Interactive Poll: Live Again!
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Topic: Interactive Poll: Live Again!
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Subject: Interactive Poll: Live Again!
Date Posted: November 12 2022 at 17:52
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Are you ready? I want to get back involved. Here are the rules. Please choose: 1) Two live songs by any group (you can also choose a prog group if you want) lasting no longer than 5 minutes or in total no longer than 10 minutes (e.g. 3 minutes one song is fine, 7 minutes the other) 2) A live piece longer than 7 minutes, from 7 minutes to 15 minutes, by an artist not listed on Progarchives In the end, each of us will have nominated three songs, two medium-short and one long. So there can be a maximum of 8 participants in this poll (8 x 3 = 24) but if there are more participants, no problem, I'll open another poll parallel to this one to enter the nominated songs that exceed 24. In the end, each forumist will vote for 6 songs: - 4 songs taken from the medium-short songs - 2 songs taken from the long songs Have fun! Comments on the songs are welcome ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 12 2022 at 18:01
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My selection: TWO SHORTS SONGS: 1) Ou - La Mentita https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLkBpJ2r7RE" rel="nofollow - 2) Tredici Bacci (feat. Foetus) - Emmanuelle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DHJxlqc1M0" rel="nofollow - ONE LONG SONG: I believe this is the only live version of this song performed with a string orchestra (provided to Springsteen by the city of Rome) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDd6BLOPwW4&list=PLuaTth-hU0i-ssAkvBp0eA2E_r7AZGSc4" rel="nofollow -
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 00:25
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@Lorenzo, is this about live performances on stage only or do e.g. performances on a tv-show or live studio sessions count as well? Btw. with live performances a time limit can be a bit difficult. Extended versions of songs are often played including impros. A limitation to one song per entry is feasible. However, instrumental pieces are often longer. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 02:24
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MILA: @Lorenzo, is this about live performances on stage only or do e.g. performances on a tv-show - Performance in tv is ok or live studio sessions count as well? - No, there must be an audience that listens. Btw. with live performances a time limit can be a bit difficult. Extended versions of songs are often played including impros. A limitation to one song per entry is feasible. However, instrumental pieces are often longer. - I put an average time limit precisely because live performances are likely to be long, and I would not want someone to put on two 10-minute mini-suites or jam sessions (total 20 minutes): since we have to listen to two songs, I would not want to make this obligation too demanding, and so I put a maximum time limit of 5 minutes per song, so at most we listen to music for 10 minutes. In short, the songs cannot be long, they are medium-short. But, to be more flexible, I can say that one can be even longer than 5 minutes (for example about 7 minutes) and the other must be shorter (for example about 3 minutes) ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 05:47
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When it comes to live performances, I need more time to find two short songs than one longer piece or song, you see? But this two-stage voting procedure does not allow this option which I personally prefer. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 05:56
I have changed the rules! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Mila-13 wrote:Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 06:19
We got time... ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 08:56
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I also find it far easier to find long live versions that I love than short ones, so I start with a long one. Everybody knows this band, maybe too many know this song even, but they haven't appeared in the interactive polls yet as far as I remember. Also in the beginning you may wonder whether it's a live video and the sound is remastered, still later you see the show and it's a fabulous thing really. The Cure started their Wish album and the tour with a song called "Open" and ended it with a song called "End". Both of these are perfect for opening and ending, and are among my most listened to Cure songs. Here is "Open". |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 09:22
