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Topic: Prog archives futurePosted By: Grumpyprogfan
Subject: Prog archives future
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 15:12
With the disruption of the server happening frequently, I would like to thank the reviewers and forum members for introducing me to music I would have never heard.
What will you do if this site fades away?
Replies: Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 15:37
RateYourMusic.com
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 15:48
I would like to set up another forum in case this one goes that will operate as something of an antonymous collective with some anarcho-syndicalist commune thrown in for good measure, where we might take turns to act as a sort of executive-officer-for-the-week. But all the decisions of that officer would have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority.... Basically, there will be no King, unless we decide to vote for one.
Mostly I am hoping to set up an online platform for artists/ creative people and people interested in the arts to connect with each other and to connect with various services, venues and institutions in their communities. I hope to help foster supportive communities that way and get more people interested in their local arts scenes as well as helping each other with a feedback and a positive and constructive online setting to share your art and develop it.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 16:06
I'd listen more often to the birds (our feathered friends, not the band...).
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 26 2023 at 22:02
I'm in my third (and likely last) phase of my life and have a ton of music to catch up on. I reckon I have enough. PA is important to me and I believe that only Sean Trane has been on here longer than me of those that are left hanging around. In some respects the site is slowly fading and that is natural. My real concern is the database of reviews and information. It would be very sad if that was lost. The forum is a good time passer.I like to chat about music informally, not interested in intellectual or music theory type debates and this seems to cater for the likes of me pretty well. Eventually everything must come to pass
"I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe, hmmm. ... attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched see Beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain..."
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 00:17
Continue to curate the finest music review and interview site there is out there, of course, he says in an utterly shameless plug for www.lazland.org
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 00:23
Keep watching 'The Prog Corner' and 'Sea Of Tranquility'.
I would be devastated if this forum ceased to exist though!
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 00:38
Me too. But if that happens, there will be a massive exodus to https://www.progressiveears.org/
Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 04:10
Although I haven't actively participated in the forums and reviews until very recently, since 2008 Progarchives has been and continues to be my go-to source for new releases, for discovering bands that would otherwise be very difficult to meet, or simply to read the opinions of so many people who share a taste for music.
I hope that PA will continue to be operational for many many years to come!.
------------- Héctor Enrique
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 07:28
Hi,
I would miss PA terribly.
However, and one of the things that I see everyday listed here sometimes, is the number of "friends" that gave us so much joy with their music passing away ... I cried hard when Daevid Allen left, when Gilly left (we shared poetry and a lot of letters), and then Edgar Froese. For me, it was the end ... I have not cried since, but I'm sure I would the moment that Peter Hammill says hello to the ethereals ... or Roy Harper, both of them the supreme poets in my way of seeing things, and the 2 folks that know how to color words better than most.
But, life is about ... accepting ... a lot of these things, and as you get older, it is tough ... to see so many friends go ... PA included specially as so many folks that post here are "hiding" and won't share email addresses for fear of some kind of Venusian fly will bite their ass!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 07:36
I'm sure Paul can get into his TARDIS and find out.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 08:12
^So THAT'S how Paul listens to so much music!
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Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time...
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 08:15
Paul's ears are bigger inside than they look from the outside.
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 08:37
Mike has added a forum over at https://awesomeprog.com/" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/ . It hasn't gained much traffic, but I am sure that it would be an available forum resource for displaced PAers.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 08:47
Hrychu wrote:
Me too. But if that happens, there will be a massive exodus to https://www.progressiveears.org/
Where we will welcome you with open arms. Doesn't have a database or reviews. Very good forum.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 09:05
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
Me too. But if that happens, there will be a massive exodus to https://www.progressiveears.org/
Where we will welcome you with open arms. Doesn't have a database or reviews. Very good forum.
Welcome with open arms??? I got banned from that site.
Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 09:14
I love this site, and would be very sad to see it go despite me not being here very long, it just seems a bit outdated, lovable, but outdated
------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time...
