First and last Genesis albums
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Topic: First and last Genesis albums
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: First and last Genesis albums
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 10:41
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 11:13
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Probably Genesis' worst two albums. I like neither. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 11:23
I love Genesis' first album, but I found their last album disappointing and it didn't even sound like Genesis to me, so it was an easy choice for me in this poll. 
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Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 12:44
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Without doubt "From Genesis to Revelation" Without any comparison to what Genesis was about to become, I think it is a nice collection of songs. ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 13:45
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Ugh. I guess their debut, but it's really a hard pass for both. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 13:49
That's why I have neither as an option.
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Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:01
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I actually like their first album. I mean they don't really have any bad albums to me(it's Genesis), but the last two studio albums are clearly the weakest two imo. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:34
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Calling All Stations. Neither of those two albums should be released under the Genesis moniker (in fact FG2R was not), but CAS was the better album. Not quite Genesis: the vocals sound too unfamiliar for a long time Genesis fan. Nevertheless Ray is a good singer. ------------- 
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:37
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First album is okay for its time and the inexperience of the band. Last album is terrible for its time and the experience of the band. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:51
What name was it released under then?
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 15:58
"From Genesis To Revelation" was released under the band name "Revelation" in the United States to prevent confusion, because there was already a band with the name "Genesis" in the USA at the time.
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Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 16:14
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Ray Wilson has an amazing voice. They should have made another album with him, and should have returned to Prog. The genre was on the upswing at the time, and I think it would have led to greater things. ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 16:27
Yes, I know about that other Genesis band. I listened to some of their album on youtube. It's actually more progressive than the FGTR album.
It might sound like regular psych to most peopole but long songs with long instrumental jams. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 16:28
It actually has a bit of a neo prog vibe to it imo.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 17:46
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Neither. Never. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 18:02
I couldn't say it better.
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 21:52
| Both suck |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 12 2019 at 21:59
But for different reasons right?
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 01:50
QFT. I chose neither. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 02:04
As they could not know that was to happen later, what you are saying is that they should have changes name from Genesis to Trespass ? in 1970 ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 02:08
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the debut I do like a few songs on Calling All Stations.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 02:47
| Neither |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 06:02
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The first is one of the few Genesis things that I quite like. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 08:29
| for me Genesis didn't start to soar and become one of the best bands in the world until Steve and Phil came along---and CAS was a huge ego move on the part of Tony and Mike on so many levels---their commercial success and money came from Phil---the logical thing for them to do was bring back Steve and turn away from pop music---and make an interesting album but Mike in particular really likes popular success--still I'd vote for CAS even though it rarely is interesting for me. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 10:08
| There seems to be a bit of bashing over these albums. As lame as they might be they are still better than the Fugitive by Tony Banks and Acting Very Strange by Mike Rutherford. I'm sure some will disagree with that but if any albums that are Genesis related flat out suck it's those two. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 11:04
As far as I knew, it was released as an album by a nameless band. There was a USA-based band named Genesis at the time indeed, but the name problem was solved when the American Genesis disbanded soon after. -------------
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 11:26
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This poll is like the scene in Blood Diamond where the goon squad comes to the village to collect slave labor and the enforcer with the axe asks the guy with his arm forcibly extended, "Long sleeve?, or short sleeve?". ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 13 2019 at 14:16
| Neither! Both albums are not very good, even though there are a few good songs on both. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 01:07
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FGTR. CAS is rubbish. I also don't regard it as a Genesis album. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 01:18
Me neither. I've listened to "Calling All Stations" and it doesn't even sound like Genesis to me. It's a very disappointing final album.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 01:28
Someone on PA suggested recently that Frank Dunnery of It Bites would have made a good replacement for Collins on vocals. That would have been an interesting project, and if they had also stuck Chester Thompson on drums, I would have been more supportive of calling it a Genesis project. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 14 2019 at 19:19
| I actually would like to hear an album that was recorded in between FGTR and Trespass. It could have been recorded in October of 1969. Then the next day the band all heard In the Court of the Crimson King for the first time. Lol. To me that would be very interesting. I know that no such recording exists but that would be really cool if it did. I know there were some demos of stuff that was never released and early demo versions of some stuff that was recorded around February of 1970 so I guess that's something. |