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OK, the shorter ones. Very British this time. Killing Joke - Asteroid (one of my fav live videos, I hope I haven't used it already) Public Service Broadcasting - Go! "Keep the chatter down in this room!" "We're off to a good start!" |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 11:10
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A very short one, a forty years old track, but they're still going strong... Fischer-Z - Limbo: And if you want to sing along, the lyrics are not that complicated, and very much repeated: A riddle - a piddle - a middle - again LIMBO The razamataz is a pain in the bum The next one, a bit longer, by a band who display a wonderful energy on stage. They're also still going strong, but I chose an old video for this one. Têtes Raides - Patalo: (you can find the lyrics and some kind of English translation https://songstranslation.com/ttes-raides/patalo/" rel="nofollow - here ) ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 11:22
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And my long one; would love to see her live, some day... (for the video, they used some tricks) Hildur Guðnadóttir - Composition for halldorophone #5: ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 12:13
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I see now! So my idea it's ok! That's great! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 13:34
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Just set up this account to share music so I hope this works. BUSKER - Lord Of The Rings (Listed on PA) a short one (2:59 Min) https://soundcloud.com/whitepinemedia/busker-lord-of-the-rings-live" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/whitepinemedia/busker-lord-of-the-rings-live (Not Listed on PA) A Short One (4:18 min) Grand Funk - Inside Looking Out (Not Listed on PA) A Long One (12:53 min) Lee Michaels - Hold on to Freedom (Not Listed on PA) A Long One (10:55 min) ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 14:24
It works for me. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 15:35
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And, Does this link work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDd6BLOPwW4&list=PLuaTth-hU0i-ssAkvBp0eA2E_r7AZGSc4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDd6BLOPwW4&list=PLuaTth-hU0i-ssAkvBp0eA2E_r7AZGSc4 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 15:36
Works for me.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 15:50
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Christian - Lewian Cure - Open is a very good song, after a (too long - but we are in a concert) ecstatic beginning starts a cacophonic, mesmeric rock, where the sound is perfect, you can hear the voice well, you can hear the distorted guitar well, and the wall of sound of the rhythm section. Song the same from beginning to end, I would say almost monotonous, the composition here is not the strong point, but the sound (vocals and distorted guitar) and the atmosphere is. Psychedelic song in its way, but powerful, and this is the good thing, the Cure when they are powerful give their best. Candidate Asteroid - O Mamma! how ugly the singer is. Heavy metal or punk song? Song as bad as the singer, who with his guttural sounds wants to inspire a sinister atmosphere. I understand the genre, it has its musical reasons, but I'm not in this mood. Go! - After two very sustained rock songs Christian offers us a very synthetic and melodic stadium synth pop, a more pleasant song than the previous one but all in all not exciting. In conclusion, Christian provided one of my candidates for the long song. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 16:15
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@Kees Limbo is a one-and-a-half minute jaunt that's very catchy live, nice keyboards and bass parts Patalo - French orchestral piece with march time music, not exciting start because it is too centred on the singing, which is a parody singing, whereas when the accordion comes in the song takes off, excellent instrumental piece, typically French atmosphere, great listening, candidate Long song - Here is an avant-garde piece (or contemporary classical music?) all on the cello, with distorted and perhaps electronically treated sounds (or perhaps not), in any case non-melodic music, dissonant, atonal at times... what can I say? It certainly wins the Grand Critics' Prize! I don't know to what extent I like it, on the whole (at times I like it a lot) but it is certainly original and interesting, it is music that I don't listen to easily, so excellent contribution In conclusion, Kees provided one of my nominees for the short song (for the long song I don't know) ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 13 2022 at 16:36
Thanks for your interest.
