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Topic: Top 7 Caravan Albums
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Top 7 Caravan Albums
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 08:18
Even a Blind Dog at St. Dunstans could see that Caravan reigns supreme in the Canterbury Scene, where the one-eyed man is king In the Land of Pink and Grey. If I Could Do It All Over Again I would have bought Caravan's  albums back in the 1970's when they were first released, instead of buying them Back to Front starting with the cunningly titled Cunning Stunts album in 2010. This classic album is Better by Far for me than the overrated Waterloo Lily album, but that's just my opinion. I'm going to take a pregnant pause now to consider how Caravan came up with The Album title, For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night.Smile
 
 
 
Here's your chance to help determine the Top 7 Caravan albums of all time. Simply list your Top 7 Caravan albums in order of preference and then I'll assign the usual system of points to your listings:-
 
1st album - 12 points
2nd album - 8 points
3rd album - 6 points
4th album - 4 points
5th album - 3 points
6th album - 2 points
7th album - 1 point
 
Here's my Top 7 to kick off with:-
 
1. In the Land of Pink and Grey (12 points)
2. Cunning Stunts (8 points)
3. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (6 points)
4. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (4 points)
5. Caravan (3 points)
6. Better by Far (2 points)
7. The Battle of Hastings (1 point)
 
Caravan's Discography
 
 4 stars 1968: Caravan - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvQAAWpar7ljgL2p-CPuqdG" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvQAAWpar7ljgL2p-CPuqdG
 4 stars 1970: If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R
 5 stars 1971: In the Land of Pink and Grey - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvsF8fnd5IFaqvwNUGPObK" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvsF8fnd5IFaqvwNUGPObK
 3 stars 1972: Waterloo Lily - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsOng1dEWl9YfLB9YU3TkUq" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsOng1dEWl9YfLB9YU3TkUq
 4 stars 1973: For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt0FuNvUESL3n07pAc4QxoA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt0FuNvUESL3n07pAc4QxoA
 4 stars 1974: Caravan and the New Symphonia - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsEzP-B6i809C-GjZxNi_6g" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsEzP-B6i809C-GjZxNi_6g
 4 stars 1974: Live at the Fairfield Halls - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lv-fS99f25caecobqPW6dS8" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lv-fS99f25caecobqPW6dS8
 4 stars 1975: Cunning Stunts - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls4dlIIyu6g5CNS_Lt6ZwL" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls4dlIIyu6g5CNS_Lt6ZwL _
 3 stars 1976: Blind Dog at St. Dunstans - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt6DhC2Iqme_yI0pKUmdzHM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt6DhC2Iqme_yI0pKUmdzHM
 4 stars 1977: Better by Far - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lvg4B6gjA1zZ0kmuqJDBYH0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lvg4B6gjA1zZ0kmuqJDBYH0
 3 stars 1980: The Album - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvfYmkSHxWkALUgvUyI5Bch" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvfYmkSHxWkALUgvUyI5Bch
 3 stars 1982: Back to Front - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsMqwf4PO-3DxACLwo6hlsL" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsMqwf4PO-3DxACLwo6hlsL
 4 stars 1990: Live in Nottingham - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LszcBqvQaOmkdDiMqd95J-x" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LszcBqvQaOmkdDiMqd95J-x
 3 stars 1978/1994: Cool Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luxcpn_zIyUqko2wVeWJCDI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luxcpn_zIyUqko2wVeWJCDI
 4 stars 1995: The Battle of Hastings - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZJXSlBnHZ3UFFoTqDlObT" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZJXSlBnHZ3UFFoTqDlObT
 4 stars 2003: The Unauthorised Breakfast Item - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtSTGHVqGWiGO9ge-Ofd68c" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtSTGHVqGWiGO9ge-Ofd68c
 4 stars 2013: Paradise Filter - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuAftE1dDHIs1LlYSGQWgaC" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuAftE1dDHIs1LlYSGQWgaC



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Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 08:31
One of the most under-rated bands ever!!

