All PA categories top ranked trios of albums
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Topic: All PA categories top ranked trios of albums
Posted By: Logan
Subject: All PA categories top ranked trios of albums
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 01:02
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I have gone through the PA charts including the Prog Related and Proto-Prog charts and have listed the top three albums per category when only including one album by band (the top ranked album). If I just went with the top three then I would in various cases have more than one album, or even all three albums, by one band. I wanted more variety, so I then moved to the next highest ranked album by a different band when that happened. I ask you to choose an option representing a category and consider all three albums listed when voting. While I expect the Symph choices to get the most votes, it is not a contest. Here is the list that may be easier for some of you to refer to..
Crossover Prog: Supertramp - Crime of the Century / Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn / Steven Wilson - The Raven that Refused to Sing Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King / Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff / Gentle Giant - In a Glass House Experimental/Post Metal: Tool - Lateralus / Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second / Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape Heavy Prog: Rush - Moving Pictures / Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet / Haken - The Mountain Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Andre Fertier's Clivage - Mixtus Orbis / Shakti with John McLaughlin - Natural Elements / Codona - Codona 3 Jazz Rock/Fusion: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue / Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire / Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior Krautrock: Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra / Dom - Edge of Time / Ash Ra Tempel S/T Neo-Prog: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood / IQ - The Road of Bones / Arena - Contagion Post Rock/Math Rock: Bohren & der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission / Swans - Children of God / Magyar Posse - Random Avenger Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick / Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison / Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Picchu Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze Mirage / Tangerine Dream - Rubycon / Alio Die - Deconsecrated and Pure Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2 - Scenes from a Memory / Riverside - Second Life Syndrome / Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here / Eloy - Ocean / Hypnos 69 - Legacy RIO/Avant-Prog: Frank Zappa - Hot Rats / Art Zoyd - Häxan / Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea Rock Progressivo Italiano: Premiata Forneria Marconi (PFM) - Per un amico / Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (BdMS) - Darwin! / Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Symphonic Prog: Yes - Close to the Edge / Genesis - Selling England by the Pound / Camel - Mirage Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Gorguts - Obscura / Opeth - Still Life / Death - Symbolic Zeuhl: Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh (MDK) / Eskaton - 4 visions / Dün - Eros Various Genres/Artists: Jesus Christ Superstar / Odyssey - The Greatest Tale / La Biblia Prog Related: Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV / David Bowie - Blackstar / Queen - Queen II Proto-Prog: The Beatles - Abbey Road / The Who - Quadrophenia / Deep Purple - In Rock Ultimately for me it's between the Krautrock trio and the Zeuhl trio, and I will give it to Zeuhl. Also very much like the Canterbury Scene choices (most especially Rock Bottom and You), the RIO/ Avant Prog ones, the RPI choices, Clivage and Codona I particularly love from the Indo Prog/ Raga Rock album trio, and I so love Klaus Schulze's Mirage and like Rubycon very much (I have heard the Alio Die album but forgotten it). I love the bands in Eclectic, but none of those would be my album picks, and none would be in my top three albums of each band. I'd go Pawn Hearts, Lizard, and Acquiring the Taste. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 01:24
A predictable vote from me for the Symphonic Prog trio of Camel, Genesis & YES. 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 01:41
| A not predictable vote from me for the trio of Supertramp (although I very slightly prefer Breakfast In America), Oldfield and Wilson. All are 5 star albums in my book. (I didn't vote for Camel, Genesis and Yes mainly because SEBTP is hugely overrated in my book, but I am alone in that opinion I expect!) |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 02:56
| Heavy prog trio |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 03:40
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Yes, Genesis, Camel... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 03:51
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It's between these three... actually I think I placed them in th correct order. Canterbury Scene: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink / Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom / Gong - You Magma MDK / Eskaton 4 visions / Dün Eros Popol Vuh Hosianna Mantra/ Dom Edge of Time/Ash Ra Tempel ST Interestingly
jazz rock fusion has to be my all round favorite genre considering the
