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Topic: Are you going to buy the new Yes album(MttS)?Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: Are you going to buy the new Yes album(MttS)?
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 09:50
Well?
Replies: Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 09:52
probably not
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 10:32
Probably eventually but not right away, bearing in mind I haven't yet bought The Quest album.
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 11:27
Not a chance.....
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 12:11
No. There's far too many good new bands on which I'd prefer to spend my pension.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 12:46
I voted No, but sometimes No means Yes (and sometimes Yes is just plain No).
While I found what I listened to to be incredibly dull, and very yes formulaic, and so I voted "No" to this Yes, it's not an absolute no, more like a very, very probably no. If I go to a record store and see the album super cheap in a cassette bin, then I may buy it, but that is very unlikely. It's even less likely to see it in the 8-track cassette bin, cheap or not, especially as it has nine tracks. I am comfortable just saying No to Yes at this time.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 13:17
No . . .
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 13:23
Heard the latest tour of Jon Anderson with The Band of Geeks is AMAZING!
No: I haven't bought a Yes studio album since 90125.
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 13:47
Yes, have it preordered. I would get it at some point eventually anyway because I've got everything else as well, so why not right away. I was pleasantly surprised by The Quest, meaning it's very pleasant if not particularly great, and the new singles have been ok too.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:10
I wouldn't even want it for free.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:11
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I wouldn't even want it for free.
OMG, that's a burn.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:29
BrufordFreak wrote:
No: I haven't bought a Yes studio album since 90125.
Not even Keys to AscensionV1/2 aka KeyStudio? You'd better check that out! Best Yes since Drama, and better than anything since, IMO.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:30
Catcher10 wrote:
Not a chance.....
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:38
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I wouldn't even want it for free.
Wow, you must really hate Yes.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:49
BrufordFreak wrote:
No: I haven't bought a Yes studio album since 90125.
Same here.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:51
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I wouldn't even want it for free.
Wow, you must really hate Yes.
No of course not. Like most I like quite a lot of their 1970's output. Back then they were real artists. Not anymore. I'm not interested in hearing a 2023 album from them. Like Metallica I've given them enough chances. Every time time I've been exposed to someting Yes relased in the last couple of decades, it's been a waste of listening time. At it's best, a pale imitation of what once was. A new album by them for free, would simply be a waste of shelf space.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:52
^EDIT: I see you go in 10 seconds sooner. Kindly disregard this post.
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I wouldn't even want it for free.
Wow, you must really hate Yes.
Or maybe just modern Yes or what he knows of this album. I like some Yes and some periods of Yes and dislike others (as with many bands).
I'd accept vinyl copy, CD, official cassette tape, 8-track (whatever) for free happily. Then I might give it away to someone who I thought would like it. Or one could see it, but I rarely sell stuff (only thing other my services of mine that I ever sold was an Audi. It was my Howdy Audi).
I like lots of classic Yes (Fragile was one of my first Prog loves), but I can't think of anything that I really have liked much by Yes since then. What I heard of this new album I found incredibly dull, and Yes formulaic.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 14:56
I'd buy any YES album, including Open Your Eyes, if only for the novelty value.
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 15:49
Absolutely yes ! I agree, their last few have been disappointing, but I've been following them for 50 years, and it's important to support artists even when they may be past their prime. Hope springs eternal that they've got some interesting music left in them.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 15:57
The sensible thing to do is to listen to it first (on a streaming service like Spotify) and then decide yes or no. So I can only answer this as Maybe. Price is also a factor in the decision process. Yes is no longer a "buy without hearing it" band for me.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 17:45
Progfan1958 wrote:
Absolutely yes ! I agree, their last few have been disappointing, but I've been following them for 50 years, and it's important to support artists even when they may be past their prime. Hope springs eternal that they've got some interesting music left in them.
Maybe I'll buy the new one just for the cover.
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 18:08
no sorry
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 18:47
Progfan1958 wrote:
Absolutely yes ! I agree, their last few have been disappointing, but I've been following them for 50 years, and it's important to support artists even when they may be past their prime. Hope springs eternal that they've got some interesting music left in them.