1. In the Land of Pink and Grey (12 points)
2. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (8 points)
3. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (6 points)
4. Cunning Stunts (4 points)
5. Waterloo Lily (3 points)
6. Caravan (2 points)
7. Back to Front (1 point)


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 12:23
I can't go beyond five albums...

1. If i could
2. In the Land
3. Caravan - first LP
4. Waterloo lily
5. For girls

but really for me only the four first ones are really worth IMO, and the three first ones are the masterpieces


Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 12:27
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


Even a Blind Dog at St. Dunstans could see that Caravan reigns supreme in the Canterbury Scene, where the one-eyed man is king In the Land of Pink and Grey. If I Could Do It All Over Again I would have bought Caravan's  albums back in the 1970's when they were first released, instead of buying them Back to Front starting with the cunningly titled Cunning Stunts album in 2010. This classic album is Better by Far for me than the overrated Waterloo Lily album, but that's just my opinion. I'm going to take a pregnant pause now to consider how Caravan came up with The Album title, For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night.Smile
 
 
 
Here's your chance to help determine the Top 7 Caravan albums of all time. Simply list your Top 7 Caravan albums in order of preference and then I'll assign the usual system of points to your listings:-
 
1st album - 12 points
2nd album - 8 points
3rd album - 6 points
4th album - 4 points
5th album - 3 points
6th album - 2 points
7th album - 1 point
 
Here's my Top 7 to kick off with:-
 
1. In the Land of Pink and Grey (12 points)
2. Cunning Stunts (8 points)
3. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (6 points)
4. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (4 points)
5. Caravan (3 points)
6. Better by Far (2 points)
7. The Battle of Hastings (1 point)
 
Caravan's studio albums
 
 4 stars Caravan (1968)
 4 stars If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (1970)
 5 stars In the Land of Pink and Grey (1971)
 3 stars Waterloo Lily (1972)
 4 stars For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (1973)
 4 stars Cunning Stunts (1975)
 3 stars Blind Dog at St. Dunstans (1976)
 4 stars Better by Far (1977)
 3 starsThe Album (1980)
 3 stars Back to Front (1982)
 3 stars Cool Water (1978/1994)
 4 stars The Battle of Hastings (1995)
 4 stars The Unauthorised Breakfast Item (2003)
 4 stars Paradise Filter (2013)













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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 12:31
Hi,

My choices are very different ... the one album that I come back to the most of all is "For Girls..." and then "Caravan and the New Sinfonia", in my book one of the best orchestrated albums EVER done.

For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
Caravan and the New Sinfonia
Cunning Stunts
Better by Far
Blind Dog at St. Dunstans

The early stuff is nice, and hearing the original "For Richard" is nice, but not as nice as what they did with it later. The later albums I have not gotten as yet, and can't really comment, but listening to their first two albums is ... kind of a trip to the era of pop music in England.


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 12:55
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

I can't go beyond five albums...

1. If i could
2. In the Land
3. Caravan - first LP
4. Waterloo lily
5. For girls

but really for me only the four first ones are really worth IMO, and the three first ones are the masterpieces
The last three Caravan albums are very good too, if you haven't already heard them. Thumbs Up


Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 14:02
It's going to be just five for me as well, Paul!

1. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
2. In the Land of Grey and Pink
3. If I Could Do It All Over Again...
4. Waterloo Lily
5. Caravan


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 14:20
Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

It's going to be just five for me as well, Paul!

1. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
2. In the Land of Grey and Pink
3. If I Could Do It All Over Again...
4. Waterloo Lily
5. Caravan
That's okay. I would have struggled to choose seven albums too, until I listened to all of Caravan's albums last weekend. If I Could Do It All Over Again though, I would have listened to all of Caravan's albums years ago. Smile


Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 15:06
1. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You 
2. In the Land of Pink and Grey 
3. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night 
4. Caravan
5. Waterloo Lily 


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 16:11
1. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
2. In the Land of Grey and Pink
3. Waterloo Lily
4. If I Could Do it all...
5. Caravan
6. Blind Dog at St Dunstans
7. Cunning Stunts

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 16:42
1. Grey & Pink
2. Debut
3. For Girls
4. If I could
5. Waterloo
6. Stunning Cµnts
7. New Symphonia (il counted as a live album, then)

7. bis Blind Dog




Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 16:46
Welp, I admit, i've only heard Grey and Pink (top 5 album for me), If I could Do it All Over Again and For Girls Who Grow.... all great, Waterloo Lily tonight!

