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Topic: Napoleon is talked out of invading Russia …
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Subject: Napoleon is talked out of invading Russia …
Date Posted: July 13 2023 at 18:44
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…how does European and world history unfold? ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 03:20
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We would discuss this in French. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 05:40
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Or in Russian; they had plans to invade the French Empire even before Napoleon made his trip. And Europe would have become the Greatest Democracy of the World, of course. Only Great Britain would have remained independent - nobody wanted them, because they always drive on the wrong side of the road... ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 05:49
  ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Lewian wrote:Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 05:51
------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 06:22
Hi, We'll just have to wait for the new movie to find out!  ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 07:56
| Napoleon may not have been the sole designer of his jacket, but I believe he had a hand in it. |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 11:26
Nah,
I'm twisted enough of my own account. But that series looks quite
interesting, of what I read about it - will try to lay my hand/eyes on
it. Thanks. Maybe an other question could be of much more importance: How would European and World history have unfolded if Napoleon had decided to contemplate the beautiful landscapes of Elba from 1814 onwards till his - always untimely - death in 1842, accidentally overrun by a goat while picking flowers? ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 12:22
Does this question mean to imply that you think Waterloo was some kind of key nexus in World/European history? ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 14 2023 at 13:30
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Ah, no, I wasn't thinking that, but I can see why you ask, and indirectly maybe I do... Mine is mostly a layman's view on these historical things, but I actually think that that 7th Coalition War was just a last belch of Napoleon against an unstoppable movement of creating nation-states based more on culture and identity than on territorial conquests. The coalitions were maybe already an expression of that. Without the 7th Coalition War France might still have been a monarchy, but probably a weak one. That might be the biggest thing to have led to a different evolution in Europe, but probably also a minor thing in the bigger scheme of things (the creation of Nation-States, industrialisation, etc.). ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 19 2023 at 21:25
Hi, Can't say ... but Napoleon's loss at Waterloo, also had a lot of other issues around it ... for one thing, the Spanish were also involved, which might suggest that there was a lot of animosity towards him already by that time. A lot of this is in the "SHARPE" series with Sean Bean. The enemy were the French the whole time, and while I do not know Spanish history much, the series seems to suggest that the Spaniards were very important. The series kinda ends with Waterloo, even though there are a couple more episodes. The weird thing is Napoleon supposedly thinking of going right, and then going left ... and then ... I'm guessing that his troops were spread out way too much, even though, supposedly, he had more than anyone else.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 19 2023 at 22:25
I saw previews today, it looked the best of the fall films. Joaquin Phoenix has played brutal emperors before, (though he looks nothing like Bonaparte) I'm sure he'll give a very interesting performance. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 19 2023 at 23:08
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: July 19 2023 at 23:42
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Proggers aren't the only finicky folks. |