 They're usually filed under post punk; acknowledged by good parts of the metal audience as far as I know but it is pretty clear that they don't belong there, and I also think the sound is not punk anymore. It's hard to pin down what exactly the difference is, but somewhat easier when you look at their whole catalogue; this is maybe their punkiest except the very early days. Yeah, I love some of my rock to be relentless and uncivilised. This is a major example and for sure not for everyone. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 17:49
 ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 15 2022 at 17:50
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Mila, where are thu? Join us! We miss you. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 16 2022 at 16:24
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Ok, here's a potpurri of musical styles à la Mila: Lamomali: Manitoumani > short one Lamomali is a project by French rock musician Matthieu Chedid in collaboration with various Malian artists, esp. singer-songwriter Fatoumata Diawara, the great kora player Toumani Diabaté and his son Sidiki Diabaté.- There is a longer version of the same song, but I prefer this one, esp. the video. [Max Raabe & Palast Orchester: Küssen kann man nicht alleine] out of competiton M.R. is a German musician and band leader. His music is strongly inspired by German-language Schlager and chansons from the 1920s and 1930s, accompanied by humorous and witty lyrics. The title of this song translates to 'You Cannot Kiss by Yourself'. Here Raabe is joined by German singer Namika. https://lyricstranslate.com/en/kuessen-kann-man-nicht-alleine-you-cant-kiss-yourself.html" rel="nofollow - English Lyrics Sara Renar: Jesen > short one S.R. is a singer-songwriter from Zagreb, Croatia. Her music style can be described as experimental/indie/pop mixing subtle melodies with electronic and theatrical elements. English song title: Autumn/Fall. __________________________________ I might replace the first song with this one:. Arthur Hnatek Trio: Monotonous > long one A.H. is a young emerging Swiss jazz musician. He has performed at La Cigale (Paris), Berghain Kantine in Berlin or Montreux Jazz Festival to name just a few.- The video was filmed during a sunrise concert at Les Aubes festival in Geneva (July 2020).- This is a calm, meditative piece that fits nicely the atmosphere of the venue, located on the shore of Lake Geneva.- The title of the piece is somewhat misleading by the way. _________________________ p.s. I'm on a business trip atm so I barely had time to look for songs, esp. because three are required this time, also in different lengths. I realise that I am not the only person here who had some difficulties with this :P |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 11:41
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One of my favorite rock bands is Cheap Trick. I have only seen them live once and it was at a low point in their career when they were playing county fairs. Still, great to see live. Cheap Trick - Southern Girls These ladies I have mentioned before in these polls, including a live instrumental. Their live performances are great as the playing is tight and the enthusiasm appears genuine. Hard to pick one. Enthusiastic audience and possibly the happiest drummer on the planet. Band-Maid - Play Finally, a band I have mentioned but nominated before. This is a recent video from the World Music Expo, so I know I haven't shown it before. Dongyang Gozupa - Cycle |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 12:07
Thanks Christian. Anyway, I've founded this one: it's better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-IZWISZ8CY ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 17 2022 at 14:11
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I just thought that out of competition I share this one with you. A friend from my hometown Hamburg made me aware of this. Achim Reichel from Hamburg is a proper German rock dinosaur who already in the sixties made some heavily early Beatles influenced music with the Rattles. In the first half of the seventies he went prog and experimental, and his A.R. & Machines project is actually on PA, if rather hidden and unknown. In between he produced some nice but rather unsophisticated German language rock with folk influences, which gave him the occasional small hit in Germany. I had lost him from my radar in the 21st century, but actually in 2017, aged 73 and still a local celebrity, he did a concert in Hamburg's most fancy supermodern concert hall Elbphilharmonie under the old project name A.R. & Machines, where he played his prog/ambient/experimental repertoire again, with improvised elements. Here's a video from that event. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 13:00
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OUT OF COMPETITION: Do you remember this film? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 18 2022 at 17:11
| I do. I have a CD of the soundtrack somewhere. I have not listened to it since I got it out of a cut out bin for a couple of dollars. It had that Juliette Lewis song, a cover of Strange Days by Prong, and a song with Peter Gabriel on vocals, among others. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 02:10
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The long one: Little River Band- It's a Long Way There (not on PA) The short ones: De Kast - In Nije Dei (in Frisian, not on PA) John Cale - Venus in Furs (John Cale is on PA, VU are not) ------------- 
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 02:14