amount of albums in my collection. But to me, in this poll, on of the
least appealing trio of albums.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 04:00
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Tough choice. I'll have to get back to this. Also some great albums together with some I don't care for.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 04:18
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RPI ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 04:51
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Yes, Genesis, Camel. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 04:58
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Yes Close to the Edge/ Genesis Selling England/ Camel Mirage ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 05:40
"You're not, you're not, you're not alone!" Initially,
I thought I would go for the symph trio, but I'm not that an unconditional fan of SEBTP either. Most of these trios have at least one
album that I'm less fond of. The trio of albums that convince me most here are Eclectic prog, RIO/Avant-Prog and Prog Related... I'll go with the first of these three. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
richardh wrote:Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 05:53
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Interesting poll in that no trio of three satisfies completely--there's always one of each three that irks me. The trio that comes closest to evoking enthusiasm is the J/R Fusion one, followed by the Indo-Prog/Raga (this despite the fact that I don't believe Kind of Blue belongs here on PA). ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 06:10
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The RIO Trio. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 06:14
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Yes, Genesis, Camel, tied with Jethro Tull, Harmonium, Los Jaivas, and PFM, BDMS, MRZ. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 06:45
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This is brutal, how can I vote for a RIO Trio without Henry Cow or Univers Zero? How can I vote for Canterbury without Hatfield or National Health? Zeuhl, RPI & Krautrock all have 2 out of 3 for me so have personal gaps. Went with the very strong Eclectic Trio all personal favorites. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 07:06
Canterbury - I like the Wyatt and Gong, but have never been a great fan of that Caravan album. Crossover - None of these albums really does much for me, though I don’t dislike any of them. Eclectic - Three great bands, but apart from Krimson, these are not the albums I’d go for. Exp/Post - This is the leading contender so far, just edging out Eclectic. Heavy - Haken have never really appealed to me, and though I like the other two bands, these are not albums that I particularly like. Indo/Raga - I have not listened to any of these three albums. Jazz/Fusion - I like all three artists here, but apart from Mahavishnu, these aren’t the most appealing albums for me. Krautrock - And a similar situation here, although it’s more tempting, and a more likely contender for my vote. Neo - Just, no. Post/Math - Another tempting proposition, but not quite edging out Exp/Post which is still out in front for my vote. Folk - I’ve never really enjoyed that Harmonium album. Electronic - Another strong contender. Possibly beats Post/Math, and maybe even Exp/Post Prog Metal - Only the Riverside album is a particularly favourite of mine, though I do like all three bands. Not even close to being a contender. Psych/Space - I like all three of these albums, and WYWH is absolutely my favourite Floyd. But I still like other albums in other genres more. This would be one of the chasing pack, but it’s not out in front. RIO/Avant - Oh, it’s so good. I like them all - but like Ian, it’s not the selection I’d go for. It’s tempting, though. RPI - I like all three of these, too - but there are still albums I like far more in the other genres. So even though this is a 3 from 3, it isn’t as strong as some of the 2 from 3 genres. Symphonic - This is an easy no, because even though I like all three groups, and all three albums, only Mirage is a favourite of mine. Tech/Extreme - I haven’t listened to any of these (which no doubt is more evidence for some that I shouldn’t be on the prog metal team). I do like all the Opeth albums I’ve heard, and I own them all, too, but somehow I’ve not yet listened to anything from Still Life and before that. Zeuhl - So far, I think this is the only real competition for Exp/Post. Definite contender for my vote! Prog Related - Honestly, were it not for Led Zep, this would probably get my vote. Bowie is my favourite artist ever, and Blackstar is my favourite Bowie album. Likewise, Queen II is my favourite Queen album, and I’ve loved it for years upon years upon years. It’s so tempting to vote for this option, in sprite of Led Zep’s presence. But that would be defeating the point of the poll, and I do have to take all three albums into account. (Still so tempting, though…) Proto Prog - After Neo, this is the next easiest no for me. I like the Beatles, don’t mind Deep Purple, and don’t really like The Who. There’s just nothing here that grabs me, that I would choose over so many of the other albums in this poll. Ultimately, it comes down to Exp/Post and Zeuhl, and I’m not sure I can choose between them, without (eg) flipping a coin. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 07:13
same---but did make me wonder again why I never Got into Camel----found lack of dynamics boring.