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 10:12
while it's outdated in design, PA is like a well worn glove that fits. Plus there is no other user oriented prog site with this breadth of reviews
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 10:36
No problem. I will spend the rest of my prog listening days at Lazland.org. Wonderful!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 10:59
But there's no forum at Lazland, is there? Being able to communicate with groups of people online is meaningful to me, and it's not like I don't do that in so-called real life either, but writing and reading often is more enjoyable to me than being in an oral situation (not that I don't like oral, espoecially when done right).
While there might be a mass exodus to progears (I tried to post there years ago but did not find it welcoming or encouraging at the time, often depends on the luck of the friendliness of the people on at the time), I would like for the forum community to have a place ready to visit even if this site goes down for along time. It's awkward descending on another site. I think we should consider setting up a forum, I believe free boards for hosting are available. Otherwise a reddit sub (I have never posted there) might work. While I and others can be a real pain in the buttocks, and some of are quite eccentric, it's the people that make this place special to me, much more-so than the content.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 11:13
Logan wrote:
But there's no forum at Lazland, is there? Being able to communicate with groups of people online is meaningful to me, and it's not like I don't do that in so-called real life either, but writing and reading often is more enjoyable to me than being in an oral situation (not that I don't like oral, espoecially when done right).
While there might be a mass exodus to progears (I tried to post there years ago but did not find it welcoming or encouraging at the time, often depends on the luck of the friendliness of the people on at the time), I would like for the forum community to have a place ready to visit even if this site goes down for along time. It's awkward descending on another site. I think we should consider setting up a forum, I believe free boards for hosting are available. Otherwise a reddit sub (I have never posted there) might work. While I and others can be a real pain in the buttocks, and some of are quite eccentric, it's the people that make this place special to me, much more-so than the content.
I'll be your friend over there! There's loads of people with similar music tastes to yours.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 11:34
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Logan wrote:
But there's no forum at Lazland, is there? Being able to communicate with groups of people online is meaningful to me, and it's not like I don't do that in so-called real life either, but writing and reading often is more enjoyable to me than being in an oral situation (not that I don't like oral, espoecially when done right).
While there might be a mass exodus to progears (I tried to post there years ago but did not find it welcoming or encouraging at the time, often depends on the luck of the friendliness of the people on at the time), I would like for the forum community to have a place ready to visit even if this site goes down for along time. It's awkward descending on another site. I think we should consider setting up a forum, I believe free boards for hosting are available. Otherwise a reddit sub (I have never posted there) might work. While I and others can be a real pain in the buttocks, and some of are quite eccentric, it's the people that make this place special to me, much more-so than the content.
I'll be your friend over there! There's loads of people with similar music tastes to yours.
Well then, thanks! Then I'll have almost as many friends as I have here.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 12:22
Logan wrote:
But there's no forum at Lazland, is there? Being able to communicate with groups of people online is meaningful to me, and it's not like I don't do that in so-called real life either, but writing and reading often is more enjoyable to me than being in an oral situation (not that I don't like oral, espoecially when done right).
While there might be a mass exodus to progears (I tried to post there years ago but did not find it welcoming or encouraging at the time, often depends on the luck of the friendliness of the people on at the time), I would like for the forum community to have a place ready to visit even if this site goes down for along time. It's awkward descending on another site. I think we should consider setting up a forum, I believe free boards for hosting are available. Otherwise a reddit sub (I have never posted there) might work. While I and others can be a real pain in the buttocks, and some of are quite eccentric, it's the people that make this place special to me, much more-so than the content.
No, no forum, and absolutely no plans to have one, either. Far too much like hard work.
I see that Ian has posted a reply, but I will state here that I have found the chaps at Progressive Ears very welcoming.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 15:47
rushfan4 wrote:
Mike has added a forum over at https://awesomeprog.com/" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/ . It hasn't gained much traffic, but I am sure that it would be an available forum resource for displaced PAers.
Sure! It is currently very rudimentary as far as forum features are concerned, but if more people were to use it, I would add more advanced functionality.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 17:04
The only feature required is a red carpet to be rolled out for the grand entrance.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 27 2023 at 17:35
Logan wrote:
The only feature required is a red carpet to be rolled out for the grand entrance.