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I'm back from my trip and went quickly through my playlist from the 'Back on Stage' poll. I came across another piece and I have added it to my first post (top of this page). I might replace my first proposal with the new one. If anyone of you guys wants to help me, I will be greatful for any advice. It's only about a first impression. You don't have to listen to the songs in full. :) |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 05:59
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^ Well, if I were you (which I'm not), I would keep the Matthieu Chedid track but replace the Max Raabe track with the one by the AH Trio. The Raabe track is nice, but the music is not that interesting - merely there to support the lyrics. The other two are much more interesting, IMHO. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 06:35
| ^^I thought similarly. I like both Lamomali and Arthur Hnatek Trio tracks. All four good, but as much of the enjoyment of the Max Raabe comes from the delivery of the lyrics, which I needed the tranation. The others are stronger musically in my opinion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 07:26
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Lorenzo: Great energetic Italian live music there; Italy has so much to offer music-wise! Ou - this just brings the house down, I love it. And some surprise changes. Tredici Baci - this is a wonderful song that resonates strongly with me, even though the sound is not optimal and I think I could handle the male vocals better if I listened to this live properly rather than as a recording. Bruce Springsteen does his thing - can't fault the guy live, much energy and musicality there as always. The song is not for me though. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 10:19
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Kees: Fischer-Z were a great 80s band. I saw them live once probably around 1988 but lost track of them a little bit later; nice to see they're still going. This song is big fun live, although this is another one that works better being in the crowd rather than on yt. Tetes Raides obviously put on a great show and the sound is also very good. I didn't know this track but I've got to say it reminds me of too many things of this kind I've heard already. Hildur Guðnadóttir may well be my winner out of yours, although I had this on while doing some other stuff first and I believe this really needs full attention to be appreciated as I figured out in the last 2 minutes only.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 14:12
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JD: Half of this continues the organ theme. You have a thing for that instrument, don't you? I can for sure understand why. I didn't know Busker. Yeah, this puts me in a good mood. Gotta read about them. Is She Really Going Out With Him? Iconic version of an iconic song. Joe Jackson fan here, I could well have nominated that myself. Grand Funk: Not really my kind of music, but this is how a live album should be played. Let the music roll! I can say the same about Lee Michaels. Pity that these are not live videos - I'd like to see the musicians, how they communicate, how the dynamic between them develops. I'd have been happy to be at both these gigs.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 16:19
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Mila: Nice suggestion of Max Raabe. Even though this is not what I normally listen to, this is a proper one-off in these polls; I don't think we ever had something remotely similar, and the fun lyrics are not lost on me as a German of course. The Lamomali song has the strongest live atmosphere incl. interaction with the audience. I know Fatomata Diawara well, she is a great singer, and the whole thing is brimming with positive energy. I wonder whether the Sara Renar is actually live; can't find this in the description on yt (which is Serbian though). This is an OK song but for my taste too polished for a live poll. Just from my musical taste Arthur Hnatek is the best out of yours; I love this cool understated instrumental style. Lake Geneva makes for a nice background.
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 17:30
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@ Kees and George. Thanks for the support, guys! I think I will take your advice. This might be interesting for you:
As for Max Raabe and his Orchestra, they have a wide-ranging repertoire including songs by Kurt Weill, Cole Porter, Irving Berlin etc.as well as original compositions. The Orchestra is also quite successful internationally, esp. in the U.S. Their concerts at Carnegie Hall were sold out several times. This goes back i.a. to the legendary Comedian Harmonists who are still an important source of inspiration for Max Raabe. The Comedian Harmonists were an internationally famous, all-male German vocal ensemble that performed between 1928 and 1934 as one of the most successful musical groups in Europe before World War II. Due to censorship and the ban on performances by Jewish artists the original ensemble disbanded after a tour in the U.S. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 17:58
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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 19 2022 at 19:30