You have been following Yes for the past 50 years, but Howe is the only member now who was in the band 50 years ago. Downs was there for a year in 1980. Then Sherwood was in and out for the past 30. But if you consider the current core group as Howe, Downes, Davison, and Sherwood, that's less than 10 years and just 2 albums together. Even for Heaven and Earth. Sherwood was an engineer and backing vocals, not a band member. Downs admits to searching old tapes for ideas, which lead to a bit of controversy on The Quest. Really don't think that this current group has had, or ever will have, a prime to be past.
Personally, it's more important to support new artists trying to reach their prime. Just my opinion.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 19:58
I have to admit I was really disappointed by the track "all connected." It's 9 minutes long when it should have been no more than three. Just a really boring track imo.
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 16 2023 at 20:31
Yes. Unlike most of the rest of you, Yes has never disappointed me.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 01:01
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Probably eventually but not right away, bearing in mind I haven't yet bought The Quest album.
Same as you.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 01:13
rushfan4 wrote:
Yes. Unlike most of the rest of you, Yes has never disappointed me.
really? Don't know what to say to that, you left me speechless here.
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 03:41
Probably eventually but not right away. I haven't listened to it and I'm not enough curious to do so in a short time.
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 04:46
Nope.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 05:06
My vote is no. I subscribe to a music streaming service and only buy if there is music that's not on the service or if I really enjoy the album. I also mainly listen to music through streaming for the convenience, but there are favorites that I would want to have on CD. I don't see that happening for this album.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 05:23
rushfan4 wrote:
Yes. Unlike most of the rest of you, Yes has never disappointed me.
That goes for me too.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 05:29
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Yes. Unlike most of the rest of you, Yes has never disappointed me.
That goes for me too.
If I set the bar low enough, they don't disappoint me either.
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 06:04
I might get it, but want to listen to it first.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 06:06
Hi,
I know this may sound kinda bad, but ... even if the lyrics were written by Pete Sinfield, I doubt I would see this. I saw the band at their best (TFTO in LA) and then in what I think was Chris' last tour here near Portland at the Casino ... a nice show, but the singer was so bad that I would not cast him in a Pasolini version of the music or film! He sang fine, but his motions and "show" was all about the oldest theatrical tricks and the most amateuristic acting on stage I have ever seen. I saw high school productions better than that!
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 07:09
Nope. I haven't bought any Yes albums after 90125.
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 08:30
Maybe/probably?
Though I think they have made decent records since the 70s ("Magnification" anyone?), the last few records I've heard have been sedentary.
Because I am such a completist, I would most likely buy if I found in the used bin at Rhino or Amoeba for less than $10.
What I've heard from Oliver's Yes sounded better than "Heaven and Earth." But that was over 10 years ago!
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 08:48
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I know this may sound kinda bad, but ... even if the lyrics were written by Pete Sinfield, I doubt I would see this. I saw the band at their best (TFTO in LA) and then in what I think was Chris' last tour here near Portland at the Casino ... a nice show, but the singer was so bad that I would not cast him in a Pasolini version of the music or film! He sang fine, but his motions and "show" was all about the oldest theatrical tricks and the most amateuristic acting on stage I have ever seen. I saw high school productions better than that!
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
See what?
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 08:49
It's a definite maybe from me.
I bought H&E but never really play it. I listened to The Quest and decided there were better things to spend my money on. I will listen to this latest one and decide then. Not holding out much hope to be honest.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 09:02
mathman0806 wrote:
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Yes. Unlike most of the rest of you, Yes has never disappointed me.
That goes for me too.
If I set the bar low enough, they don't disappoint me either.
I set the bar pretty low before hearing Open Your Eyes for the first time (especially after reading some of the derogatory comments about the album), so I wasn't disappointed back then either.
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 09:44
The music is very boring and the voice drives me mad. They have developed a sound and I don’t like it. None of these guys have ever made great interesting music with the exception of Howe. You will never get greatness from this lineup- it’s a machine trying to still make money
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 09:52
I think I'll look for samples before deciding.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 17 2023 at 18:00
Not a chance. Too many other great artists out there that need my support.