Hi,
Dude ... ... that is so passe!
I want a carpet with all the colors in the rainbow and shining like crazy ... it would make us smile and smile some more, just to think of the unusual style and nature!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 00:17
SteveG wrote:
No problem. I will spend the rest of my prog listening days at Lazland.org. Wonderful!
Steve, you are a wonderful chap!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 01:23
Logan wrote:
The only feature required is a red carpet to be rolled out for the grand entrance.
I've had that rolled out for years, in the form of countless months of hard work. But I'm sure I could find a nice picture of a red carpet and a grand entrance to visualise the sentiment
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 01:51
lazland wrote:
I see that Ian has posted a reply, but I will state here that I have found the chaps at Progressive Ears very welcoming.
many have tried & failed.
It's an odd place, but I love it.
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 07:14
If there is a mass exodus to another site, I would think ProgGnosis would be the best fit. Their architecture supports an album database, forum, reviews, and new/upcoming releases. Unfortunately, there are no album ratings, and reviews are restricted to a handful of approved reviewers.
------------- "Instrumental music is an expression that words can never capture." -- Peter Baumann
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 09:44
lazland wrote:
SteveG wrote:
No problem. I will spend the rest of my prog listening days at Lazland.org. Wonderful!
Steve, you are a wonderful chap!
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 09:46
wiz_d_kidd wrote:
If there is a mass exodus to another site, I would think ProgGnosis would be the best fit. Their architecture supports an album database, forum, reviews, and new/upcoming releases. Unfortunately, there are no album ratings, and reviews are restricted to a handful of approved reviewers.
You mean this site?
https://www.proggnosis.com/" rel="nofollow - ProGGnosis - Progressive Rock & Fusion - Home Page
TBH, I wasn't aware that they were still alive.
I had given them money to reconstruct after they got destroyed by hackers more than a decade ago, but never really saw a good rebirth.
I don't see a full-discussion forum space (it's just a feedback space, IMHO) or a review section possibilities (maybe I'm not looking good enough)
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 10:21
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 28 2023 at 23:30
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 12:11
I'm sure with enough dedication the community would be able to find new shelter and continue to exist but the loss of the archive and all reviews posted in it would be a terrible shame
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 13:18
What would I do? Spend more time on PE. :P And also rate your music and prog websites I rarely check out. Maybe get a new hobby too (maybe Polka music).
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 14:54
From a forum perspective, spend my time at Steve Hoffman Forums. There are hundreds of topics there to discuss, and regarding prog topics there are many, many.
I'd be fine......I still have my memories of what PA was like when I first joined.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 29 2023 at 14:59
^ Oh yeah, I forgot about SHF. Them too. ;)
Posted By: ProggnosisDB
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 15:05
IF ProgArchives goes away - and I certainly hope it stays - - then Proggnosis would remain the only data driven dedicated prog/fusion site on the web.
Reviews, creating and editing content (artists, releases) is done via web pages and an editor not so different than the one you see on this forum.
There is a section in the forum for editors and reviews but the forum itself could not manage to replace the wonderful one you have here.
One reason is that I pay for my hosting at retail rates and I do not draw more then $100 per 18 months in google ad revenue! It costs money to host and a very active forum, especially one that allows photos and files such as this forum consumes a lot of storage and therefore raises the cost.
I am sure I could code a ratings scheme and perhaps other features if we had the folks to contribute the content. Still, the loss of ProgArchvies would be felt around the world and I hope it does not happen.
If you know for fact that this is coming, please give me a heads-up so I can to my best to provide for a soft-landing for any who wish to play at Proggnosis. [email protected] or here via DM on the forum.
Regards, Doug Silver (DBSilver)
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 21:47
Maybe a benefactor can come in and support the forums!
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 24 2023 at 21:59
King of Loss wrote:
Maybe a benefactor can come in and support the forums!
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 25 2023 at 00:00
lazland wrote:
Continue to curate the finest music review and interview site there is out there, of course, he says in an utterly shameless plug for www.lazland.org
Yes, utterly and completely shameless, is he!!
Well done, I wasn't aware of your website! Cheers!