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@Christian. Thank you too for your comment, much appreciated! Max Raabe: I don't often listen to this type of music either. I wanted to bring something quite different for a change, something with a connection to a completely different era. I explained that to George and Kees in my previous post. My choice was also meant as a little surprise for you btw. :) Sara Renar: In the video description there is some information about the venue and the concert date. Obviously some artistic video editing has been done in order to use it as an official music video. It is quite possible that the sound recording was edited at the same time incl. background noise removal as is nowadays the case with professional live recordings. The same goes for my other two submissions, esp. the Hnatek video. I'm glad you liked him; he's indeed a talented and promising artist.- Btw. on the A.R. & Machines youtube channel there is an official video of their concert at the Elbphilharmonie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyAzQecxSXo" rel="nofollow - here |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 03:48
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George: Cheap Trick: All tootraditional straightforward rock is not my thing, but of coyrse this works very well on a stage. The other two are wonderful. Super-impressed by the energy but up by Band-Maid and it's so nice seeing them having some big fun. I know why I love proper live videos. The Dongyang Gozupa one will need repeat listens to appreviate all the small things done here, but I already see that it has some good ebb and flow dynamic. This kind of instrumental whirlwind is another thing that I like a lot in a live setting.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 06:18
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someone_else: My highlight out of yours is the John Cale song. This is a legendary and unique song, and John Cale's delivery is emotional. I've seen a few concerts of his on TV and online and he really lives his music. I always enjoy seeing him. I wasn't aware that Cale is on PA while Velvet Underground are not, how strange! The other two are good live deliveries of music that isn't really my cup of tea.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 06:18
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My take on the suggestions, so far: Lorenzo: Ou, with La mentita, stands out for me from your three tracks: original energetic and captivating. Tredici Bacci sound a bit more polished; nice except for the "singer". I'm a bit underwhelmed by the Springsteen track, nice to hear, but rather "standard", to my ears. Christian: A couple of months ago I saw (excerpts of) a recent concert by The Cure broadcast on French television. I couldn't really stand it for a long time, because it all came over as one big mess of sound - I got back to it regularly, though. Hearing this track, I guess it is part of the The Cure sound. It starts off nicely, but when they're all playing together it becomes a big sound mess again, to me, and a bit too monotonous. Although music-wise I normally prefer The Cure, here I prefer the Killing Joke video. But from your three I'd Go with PSB, music wise and sound wise. suitkees: Limbo should become the National Anthem of a country, but Têtes Raides should write one for France, to get rid of that hideous Marseillaise. Hildur plays the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halldorophone" rel="nofollow - halldorophone : a kind of cello with an electronic feedback component for each string, which makes this sound like more than just a cello, whether you like it or not. JD: Busker sound quite good, except maybe for the singer. Makes me think a bit of The Nice and early Yes. Joe Jackson's acapella piece has been brought forward before in one of these polls. Always nice to hear, but also very well known. Grand Funk bring actually Grand bluesy Rock 'n Roll. Not bad, very energetic, but maybe a bit too straightforward for my ears despite some wonderful passages in the second - jamming - part of the song. I prefer the Lee Michaels track here, great organ and emotionally more engaging. Mila: I saw this Lamomali concert aired on TV a couple of years ago - was wonderful to see and hear. And this is a beautiful song; love it! Chedid/M is of course a very well known artist here (and the whole Chedid family, actually). Max Raabe with some mellow big band music to bring a funny text. Nice to hear, but not earth shaking. I find the Sara Renar track quite intriguing; accessable electro pop/rock with a nice sonic stance. I always hated hand claps coming from a drum machine and I think her music could become much more interesting if she would leave those things to the real drummer. A bit short, actually; I would have liked a bit more development. The Arthur Hnatek Trio brings for me the most interesting track, next to Lamomali. Musically speaking these two are the stand outs for me. George: Cheap Trick, famous! But we don't hear them that often. Nice raw rock track, although the drummer sounds a bit too much like a wood chopper... I had forgotten how great the singer is! I remember Band Maid from an earlier poll. Not really my music, but super tight - I guess live this must be a great experience. Dongyang Gozupa - what's this? Eastern trad-folk metal, or the Dulcimer version of ELP? Whatever, it is a great listen and a real virtuosity on that dulcimer. My preferred one of the batch, easily. Robert: Ow, this is a kind of nostalgia trip. A wonderful rendition of this Little River Band hit from the 70s. I must say I had forgotten about this band, but this is a great reminder. Jemig, dat is lang geleden dat ik wat van De Kast gehoord heb. This was quite a big hit in the Netherlands in the 90s. I never dived more into this band but they had some decent radio play in those days. Great song, actually, wonderful Nederpop. This was also used in a film, wasn't it? And then this exceptional Velvet Underground track. Cale is in top form here. Musically easily, for me, the most interesting of the three. Great selection! ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 08:58