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 07:33
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The eclectic trio for me. ------------- Oh, for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 07:38
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tough choice but went for Rush PTree and Haken ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 09:26
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3 albums that I have: Heavy Prog: Rush - Moving Pictures / Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet / Haken - The Mountain Symphonic Prog: Yes - Close to the Edge / Genesis - Selling England by the Pound / Camel - Mirage 2 albums that I have: Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King / Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff / Gentle Giant - In a Glass House Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2 - Scenes from a Memory / Riverside - Second Life Syndrome / Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here / Eloy - Ocean / Hypnos 69 - Legacy RIO/Avant-Prog: Frank Zappa - Hot Rats / Art Zoyd - Häxan / Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea Zeuhl: Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh (MDK) / Eskaton - 4 visions / Dün - Eros Prog Related: Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV / David Bowie - Blackstar / Queen - Queen II Proto-Prog: The Beatles - Abbey Road / The Who - Quadrophenia / Deep Purple - In Rock 1 album that I have: Canterbury Scene: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink / Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom / Gong - You Crossover Prog: Supertramp - Crime of the Century / Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn / Steven Wilson - The Raven that Refused to Sing Experimental/Post Metal: Tool - Lateralus / Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second / Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Andre Fertier's Clivage - Mixtus Orbis / Shakti with John McLaughlin - Natural Elements / Codona - Codona 3 Jazz Rock/Fusion: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue / Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire / Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior Neo-Prog: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood / IQ - The Road of Bones / Arena - Contagion Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick / Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison / Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Picchu Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze Mirage / Tangerine Dream - Rubycon / Alio Die - Deconsecrated and Pure Rock Progressivo Italiano: Premiata Forneria Marconi (PFM) - Per un amico / Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (BdMS) - Darwin! / Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra 0 albums that I have: Krautrock: Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra / Dom - Edge of Time / Ash Ra Tempel S/T Post Rock/Math Rock: Bohren & der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission / Swans - Children of God / Magyar Posse - Random Avenger Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Gorguts - Obscura / Opeth - Still Life / Death - Symbolic Various Genres/Artists: Jesus Christ Superstar / Odyssey - The Greatest Tale / La Biblia ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 09:30
| Symphonic. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 09:37
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1. Symphonic 2. Heavy 3. Canterbury ------------- 
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 09:40
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Albums I have on CD from the list:- Caravan - In the Land of Pink and Grey Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Miles Davis - Kind of Blue Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory (on DVD) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here YES - Close to the Edge Genesis - Selling England by the Pound Camel - Mirage Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV Queen - Queen II The Beatles - Abbey Road
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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 09:51
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I can hardly believe I'm going with the Crossover list, but those are three great albums! ------------- Z |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 10:32
| Neo for me!! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 10:35