If I like the music and want to listen to it, sure. If not, then no. Same as any other band out there.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: May 18 2023 at 02:21
Tapfret wrote:
Not a chance. Too many other great artists out there that need my support.
Totally the opposite. In all honesty, Mirror to the Sky is the only 2023 prog album I'm ever likely to buy, mainly because it's destined to end up in a charity shop bargain bin at some point in the not too distant future, just like all of Genesis' albums between the years 1980 & 1997.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: May 18 2023 at 03:35
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Not a chance. Too many other great artists out there that need my support.
Totally the opposite. In all honesty, Mirror to the Sky is the only 2023 prog album I'm ever likely to buy, mainly because it's destined to end up in a charity shop bargain bin at some point in the not too distant future, just like all of Genesis' albums between the years 1980 & 1997.
I am thinking about this, and I am not so sure you will find it in the not so distant future at the bargain bin. Maybe eventually. Not because it would be any better than an 83 to 97 Genesis album but because of streaming. I haven't gone looking for bargain CDs in a while, but usually, when I did, most CDs are over 20 years old. Hard to find recent CDs and I think that has a lot to do with digital music availanility and people able to wait and decide on a physical copy. People can be more selective, which is reflected in the responses here. If someone buys, they are committed by loyalty or wanting to be a completionist.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 18 2023 at 04:41
Probably not. But since that is not an option, I'll wait for the weekend to listen to it and then vote no... (probably).
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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: May 18 2023 at 19:02
It's not YES anymore. It's bad Asia with a Minnie Mouse voice. Kinda boring.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 05:37
So, I got to listen to it, and my vote is "no".
It could be a lot worse (e.g. The Quest), and I think this album will find its admirers, but in my opinion it is lacking a lot of originality. Only the title track is interesting, both composition wise and the playing; the orchestrations sometimes a bit cliché, but at other moments quite interesting. The closing track is a nice guitar-voice Yes-kind of ballad, which is OK. It actually also shows that Davison has a good voice, as long as he's avoiding the higher pitched outings.
The rest of the album is really lacking in the song writing department and in the originality of playing: many melodies, riffs, vocal harmonies are just formulaic Yes ripp-offs and make you think of earlier works (which may be a recommendation to some...), lyrics are so-so to cringy and especially Luminosity is a good example of mediocrity.
So, imho, the best is at the end of the album, but you'll have to plow through a safe-playing, formulaic and uninspired Yes-tribute band during the first four tracks.
The second CD is superfluous: the first track is too full of different ideas, which makes it inconsistent, the two other tracks are rather uninteresting Steve Howe pop-rock ditties.
So, I won't buy it, but I must say that the title track of the album is not unpleasant to listen to, and the only one that shows that this band that calls themselves "Yes" might produce some above average music in the future...
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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 09:34
Probably. There's no hurry to buy right away, though I'll probably take a listen to some of the tracks. I don't run out and buy new albums anyway,--usually wait and see how they rate generally.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 11:48
No. Next.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 12:49
Grumpy old Rick said "Don't waste yer time & money, Stack!"
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: May 20 2023 at 13:07
Four listens in it's by far the best Davison era album and might be better than Fly From Here. Very pleasantly surprised so far.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 10:51
Of course I bought it, I am a completist and must have all Yes studio albums on CD. I ordered it on the release date this time, rather than pre-ordered like I did The Quest. Honestly, I didn't expect much from it, but unlike the previous album, Mirror to the Sky has actually gotten me excited about Yes again! It's good!
Posted By: telefunk
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 11:30
No way. This is not Yes. Have never bought anything with clueless alternative members like Trevor Rabin, Davidson or other second rate replacements.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 11:33
telefunk wrote:
No way. This is not Yes. Have never bought anything with clueless alternative members like Trevor Rabin, Davidson or other second rate replacements.
I enjoy the Rabin albums, especially 90125 and Big Generator. There, I said it.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 11:44
Cristi wrote:
telefunk wrote:
No way. This is not Yes. Have never bought anything with clueless alternative members like Trevor Rabin, Davidson or other second rate replacements.