Not wrong, it has become something of a trademark that they sound very "thick", live and also often on albums. Often I don't like that (many seem to think Disintegration is their best album and for sure it has good songs, but I'd have preferred a leaner sound on that for sure), but in this particular song it works well for me (as well as "End"). In the early days they sounded much leaner. The studio version of this was the first song I heard of them and they won me over immediately with it. Could have suggested that as a "short live" contribution here. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 11:35
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^ Yes, that's how I prefer The Cure. The A.R. & Machines track is quite intriguing, BTW. A pity that the audience recording does not do it real justice, but it raised my curiosity (didn't hear of him/them before). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 20 2022 at 12:23
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[QUOTE=Mila-13] Lamomali: Manitoumani Lamomali is a project by French rock musician Matthieu Chedid in collaboration with various Malian artists, esp. singer-songwriter Fatoumata Diawara, the great kora player Toumani Diabaté and his son Sidiki Diabaté.- There is a longer version of the same song, but I prefer this one, esp. the video. Max Raabe & Palast Orchester: Küssen kann man nicht alleine M.R. is a German musician and band leader. His music is strongly inspired by German-language Schlager and chansons from the 1920s and 1930s, accompanied by humorous and witty lyrics. The title of this song translates to 'You Cannot Kiss by Yourself'. Here Raabe is joined by German singer Namika. https://lyricstranslate.com/en/kuessen-kann-man-nicht-alleine-you-cant-kiss-yourself.html" rel="nofollow - English Lyrics Sara Renar: Jesen S.R. is a singer-songwriter from Zagreb, Croatia. Her music style can be described as experimental/indie/pop mixing subtle melodies with electronic and theatrical elements. English song title: Autumn/Fall. __________________________________ I might replace the first song with this one:. Arthur Hnatek Trio: Monotonous A.H. is a young emerging Swiss jazz musician. He has performed at La Cigale (Paris), Berghain Kantine in Berlin or Montreux Jazz Festival to name just a few.- The video was filmed during a sunrise concert at Les Aubes festival in Geneva (July 2020).- This is a calm, meditative piece that fits nicely the atmosphere of the venue, located on the shore of Lake Geneva.- The title of the piece is somewhat misleading by the way. _________________________ p.s. I'm on a business trip atm so I barely had time to look for songs, esp. because three are required this time, also in different lengths. I realise that I am not the only person here who had some difficulties with this :P -------- MILA!!! Lamomali: African song, sung in French, works on the repetition of sounds and rhythm progression, with an electric guitar solo that makes it more European. It does not excite me. But I recognise that for some it can be enthralling. MR & PO: German Cabaret? Almost vaudeville, nice, shame the orchestral arrangement is too much in the background. In my opinion the weakest piece in this selection. Sara Renar: these videos distract me from the music! Couldn't the singer wear a burka? I'd be more careful!!! Cute atmospheric song, with a nice chorus. My personal favourite. AH Trio: abstract and very dissonant avant-garde jazz, a bit monotonous for my taste (lots of drums, the melody isnt developed), but we are talking about a quality track, with ambition, it's a candidate for the Grand Prix de la Critique (which it competes with Kees' piece). ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: November 21 2022 at 03:27
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@Lorenzo, thanks for the comments! Btw. there is no e-guitar in the African track, at
least not as a lead instrument. It is an amplified acoustic guitar and a kora,
a stringed instrument used extensively in West Africa. Did you mix things up or do you rather need a pair of new headphones or glasses? The video is of top quality. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 22 2022 at 17:45
O my God. I'm getting older!!!! ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 23 2022 at 16:07
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@JD JD gives us two pieces of 'classic' rock that I already knew, the first, by Joe Jackson, doesn't convince me: the a cappella singing fails to give us the rhythm and ramshackle intonation of the original studio song, The second is the Long piece: The GF's Jam has a very interesting instrumental interlude in the second part of the song, a mixture of boogie and country, which makes me clearly prefer it to Lee Michaels': if you choose this song, it is a candidate for my vote. I prefer Busker's song to Joe Jackson's, it has a nice rhythm and a very charming organ sound. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 27 2022 at 08:59
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Tomorrow (Monday) is the last day to participate in this poll: if an eighth forumist wants to join us, proposing his three songs!