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There are some excellent posts here. This was inspired by Nick's post, but I went longer than planned. Canterbury Scene: Like Nick, Caravan's In the Land of Grey and Pink is not as appealing as the other two. I super love Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom and love Gong's You, and I used to love In the Land of Grey and Pink, but I just lost interest in it many years ago. I still love Nine Feet Underground.. As a major classic of the Canterbury Scene, if it were replaced with Soft Machine's Third (8 on PA's Canterbury list), then Canterbury would have got my vote. Or had it been National Health's debut, or one by the Canterbury sound bands like Cos (I so love Cos), Supersister, and Picchio dal Pozzo, Moving Gelatine Plates. Or Hatfield's.... Crossover Prog: With Supertramp's Crime of the Century, Mike Oldfield's Ommadawn and Steven Wilson The Raven that Refused to Sing, I have quite enjoyed all of those, but like Nick, none really do much for me. A lot of my favourite 90s up music I could describe as Crossover Prog even if not included in that category at PA or in PA at all (and I have argued against some of that being included in PA). I think of David Bowie's Blackstar as Crossover, and think it would be there if we labeled albums. I like Bjork and many in Crossover Prog. For some big names, I would rather Radiohead's OK Computer, Kate Bush's The Hounds of Love, Talk Talk's Laughing Stock Eclectic Prog: With King Crimson, I would prefer Lizard or Larks' or Red to In the Court of the Crimson King. With Van der Graaf Generator, I would prefer Pawn Hearts, The Least We Can Do... and H to He... to Godbluff. With Gentle Giant, with favourite is Acquiring the Taste, and I would also prefer Three Friends, the debut, and Octopus to In a Glass House. Would love to see Bubu's Anabelas and Jean-Claude Vannier's L'enfant assassin... in top spots. Experimental/Post Metal: I never got into Tool, but perhaps it is not so much about getting into Tool as it is Tool getting into you. I like and own Maudlin of the Well's Part the Second, but prefer Leaving Your Body Map and Bath to it, as well as the debut I think. Nick recommended Postvorta and I suspect that that will become my favourite of the category. This is my favourite metal category at PA, but I like post-rock, post-metal, forum posts, postal women with post-feminist politics and capacious post-boxes. I had not even heard of this Sigh album that I can recall, and was rather surprised to see an unknown-to-me ranked so high. Heavy Prog: Rush's Moving Pictures/ Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet/ Haken's The Mountain. None of those albums really appeal to me. I liked that Rush album in high school very much. I'm much more of an Atomic Rooster's Death Walks Behind You, High Tide, Lucifer's Friend and Black Widow kind of guy. Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Andre Fertier's Clivage's Mixtus Orbis/ Shakti with John McLaughlin's Natural Elements and Codona 3. I have all three of these albums, and adore Mixtus Orbis and Codona 3 (two of my very favourite albums in PA), but am not so keen on Shakti. Had it been instead the fourth ranked album, Wulf Zendik's Dance of the Cozmic Warriorz, then I would have had a strong contender. Jazz Rock/Fusion: Miles Davis' Kind of Blue, Mahavishnu Orchestra's Birds of Fire and Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior. Like Saperlipopette! and Nick, these would not be my choices (not by a long shot actually). I do love JRF, and would much rather Herbie Hancock's Crossings or Sextant, Miles Davis' Get Up With It or Big Fun, Embryo, Nucleus, Eddie Henderson, Julian Priester, Maupin, Elepehant9, Miroslav Vitous, early Weather Report, the list goes on and on. Of course, as Drew points out, Kind of Blue is not JRF. Krautrock: Popol Vuh's Hosianna Mantra/ Dom Edge of Time/ Ash Ra Tempel S/T. I love all three of these and almost voted that way. I especially adore Dom. There are so mnay alternates one could choose. This is a very favourite category of mine. I think it was that Dom and Brave New World that really cemented my love of Krautrock. Neo-Prog: Marillion Misplaced Childhood/ IQ The Road of Bones/ Arena Contagion. There is various Neo-Prog I appreciate, but the category doesn't seem to be for me. I tend to dislike AORish (as a genre) and Arena Rock music, and lots of kinds of melodic pop-rock and this seems to often be in this kind of melodic rock vein. My favourite album that I have heard included in the Neo-Prog category is Marc Ceccotti's Sometimes Around Saturn, which has butt (sorry, thinking Uranus) one rating with three stars. Post Rock/Math Rock: Bohren & der Club of Gore's Sunset Mission/ Swans' Children of God/ Magyar Posse's Random Avenger. I love the Swans album, duh, but haven't heard those others yet. I will. Another Swans was in the top three for the category, Soundtracks for the Blind (which is another favourite of mine). It was nice to see those two very much loved by me albums in the top three. From forum interactions I got the impression that neither of these albums are well-liked here (expect by very few). In fact, I can't remember anyone else sharing their love here for Soundtracks for the Blind (mostly it's the modern era revival albums that get talked about, which I love too). Another quite recent post-rock fave of mine has been Ciśnienie (can get a bit too formulaic I find as they deal in epic crescendos. I love a good crescendo. Tortoise is another particular favourite of mine in post-rock, and Pram now that it has been added to PA. I adore Pram but had argued against the addition. lol I'm no expert. Prog Folk: Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick, Harmonium's Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison and Los Jaivas Alturas de Machu Picchu. I have had all of those albums in my collection and enjoyed them, but none of them are my Prog kinds of favourites. I favour more acid folk leaning ones like Comus, Spirogyra, Perry Leopold, Linda Perhacs, Jan Dukes de Grey, Pentangle, The Incredible String Band, Pearls Before Swine. Not considered Prog folk (very much related), but my favourite song of all may be Nick Drake's "River Man". Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze's Mirage, Tangerine Dream's Rubycon and Alio Die's Deconsecrated and Pure. I love Mirage and that might well be in my top three, but I don't really remember the Alio Die, and from Tangerine Dream I would favour Atem or others, and adore Franco Leprino's Integrati.... Disintegrati, Zanov, and Igor Wakhevitch. Progressive Metal: Dream Theater Metropolis Part 2 - Scenes from a Memory/ Riverside Second Life Syndrome/ Queensrÿche Operation: Mindcrime. Not a preferred category of mine, but I do like Diablo Swing Orchestra (a real oddity in the category methinks -- have wondered how well it fits there). Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here/ Eloy Ocean/ Hypnos 69 Legacy. I like what I have heard of Hypnos 69. I prefer earlier Floyd, I would go with Atom Heart Mother, or Meddle, or a Saucerful of Secrets. I love psych and music with psych qualities. A favourite of mine in that category is Alain Goraguer's La Planète Sauvage (OST) RIO/Avant-Prog: Frank Zappa's Hot Rats, Art Zoyd's Häxan, Cardiacs' On Land and in the Sea. I love that Art Zoyd album and gave it five stars with a review, but still would rather it be one of the 80s albums or Faust. I gave it the first review here even though it has been in PA for ages. Interesting how high it ranks now. Art Zoyd has been my traditional favourite band in PA. That is a mighty fine Cardiacs album, but I kind of went off Cardiacs largely at the same time I got very into Swans. Hot Rats is an early fave of mine. That said, I would rather a Henry Cow or Univers Zero replace it and replace Cardiacs. It's all about the R.I.O., baby! Geinoh Yamshirogumi's Osorezan is a major favourite of mine, though, and so it is not really all about the Rock in Opposition specific ones. I wonder if any babies were conceived at the RIO concerts? It's not Woodstock, but still.... Rock Progressivo Italiano: PFM's Per un amico/ Banco del Mutuo Soccorso's Darwin!/ Museo Rosenbach's Zarathustra. While I like those three albums, I don't like that PFM nearly as much as Storia di un minuto, or as much as L'isola di niente. I would rather BDMS's debut. Although I think of Area as a different beast (A sort of avant prog jazz-rock fusion), it rules when it comes to ones in that category for me. Symphonic Prog: Yes' Close to the Edge, Genesis' Selling England by the Pound, Camel's Mirage. Other than the title track, I don't like Yes' Close to the Edge. I won't call it overrated like Richard, although an argument could be made that it is since many people consider certain music on it weak, but other than "Cinema Show", Selling England By the Pound doesn't do a lot for me (I like Firth too). Like Nick, the Camel is my favourite of these albums. I still prefer The Snow Goose to Mirage. I would rather see many French ones at the top, including Clearlight, Arachnoid, and Shylock. Better yet, a Swede, Bo "Tha Bomb" Hansson. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Gorguts Obscura/ Opeth Still Life/ Death Symbolic. I don't know this category very well yet. I have heard a handful of albums I enjoyed. Zeuhl: Magma's Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh (MDK)/ Eskaton's 4 visions/ Dün' Eros. This got my vote although I do prefer Magma's debut, but MDK is quintessential Zeuhl. I actually prefer MDK on some lives. I was a Zeuhl completest at bone time (along with Canterbury) Various Genres/Artists: Jesus Christ Superstar/ Odyssey - The Greatest Tale/ La Biblia. Never heard that Odyssey. Interestingly, I noticed that ones with a Christian theme do very well in those charts. The Zodiac - Cosmic Sounds would be number one from the category. Prog Related: Led Zeppelin IV/ David Bowie's Blackstar/ Queen II. I adore Blackstar and have thought of it as the most significant and remarkable album of the last twenty years. I think it such an accomplishment, and so poignant. Whata culmination of a long, fruitful career in music. With Zepp, I prefer Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti. I like Queen but haven't heard that album in decades. A favourite of mine is John Cale & Terry Riley's Church Of Anthrax, Gerard Manset's La Mort d'Orion, also like Vangelis' The Dragon, and William Sheller's Lux Aeterna. Proto-Prog: The Beatles' Abbey Road/ The Who's Quadrophenia/ Deep Purple's In Rock. None of those would by my personal picks. I prefer The United States Of America, Les Maledictus Sound, Gun, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Silver Apples, Spirit.... But then Cream is Proto-Prog to me, so what do I know? ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 11:11