I enjoy the Rabin albums, especially 90125 and Big Generator. There, I said it.
I would add Talk to the list. That has Endless Dream on it which is one of their best post 70s epics imo.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 11:52
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Cristi wrote:
telefunk wrote:
No way. This is not Yes. Have never bought anything with clueless alternative members like Trevor Rabin, Davidson or other second rate replacements.
I enjoy the Rabin albums, especially 90125 and Big Generator. There, I said it.
I would add Talk to the list. That has Endless Dream on it which is one of their best post 70s epics imo.
Yeah, Talk is a good album, I like the two I mentioned above more.
Posted By: telefunk
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 12:02
Yes, endless dream was pretty good!
Posted By: telefunk
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 12:05
Very courageous ;-)
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 21:20
I guess I will.
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: June 04 2023 at 21:46
No. The fact that these guys are still continuing in 2023 with only one core member left (arguably two) is just wild to me, and their modern output comes off as an empty cover version of the original band
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Posted By: Rottenprogger
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 01:32
I tried giving the new album a chance but after those first two tracks were released the little interest I had in it was completely washed away. Competently made and very unchallenging music that lifts from superior material.
I didn't get The Quest and I won't be getting this one either.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 01:38
Necrotica wrote:
No. The fact that these guys are still continuing in 2023 with only one core member left (arguably two) is just wild to me, and their modern output comes off as an empty cover version of the original band
Arguably two? I don't think so. Downes is not a core member. I guess he's Steve Howe's long time friend, despite the fact that Steve quit Asia three times . Probably these two do not argue, i imagine Geoff is not arguing with Steve and they have a good working relationship somehow.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 08:47
Not that this is an argument not to buy the latest Yes album but it's interesting that it didn't even chart in the US. The last Porcupine Tree album made it to number 90. Does this mean that PT are more popular than Yes? Or maybe a more likely explanation is that most of the people who normally would buy a Yes album are older fans who have long since given up on the band and aren't interested in new material by them (not enough to put it on the BB charts anyway).
Posted By: Necrotica
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 10:03
Cristi wrote:
Necrotica wrote:
No. The fact that these guys are still continuing in 2023 with only one core member left (arguably two) is just wild to me, and their modern output comes off as an empty cover version of the original band
Arguably two? I don't think so. Downes is not a core member. I guess he's Steve Howe's long time friend, despite the fact that Steve quit Asia three times . Probably these two do not argue, i imagine Geoff is not arguing with Steve and they have a good working relationship somehow.
Yeah, Downes was the "arguably" second one I was talking about But in any case, the current incarnation of Yes just doesn't strike me as Yes anymore. The magic is gone now
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 10:37
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Not that this is an argument not to buy the
latest Yes album but it's interesting that it didn't even chart in the
US. The last Porcupine Tree album made it to number 90. Does this mean
that PT are more popular than Yes? Or maybe a more likely explanation is
that most of the people who normally would buy a Yes album are older
fans who have long since given up on the band and aren't interested in
new material by them (not enough to put it on the BB charts
anyway).
Yes is much bigger/more popular than Porcupine Tree. The difference is no one's (except for a handful of guys at
PA) is longing for a new album from the band that calls themselves Yes in
2023. While Porcupine Tree fans knows - or has at least reasons to hope that Steven Wilson can still deliver the goods (for them).
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 05 2023 at 15:53
Saperlipopette! wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Not that this is an argument not to buy the
latest Yes album but it's interesting that it didn't even chart in the
US. The last Porcupine Tree album made it to number 90. Does this mean
that PT are more popular than Yes? Or maybe a more likely explanation is
that most of the people who normally would buy a Yes album are older
fans who have long since given up on the band and aren't interested in
new material by them (not enough to put it on the BB charts
anyway).
Yes is much bigger/more popular than Porcupine Tree. The difference is no one's (except for a handful of guys at
PA) is longing for a new album from the band that calls themselves Yes in
2023. While Porcupine Tree fans knows - or has at least reasons to hope that Steven Wilson can still deliver the goods (for them).