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 09:37
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mathman0806 (George) Cheap Trick: despite its fame, I have practically never listened to this band. Good melodic pop-rock with hard-sounding guitars. I must say that the drummer has the face of an intellectual. Band-Maid: Oh, dear George, fantastic heavy metal song, but especially I could fall in love with the singer here, it hurts me to see women like this, it gives me erotic imaginations... (also the guitarist, in that dress... ) Candidate DG: although the percussionist doesn't have the charm of the previous girls, her technique is remarkable: this instrumental piece has some wonderful moments, even if it doesn't seem to me to be well blended as sound and composition. However, another candidate ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 09:48
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@Someone-else John Cale re-proposes a Velvet Underground classic arranged very well (splendid sound of electric viola and electric guitar), candidate, De Kast: sweet, romantic melodic song, oh how nice to be young! Little River Band: never heard of them, I thought they were from California, what nice relaxing music! Candidate. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 09:52
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@Christian Tredici Bacci (mispronounced name: Tredici Baci is the correct form) is a very interesting Italian-American group, while Ou, whom I listen to on spotify, I don't know if they are Italian. @Mila, have you chosen your trio? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 10:29
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I don't really think my selection match up to the time restrictions you proposed, but it is what it is. My three are... 1 - BUSKER - Lord Of The Rings (Listed on PA) a short one (2:59 Min) 2 - Grand Funk - Inside Looking Out (Not Listed on PA) A Long One (12:53 min) 3 - Lee Michaels - Hold on to Freedom (Not Listed on PA) A Med/Long One (10:55 min) ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 11:49
Well, in fact it does not respect the rules. But, ok. I'll combine n. 1 and n.3 in the short songs, and I'll put n. 2 in the long songs. ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 28 2022 at 14:58
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Best Mascotte: The Doors: The End ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 29 2022 at 08:40
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The Vote is open, Choose: - 4 songs taken from the medium-short songs - 2 songs taken from the long songs (Dont choose the songs you have nominated) ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 29 2022 at 16:34
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My podium - Short songs: 1) Band Maid - Play 2) Têtes Raides - Patalo 3) John Cale - Venus in Furs 4) Sara Renar - Jesen Honorable mentions: 5) Lamomali - Manitoumani 6) Cheap Trick - Southern Girls - Long songs: 1) Cure: Open 2) Dongyang Gozupa - Cycle Honorable mention: 3) Arthur Hnatek Trio: Monotonous Grand Prize of the Critic: Hildur Guðnadóttir - Composition for halldorophone #5 Grand Prize of the Public: Grand Funk - Inside Looking Out ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 02 2022 at 17:10
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Where are thu, brothers and sisters? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 02 2022 at 18:35
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Probably too many threads were brought up in the meantime; I hadn't seen this on the Latest Posts list for quite a while. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: December 03 2022 at 09:06
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During the week I don't have the right listening facilities nor really the time at hand, so I come to this mainly in the weekends... So, today I listened to the songs/tracks again and I stick with my comments, mostly. My choices are, for the short songs: - Ou - La Mentita - Public Service Broadcasting - Go! - Buster - Lord Of The Rings - John Cale - Venus In Furs Even four votes appears not enough, because I actually also wanted to vote for Lamomali - Manitoumani... My choices for the long songs: - Arthur Hnatek Trio: Monotonous - Dongyang Gozupa - Cycle (in stiff competition with The Little River Band) ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 04 2022 at 05:33
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Hmm yeah. As always hard to choose. These are my voting candidates for the short songs: Ou, Tredici Bacci, Fischer-Z, Buster, Lamomali, Band Maid, John Cale. That's seven, I'm afraid. The long songs: Hildur Guðnadóttir, Arthur Hnatek Trio, Dongyang Gozupa. The best rule to put some order into this is to vote for one per participant. That leaves me with Ou (although I really loved Tredici Bacci when relistening), Buster, and John Cale for the short songs, and Arthur Hnatek's trio for the long ones. Now I have to decide for Kees & George between Fischer-Z & Dongyang Gozupa or Hildur Guðnadóttir & Band Maid. Still a hard one. I think I just about prefer the first pair of these.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 10:36
Is there anybody out there? ------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 12 2022 at 17:39
| I am around. Turtle pace for me. Listening has been slow going. I have gone through about half of the short tunes. Will try to finish this week and vote. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 24 2022 at 03:36
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Finally got to all the short ones. Votes to Ou, Public Service Broadcasting, Busker, and Lamouli. |