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Own all 3 Canterbury Scene: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink / Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom / Gong - You Crossover Prog: Supertramp - Crime of the Century / Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn / Steven Wilson - The Raven that Refused to Sing Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King / Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff / Gentle Giant - In a Glass House Jazz Rock/Fusion: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue / Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire / Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior Rock Progressivo Italiano: Premiata Forneria Marconi (PFM) - Per un amico / Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (BdMS) - Darwin! / Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Symphonic Prog: Yes - Close to the Edge / Genesis - Selling England by the Pound / Camel - Mirage Zeuhl: Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh (MDK) / Eskaton - 4 visions / Dün - Eros Own 2 Experimental/Post Metal: Tool - Lateralus / Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second / Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape Heavy Prog: Rush - Moving Pictures / Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet / Haken - The Mountain Krautrock: Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra / Dom - Edge of Time / Ash Ra Tempel S/T Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick / Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison / Los Jaivas - Alturas de Machu Picchu Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze Mirage / Tangerine Dream - Rubycon / Alio Die - Deconsecrated and Pure Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2 - Scenes from a Memory / Riverside - Second Life Syndrome / Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here / Eloy - Ocean / Hypnos 69 - Legacy RIO/Avant-Prog: Frank Zappa - Hot Rats / Art Zoyd - Häxan / Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea Own 1 Neo-Prog: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood / IQ - The Road of Bones / Arena - Contagion Post Rock/Math Rock: Bohren & der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission / Swans - Children of God / Magyar Posse - Random Avenger Prog Related: Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV / David Bowie - Blackstar / Queen - Queen II Proto-Prog: The Beatles - Abbey Road / The Who - Quadrophenia / Deep Purple - In Rock Own none Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Andre Fertier's Clivage - Mixtus Orbis / Shakti with John McLaughlin - Natural Elements / Codona - Codona 3 Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Gorguts - Obscura / Opeth - Still Life / Death - Symbolic Various Genres/Artists: Jesus Christ Superstar / Odyssey - The Greatest Tale / La Biblia ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 11:25
See you go and make a recommendation like that and the only things I can find are bootlegs for $20 or used copies for ~$50. Haha You're killing me! ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 11:52
I’m just glad someone (anyone) read my post! 😄🤪
That might just have changed my thought process. Probably my favourite Canterbury band.
Me, too! By quite a large margin, too. I do like bands from all three PM genres, but by far the most are from Exp/Post. I guess it’s the most “natural” home for a lot of the more avant metal, and avant does tend to be where I’m drawn (hence, I guess why the RIO/Avant and Zeuhl were probably the only two genres in this poll, by albums listed, to be up there for me with Exp/Post).
I like so much heavy prog, but found the selection here to be quite underwhelming.
There is no PA genre I would ever say I dislike, but Neo probably holds the least interest. It is a far more varied genre, though, than the three albums mentioned in the poll might suggest. There are quite a few Neo bands/albums I do like - and even own. But I can’t say Marillion or IQ have ever done anything for me. Arena is more palatable, but still not really my cup of tea. Probably because I don’t drink tea. I’d rather have coffee…
It’s not, but it does stick out like a sore thumb that they are absent. It just felt wrong to pick this, even if I liked all three albums. I want to see some Henry Cow, Univers Zero and Etron Fou Leloublan! ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 12:03
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My top 3 in Avant would be Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors, Henry Cow - Western Culture & Vezhlivy Otkaz - Gusi-Lebedi so I guess that last one would have scared off even a few Avant heads, I could have replaced it with Art Zoyd - Generation San Futur or Cardiacs - Sing To God. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 13:15
I greatly appreciate reading your posts, Nick, be they long, medium or short. I admire your organisation, flow, and your general thinking. It's a rare post from anybody that I wouldn't read, and never not in any threads I start unless I somehow miss it due to one long breaks from the site. By the way, I did know you were kidding some time back, but I had wanted to explain for those who might not get it such as the more casual readers.