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 17:10
In The Land
If I Could
For Girls

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 18:51
1. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night
2. In the Land of Grey and Pink
3. Cunning Stunts
4. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You
5. Caravan
6. Waterloo Lily
7. Blind Dog at St Dunstans


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 27 2020 at 18:58
I really only listen to the first 5....but...

1. In The Land Of...
2. If I Could...
3. Girls Who Grow...
4. Waterloo Lilly
5. Caravan
6. Blind Dog
7. Cunning Stunts


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 04:42
This is how the Top 7 is shaping up so far after the first dozen rounds of voting:-
 
1. In the Land of Grey & Pink (112 points)
2. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (93 points)
3. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (74 points)
4. Caravan (38 points)
5. Cunning Stunts (36 points)
6. Waterloo Lily (29 points)
7. Caravan & the New Symphonia (9 points)
 
8. Blind Dog at St. Dunstans (8 points)
8. Better by Far (8 points)


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 09:53
Forgot the new Symphonia, nice indeed


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 28 2020 at 10:18
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Forgot the new Symphonia, nice indeed
 
I've just added The New Symphonia album to the list at the top of the page. Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 30 2020 at 16:12
Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:



Mine are the same as yours


Awesome post
 
Thanks! It's very rare for anyone to actually agree with my album listings, and at least it'll save you writing out a list. Smile


Posted By: Earl of Mar
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 11:28
I only own 5 but love the band. Do here you are.

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Caravan
Cunning


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 12:27
Top 7 update with Earl of Mar's votes added:-
 
1. In the Land of Grey & Pink (124 points)
2. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (101 points)
3. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (80 points)
4. Caravan (42 points)
5. Cunning Stunts (39 points)
6. Waterloo Lily (29 points)
7. Caravan & the New Symphonia (9 points)
 
8. Blind Dog at St. Dunstans (8 points)
8. Better by Far (8 points)


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 13:27
Ok, mine (for what its worth) are

Land of Grey and Pink
If i could do it again
Girls who grow plums in the night
Cunning Stunts
New Symphonia
Waterloo Lily
Better by Far


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 14:05
Top 7 update with Cosmic Lawnmower Man's votes added:-
 
1. In the Land of Grey & Pink (136 points)
2. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (107 points)
3. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (88 points)
4. Cunning Stunts (43 points)
5. Caravan (42 points)
6. Waterloo Lily (31 points)
7. Caravan & the New Symphonia (12 points)
 
 
8. Better by Far (9 points)
9. Blind Dog at St. Dunstans (8 points)
 


Posted By: tigerfeet
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:36

1. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (1970)

2. In the Land of Grey & Pink (1971)

3. Blind Dog at St. Dunstans (1976)

4. Waterloo Lily (1972)

5. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (1973)

6. Cunning Stunts (1975)

7. Better by Far (1977)

I know they are not included as they are not officially new released tracks on a new studio album, I particularly like the compilation albums All Over You and All Over You Too. I normally dislike compilation albums but these 2 were different as they were well produced new versions of some of their earlier songs. 

If I had not been into Caravan I may have thought, wow! they are amazing! Caravan as a band in all their incarnations are in my top 10 any day of the week.



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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 12 2020 at 15:56
Top 7 update with TigerFeet's votes added:-
 
1. In the Land of Grey & Pink (144 points)
2. For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night (110 points)
3. If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You (100 points)
4. Cunning Stunts (45 points)
5. Caravan (42 points)
6. Waterloo Lily (35 points)
7. Blind Dog at St. Dunstans (14 points)
 
7. Caravan & the New Symphonia (12 points)
8. Better by Far (10 points)
 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 09:56
Caravan's Discography
 
 4 stars 1968: Caravan - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvQAAWpar7ljgL2p-CPuqdG" rel="nofollow -  1970: If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R" rel="nofollow -  1971: In the Land of Pink and Grey - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvsF8fnd5IFaqvwNUGPObK" rel="nofollow -  1972: Waterloo Lily - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsOng1dEWl9YfLB9YU3TkUq" rel="nofollow -  1973: For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt0FuNvUESL3n07pAc4QxoA" rel="nofollow -  1974: Caravan and the New Symphonia - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsEzP-B6i809C-GjZxNi_6g" rel="nofollow -  1974: Live at the Fairfield Halls - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lv-fS99f25caecobqPW6dS8" rel="nofollow -  1975: Cunning Stunts - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls4dlIIyu6g5CNS_Lt6ZwL" rel="nofollow -  1976: Blind Dog at St. Dunstans - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt6DhC2Iqme_yI0pKUmdzHM" rel="nofollow -  1977: Better by Far - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lvg4B6gjA1zZ0kmuqJDBYH0" rel="nofollow -  1980: The Album - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvfYmkSHxWkALUgvUyI5Bch" rel="nofollow -  1982: Back to Front - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsMqwf4PO-3DxACLwo6hlsL" rel="nofollow -  1990: Live in Nottingham - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LszcBqvQaOmkdDiMqd95J-x" rel="nofollow -  1978/1994: Cool Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luxcpn_zIyUqko2wVeWJCDI" rel="nofollow -  1995: The Battle of Hastings - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZJXSlBnHZ3UFFoTqDlObT" rel="nofollow -  2003: The Unauthorised Breakfast Item - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtSTGHVqGWiGO9ge-Ofd68c" rel="nofollow -  2013: Paradise Filter - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuAftE1dDHIs1LlYSGQWgaC" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 11:06
^ wait... why just 3 stars for Waterloo Lily?! Confused


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 11:35
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ wait... why just 3 stars for Waterloo Lily?! Confused
 
Simply because I don't like Waterloo Lily as much as their 4 & 5 star albums, but it's still a good album. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 11:38
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ wait... why just 3 stars for Waterloo Lily?! Confused
 
Simply because I don't like Waterloo Lily as much as their 4 & 5 star albums, but it's still a good album. Smile

You've rated their last 3 albums more. They don't come close to classic Caravan. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 12:09
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ wait... why just 3 stars for Waterloo Lily?! Confused
 
Simply because I don't like Waterloo Lily as much as their 4 & 5 star albums, but it's still a good album. Smile

You've rated their last 3 albums more. They don't come close to classic Caravan. 
It wouldn't be the first time I've rated recent albums higher than earlier classic albums, and it probably won't be the last time either. Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 12:11
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ wait... why just 3 stars for Waterloo Lily?! Confused
 
Simply because I don't like Waterloo Lily as much as their 4 & 5 star albums, but it's still a good album. Smile

You've rated their last 3 albums more. They don't come close to classic Caravan. 
It wouldn't be the first time I've rated recent albums higher than earlier classic albums, and it probably won't be the last time either. Smile

I saw that although TBH I do not understand. Geek


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 12:19
^ What is there to understand? I just happen to prefer Caravan's more recent albums to Waterloo Lily that's all. Smile 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 12:21
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ What is there to understand? I just happen to prefer Caravan's more recent albums to Waterloo Lily that's all. Smile 

exactly, I don't get it. LOL


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 09 2021 at 12:24
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ What is there to understand? I just happen to prefer Caravan's more recent albums to Waterloo Lily that's all. Smile 

exactly, I don't get it. LOL
At least I haven't been overly-generous with my ratings for Caravan - I only gave one album a 5-star rating, and on a positive note, Waterloo Lily is my favourite 3-star album. Smile



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