I don't think it's that simple. Both bands play at about the same size venues these days. I would say more older people know about and like Yes but more younger people know about and like Porcupine Tree. The last few PT albums charted higher than Yes. Yes is more famous overall but I think more people are into PT than Yes right now. If you substituted everything I said about PT with King Crimson it would still make sense.
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: June 06 2023 at 10:34
What's the definition of "core member"? Does it mean "old" or "important" or something else? And how is the concept applicable to the case of Yes?
The history of Yes is a history of line-up changes. The original line-up only lasted for two albums, and rarely did they make more than a couple of albums before somebody in the band moved on or was replaced by another (sometimes someone new, somtimes a returning, older member). Very different line-ups have managed to conjure up the "Yes spirit" and create good music.
Instead of focussing on who is currently in the band, why not focus on the music they are making? As the case of Heaven & Earth proved, having both Squire and White still in the band didn't help them to make a strong album. At that point, it made sense to argue that they should have just stopped. The Quest was better, but not great. Mirror to the Sky is much better, and personally I feel that it is a worthy Yes album - the best in a long, long time.
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 06 2023 at 10:48
No. These days I‘m mainly listening via Spotify and Bandcamp. Occasionally I‘ll buy vinyl releases of my favorite music (only this week I‘ve ordered the transparent blue vinyl version of the Golden Age of Music). This Yes release, albeit much better than I had thought, is not even close …
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: June 06 2023 at 11:21
Necrotica wrote:
Cristi wrote:
Necrotica wrote:
No. The fact that these guys are still continuing in 2023 with only one core member left (arguably two) is just wild to me, and their modern output comes off as an empty cover version of the original band
Arguably two? I don't think so. Downes is not a core member. I guess he's Steve Howe's long time friend, despite the fact that Steve quit Asia three times . Probably these two do not argue, i imagine Geoff is not arguing with Steve and they have a good working relationship somehow.
Yeah, Downes was the "arguably" second one I was talking about But in any case, the current incarnation of Yes just doesn't strike me as Yes anymore. The magic is gone now
Why wouldn't Downes be a "core" member? He first joined the band more than 40 years ago, and Mirror to the Sky is his fifth studio album with Yes. Billy Sherwood has contributed to the band in various capacities since the early 90's, and Mirror to the Sky is his fourth Yes studio album as full member. Jon Davison has been with them for over a decade already and writes or co-writes much of the material. How many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man?
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 06 2023 at 11:53
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Not that this is an argument not to buy the
latest Yes album but it's interesting that it didn't even chart in the
US. The last Porcupine Tree album made it to number 90. Does this mean
that PT are more popular than Yes? Or maybe a more likely explanation is
that most of the people who normally would buy a Yes album are older
fans who have long since given up on the band and aren't interested in
new material by them (not enough to put it on the BB charts
anyway).
Yes is much bigger/more popular than Porcupine Tree. The difference is no one's (except for a handful of guys at
PA) is longing for a new album from the band that calls themselves Yes in
2023. While Porcupine Tree fans knows - or has at least reasons to hope that Steven Wilson can still deliver the goods (for them).
I don't think it's that simple. Both bands play at about the same size venues these days. I would say more older people know about and like Yes but more younger people know about and like Porcupine Tree. The last few PT albums charted higher than Yes. Yes is more famous overall but I think more people are into PT than Yes right now. If you substituted everything I said about PT with King Crimson it would still make sense.
I see your point. I don't even acknowledge this "Yes" as Yes. The latter classic band who made Roundabout, Close to the Edge and Owner of a Lonely Heart has five times as many monthly listeners as Porcupine Tree on Spotify. Even young people listen to Yes A LOT more.
-I do love 1970's Jethro Tull an uncomparable amount more than Porcupine Tree. But if I got to choose one concert to attend to (for free, I wouldn't pay for any of them) out of the two for a 2023-gig, I'd still choose the ticket for the Porcupines. As I know (from experience) I'd be better off watching a tribute band at a local bar in regards to Tull.