If it's not now available except as used copies and bootlegs, sometimes streaming must suffice (although of course you would have found this if you wanted it). It sounds rather different from my copy, which I had in part uploaded to youtube over a decade ago. As Barbarella said , "A good many dramatic situations begin with screaming." My top RIO band albums might be Art Zoyd's Generation Sans Futur, Univers Zero 1313, and Henry Cow's pre-RIO album In Praise of Learning. Vezhlivy Otkaz - Gusi-Lebedi might be new to me. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 13:29
I listened to the stream and enjoyed it, now I have to work out how you rip stuff from youtube. I could happily live with your RIO top 3. Check out the Vezhlivy Otkaz, it's gorgeous. https://otkaz.bandcamp.com/album/geese-and-swans" rel="nofollow - https://otkaz.bandcamp.com/album/geese-and-swans ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 14:41
That’s marvellous! I love it! 🤗😍❤️ ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 16:33
I really liked it, thanks. The avant-jazz and folky acoustic qualities work very well for this, methinks. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 17:35
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I LOVE Nick's approach. Canterbury - I love the Caravan album but only like the Wyatt and Gong. Crossover - Love Crime of the Century but don't care much for the other two. Eclectic - Three great bands, three great albums, but not my favorite albums from each. Exp/Post - One of the best contenders; I just don't know the Sigh album very well. Heavy - Haken and Rush are not among my favorite bands--they've never really appealed to me, but I do like and appreciate that PT album. Indo/Raga - Another contender as I have and like all three. Jazz/Fusion - I love all three artists and albums here, but I really have a problem with a 1959 album representing Progressive Rock Music. Krautrock - Not much of a fan of the sub-genre, despite my appreciation for both Popol Vuh and Ash Ra Tempel. Neo - Just, no. Three of my least favorite albums from this sub-genre. Post/Math - Never even heard of Bohren, so can't possibly vote for this trio. Folk - Another sure-fire candidate; three great albums. Electronic - Another strong contender, perhaps even the best. Prog Metal - One of three. No go. Pick a different trio and this sub-genre could fare well. Psych/Space - Three duds (that is, not favorites), therefore, definitely not a contender. RIO/Avant - Great trio despite my strange aversion to Cardiacs and overall distaste for Frank's predisposition for potty humor. RPI - No can do: Zarathustra is one of the most underwhelming albums I've ever heard. Symphonic - Not a fan of Mirage as much as many of the other trio members. Tech/Extreme - a sub-genre that I've grown to appreciate but probably would never find myself voting for. Zeuhl - LOVE the first two but not a fan of Eros. Various - so tempted to vote for this one cuz I love the first two so much but I've never heard the third, so, no go. Prog Related - nice trio; very deserving but I really want to vote for prog albums. Proto Prog - Like the first two but not the third. Plus, as above, I really want to vote for a true prog album. I think I voted for J-R Fusion though could've gone for the Prog Electronic trio. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 08 2022 at 17:45
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I have to go with the option that includes Rubycon, one of my favorite albums ever. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 00:39
If this and Swans were paired with something more interesting than Maygar Posse (which is ok I guess) this could be a strong contender for me. Bohren's got nothing to do with Math and little to do with Post, but Sunset Mission (and the following Black Earth) is a stunning, slow burning, doom-laden dark jazz-album - I'd warmly reccomend. Sounds like it's gonna be something hard and heavy, but its not. Not at all. More like a band playing at the Black Lodge and very Baldamenti/Twin Peaks. You may not find it particularly proggy though. This is the opening track. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 01:24
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^ I love that. Very Black Lodge and very Angelo Badalamenti / Twin Peaks as you say. That made me think of this Portishead track too (Western Eyes): As an aside, I wonder how many people recognise that my avatar references Twin Peaks? I'm a big Twin Peaks fan. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 02:16
I love Bohren, but I’d never describe them as post or math rock. I actually discovered them via Exp/Post, because so many bands I love from that genre cite Bohren as a major influence in their sound. ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 02:34
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 02:50
Oh, I know. I was agreeing with you, that’s all. When you do hear their music, though, it is easy to hear just how influential they have been. One of those bands that it seems many musicians have listened to, paid attention to, and been influenced by; yet somehow has passed by the greater mass of music listeners (even those who listen to those who were influenced by them). ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 03:00
I think they mainly must have passed the greater mass of prog-listeners. (Sunset Mission is at 33th for 2000 and Black Earth 31st for 2002)  |
Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 07:45
| Hard for me to not go with the symphonic trio here but the the hard prog, crossover, psychedelic, eclectic & proto prog selections are all very solid as well. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 08:12
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I go for proto ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 09:43
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Bohren are slow moving doom jazz, lovely stuff. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 09 2022 at 19:19
Another great idea Greg, keep them coming, no pressure. I started from the bottom and worked up and it wasn't until I got to the top that I said "That's it!". Canterbury for me. It well could have been Heavy Prog but I haven't heard "The Mountain" yet although I own it. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 10 2022 at 03:45
Thanks, John. I try to come up with some good ones periodically to make up for all the bad ideas. I did do a part two. Very nice choice with the Canterbury. "If The Mountain will not come to Muhammad, then Muhammad must go to The Mountain." ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |