll; gonna blow right down inside your soul; Pythagorus with the looking glass reflects the full moon; in blood he's writing the lyrics of a brand new tune..." ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Kempokid
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 18:28
| Even if Foxtrot didn't include Supper's Ready, I'd still find it quite a close call, as the first side of Foxtrot is still downright amazing, showing Genesis at some of their most mature, where I felt that Nursery Cryme could feel slightly underdeveloped at a couple of points. Supper's Ready however puts Foxtrot much higher for me, so I'll go for that. |
Posted By: Walkscore
Date Posted: February 21 2019 at 21:27
| Return of the Giant Hogweed and Fountain of Salmacis are excellent, but the rest of Nursery Crime - while great - is not quite as good as the main tracks on Foxtrot in my opinion. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 22 2019 at 02:10
Agreed,. Supper's Ready just puts it over the top. The album is absolutely perfect. Top tier progressive rock of the highest caliber, and still more perfect than SEBTP for me personally.
I'm glad someone else agrees; I almost got roasted a year or so ago claiming it sounded like someone flipped on "ON" switch on Salmacis (I.E. when Genesis finally "clicked" with their epicness). Fantastic album, but it feels, as you said, underdeveloped relative to what came next. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 22 2019 at 02:38
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Oh I much prefer a touch of pastoral romaticism than "gritty" social-commentary/future dystopia in my "symphonic rock". I'll rather Zeuhl/RIO take care of the latter. What some call "mature" comes across as not very original or impressive observations to me. I'd take mellotron-washes, amateur oboe & flute, hermaphrodites, Old King Cole and Fang Son of Great Fang over the harsh barks about directors of Genetic Control in New Harlow Town any day. |
Posted By: Midori
Date Posted: February 22 2019 at 09:54
| Damn this is a hard one. "Supper's Ready" alone makes Foxtrot an essential own, but I find Nursery Cryme to be far more consistent. Ultimately I'm probably going to have to with Foxtrot because the great tracks make up for "Can-Utility and the Coastliners". |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: February 22 2019 at 13:02
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Nursery Cryme is my favorite Genesis album. So it's my pick. |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: February 26 2019 at 14:38
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The Lamb, Nursery and Foxtrot are the holy trinity of Genesis output. I'll vote for NC because The Musical Box, Hogweed and Salmacis are evenly spaced and it makes for a more consistent album. But it's really close...Supper's Ready is their best song by far. ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: CristauxFeur
Date Posted: February 26 2019 at 14:43
| Foxtrot by a finger because of the legendary Supper's Ready |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: February 26 2019 at 18:41
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The new line-up with Nursery Cryme were practicing in order to get to Foxtrot. Brilliant stuff! ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 26 2019 at 21:26
For me it's Nursery, Foxtrot, and Selling England. I feel they were already going into a different direction (which I don't enjoy as much) with The Lamb. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 27 2019 at 02:11
That's quite literally what Nursery Cryme sounds like to me (not a bad thing at all, btw). I've always made the joke that Genesis "turned itself ON" during Salmacis, lol. It's like a Disney movie; you can FEEL the magic! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 27 2019 at 08:40
| Both!!! (I voted for Foxtrot...) |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: February 27 2019 at 08:47
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No way to make up a choice. It's like having to choose between ma and pa. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 16 2019 at 06:44
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