From Sience to Somewhere vs Hybris
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Topic: From Sience to Somewhere vs Hybris
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Subject: From Sience to Somewhere vs Hybris
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 06:23
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Two very significant modern prog albums. But I definitely gotta vote for Wobbler. There are 3 main reasons. 1: the vocals are 100x better on FSTS, I’d say the vocals on Hybris are borderline poor 2: The song structure is a lot better on FSTS. The songs all naturally flow while on Hybris I feel like they just go from one idea to another 3: better melodies and better production. Hybris is certainly very influential, I’d argue I get Anglagard vibes every now and then on FSTS, but overall I’d say it’s stronger |
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 06:56
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love both but Hybris for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 07:28
| Hybris is modern? |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 08:48
I consider modern prog to be 90s forward, not that modern anymore I suppose |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 09:05
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Hybris all the way. ------------- |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 09:42
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Going with Wobbler . . . ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 11:52
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Really tough choice between two outstanding albums. I'm not sure I'd say FSTS vocals are good enough to give them an obvious not in that department. Regarding melodies, FSTS is definitely more melodic, but hooky melodies don't make the better song for me. In the end, I just find Hybris more musically interesting. It flows quite well for me and I can really keep my teeth sunk into it from start to finish.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 13:33
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Hybris ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 14:07
"Modern" can seem/ be a very arbitrary term, sometimes it means very recent, sometimes it just means post-ancient, and how ancient is ancient? Modern "Art Music" is often considered to be from 1900 up. I took a "modern history" course which started with the Renaissance. I would also tend to use modern prog to prefer to post-80s music, as I see that as being something of a modern era of Prog, but it would depend on the context. Classic Prog for me tends to refer to the late 60s through the mid to late 70s. Anyway, it's a relative term, and it depends on what one is comparing it to. The OED's first description in one version is "Relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past." How recent is recent, and how remote is the remote past? It's relative, but according to one site, the remote past, or at least remote past tense, refers to a time considered more than a few days ago.. In the remote past, which was at least six days ago and certainly sometime after the birth of our universe, which was 13.772 billion years ago, or about 6000 years ago according to some Creationists, I ate a sandwich. It was quite good, if a little dry. I think of thirteen years ago as pretty recent (modern times to me), but for my 12 year old son, that's more than a lifetime ago. I can seem to remember more vividly some events in my life from the 70s than events from yesterday, but those were more memorable, and those memories have been reconstructed many times over the years. But I digress. No vote, I have only properly listened to Hybris (last listened to it over a decade ago and while I used to love it, I went off it). I did play much of that Wobbler streaming, but despite enjoying some elements, it didn't really work for me. I'm not much of a Symphonic Prog fan to begin with, and there are very few post-classic era bands included in Symphonic Prog that I have heard and enjoyed. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 14:11
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Wobbler. ------------- 
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 14:57
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Wobbler......... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 16:38
| Hybris, easily, one of my favourite prog albums after the 70's... and even including the 70's. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 10 2019 at 17:12
I second that.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 11 2019 at 00:42
| Hybris definitely. Maybe A Drop of Light v Hybris might be interesting as I'm not sure which way I would go on that. BTW Par Lindh Project's first 3 albums are better than anything Wobbler have ever done imo. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: September 11 2019 at 02:17
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Wobbler. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: September 12 2019 at 09:30
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Wobbler by far. The vocals on Hybris? Yuck!!! So glad they went instrumental after the debut.
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 12 2019 at 10:44
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From Silence to Somewhere - Wobbler ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: September 12 2019 at 15:57
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Wobbler |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 00:19
I did wonder if the vocals on Hybris are a problem for some. I really like them and adds another dimension for me. Viljans Oga was just very average and showed zero progression in all that time imo.
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 00:57
| Love both albums. Hybris was more groundbreaking when it came out, it went against the tide of the moment, but overall I prefer FSTS. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 08:03
I really love Viljans Oga. Did it move the needle or progress the band passed their first two releases? Probably not but Wobbler is hardly reinventing the wheel here either. (I love both bands so much!)
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 08:57
| I feel like Hybris has a lot of great stuff, but the songs just feel like moving from one idea to another. Wobbler actually has the songs. Some of the slower parts of Hybris like on kung bore bring it down. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 10:55
| Is it possible that some people are voting for Wobbler who haven't even heard the Anglagard album? It sure seems that way to me. Aside from Yes, Genesis, KC etc I can't see any younger band beating them but maybe I've been living under a rock. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 13:13
| I thought Hybris was supposed to be a legendary album capable to standing proudly among the greats of the 70's. I can't imagine Wobbler achieving that (as much as I like their album). |
Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 15:17
After a dozen spins, I haven't been able to like "From Silence to Somewhere". Believe me, I have tried but the album puts me to sleep half the time. The other half I am simply too bored to care about it 
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: September 13 2019 at 17:11
It could be the other way around too. I personally think Wobbler is better but I think it’s a fair matchup |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 00:43
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As suggested I think a lot of people are voting for Wobbler but don't really know Hybris although I appreciate the comments of those that have justified their position and all opinions are valid of course. Hybris will always be a special album for me and it provides a gateway to a mystical (mythical even?) Scandinavian world that has been much explored in modern TV shows. Wobbler are just incredibly well executed retro prog but nothing 'special' imho.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 01:43
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This isn't even a match-up (or shouldn't, despite the weird results) Without Hybris  , no Wobbler (or Sinkadus FTM), that's for sure.... And I really don't see what the hoopla is about them and that album precisely (got rid of it) BTW, I happen to think the vocals in Hybris (I've even had them translated and stuck them in the booklet) are what makes it better than Epilog or Ogans. |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 02:22
I don't have a problem with the vocals, though I don't understand the language.
Viljans Oga took a few listens for me to appreciate. But after many more listens, I realised that I like it better than Hybris. However, I've so far not been able to get into Epilog. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 05:46
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Anglagard are musically excellent but it's just too close to classical for me. I need more electric guitar. Wobbler gets the nod on this one ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 16:22
| I think a more interesting match up(and possibly more fair)would be All Traps on Earth vs Wobbler. If that has been done before then I haven't seen it. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 22:24
Yeah that one happened recently, think wobbler won 20-1 |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 14 2019 at 22:32
It looks like it was done as Norway vs Sweden. Not quite the slaughter you said but close. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120533" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120533
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 15 2019 at 01:22
completely missed that one. I have now voted to make it a tiny bit closer at least!
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 15 2019 at 06:54
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All Traps on Earth clearly over both of these... can't decide here, not an all too big fan of either. All good music though, I mean if any of this would be played at a random pub, I'd be delighted. |
Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: September 15 2019 at 07:22
Must have misremembered |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 15 2019 at 18:47
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Wobbler because of Foxlight. ------------- 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 16 2019 at 14:12
| Hybris easily and I'm quite surprised by Wobbler winning here by a lot. I expected a closer poll. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 09:52
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From Sience To Somewhere ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 12:23
| Hybrid by a hair. |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: April 14 2020 at 13:21
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Hybris +1 ------------- 
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