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Topic: How old are you? At what age did you discover prog
Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Subject: How old are you? At what age did you discover prog
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 17:08
I'm fifteen years old, and I discovered this wonderful genre about two years ago, thanks to the third studio album by Focus. When it comes to musical tastes, I'm the odd one out (both in my family and at my school). In Argentina (my country), the artists most listened to by teenagers are María Becerra, Tini, Lali, Peso Pluma, a sort of "new wave of cumbia" that includes artists like Ke Personajes, and other horrors that I can't recall right now.
There is also a large group that listens to our national rock. Artists like Calamaro, Spinetta, Charly, Cerati, Los Piojos, etc. Within that group, there is a fairly large minority that also listens to Argentine rock from the seventies (Pescado Rabioso, Invisible, Los Gatos, La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros, Manal, Aquelarre, Sui Generis, Serú Girán, among others).
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 17:20
I'm 28 in July this year. I discovered prog rock circa 2013-2014 by looking up samples used by my fave hip hop artist Medium. I'm one of those super rare cases of people discovering prog rock online! Also, Spinetta's music is fricking amazing. In my country he's really little known and it's a shame. "El anillo del capitan Beto" is one of the greatest songs of all time imho. So, double high five I guess!
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Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 17:49
Spinetta is one of those artists who should have enormous worldwide recognition. Our most well-known musician is Piazzolla (who should be in this forum, at least in the Prog-related category). I believe Spinetta should have the same recognition as Astor. They were the greatest musicians in our history.
Here in Latin America, "El Flaco" Spinetta is very well known, and outside the continent, he is a cult artist, but not as well known (which still makes me very happy).
From your profile on the forum, I assume you are Polish. Despite there being a relatively large Polish diaspora in Argentina, Polish music is practically unknown here, and that is very sad. I can say that the little Polish music I have heard is amazing. SBB, Laboratorium, Cytrus, Niemen, Exodus, and Riverside (a band with quite a large following here) are fantastic artists who should have more recognition here and in the world.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 18:05
Polish prog used to be on an inpressively high level back in the 70's and early 80's. Nowadays, it's a mixed bag and I feel my country's local music scene is really lacking in the more retro prog bands like Änglagård or Wobbler.
The thing about Czesław Niemen is that he was the first and only Mellotron owner in all of Poland and the fact he used it to make ambitious prog music instead of wasting it on schlager, pop or whatever, brings me to tears of joy. B)
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 18:11
I'm 57 now and discovered prog at age 12 in 1979 (when according to most it was just in full decline). Happy to see Astor Piazzolla mentioned; his Nuevo Tango Hora Zero is a top 5 of all time album for me. Otherwise I don't know much Argentinian stuff (Bubu are quite popular in this forum). Will check out Spinetta!
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Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 18:25
In my opinion, Bubu was the pinnacle of national rock history, and El Cortejo de un Día Amarillo is one of the greatest works in the history of prog. Unfortunately, they are not known outside of this community. Zero Hour by Piazzolla is a truly impressive album. The quintet at its best. Piazzolla's music in the second half of the eighties was superb in every sense. I recommend the music of Pescado Rabioso and Invisible (Spinetta's bands). Serú Girán and Sui Generis are worth at least a listen (both bands featured Charly García, another incredibly important figure in Latin American music). MIA is a spectacular progressive rock band that I highly recommend, especially their album Cornostípticum.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 19:12
I am 61. I discovered prog when a friend of mine introduced me to two Triumvirat albums-Illusions On A Double Dimple and Old Loves Die Hard in the spring of 1985, when I was a young 22 years old living in my hometown of Prescott, Ontario, Canada. I had been a little aware of prog before that but it was Triumvirat that opened me up to taking it seriously as an interest-in hearing that I felt I was in touch with "the real thing", and my life was changed.....
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 23:23
62. I discovered prog when I was about 13 but didn't like it much. Became an ELP fan at 15 after they released Fanfare For The Common Man (this was played to death on the radio back in 1977 so you couldn't miss it!). I became more of a general prog fan after I started working in the 80's after leaving college in 1984/5 and had a bit of spare cash in my popcket. IQ, Marillion, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Yes and Genesis were well on my radar by this time but probably not a lot else. The process is ever ongoing...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 05 2024 at 23:32
Fifty-seven. Bought Hemispheres when I was about eleven just based on the cover. Didn't understand the music but I listened in fascination, kept it, and a few years later I was glad I did.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 01:25
63. I've been listening to prog since I was 15, but it wasn't labeled prog, back then, where I grew up (Kansas). Zappa, Rush, Kansas, Jethro Tull, Steely Dan, and Yes were played a lot. Had many friends and great music stores that introduced me to much music.
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 02:40
64 - The first prog album I heard was Brain Salad Surgery by ELP, borrowed and taped from a friend at school.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 03:27
I wish my 15 year old listened to prog rock
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 06:50
Hi,
I was already into a lot of classical music, and specially some of the more adventurous ones of the modern days, that by the time I heard pop music (Brazil 1965) on a teeny weeny radio, I thought it was stupid, and silly ... but later amended the idea as more, and better works appeared. When I first saw that someone had done a version of Mussorgsky, I immediately went out and got the LP and I guess that brought me into what we consider "progressive" though at the time ... there was no such thing.
To me, they were folks my age, doing something that they could not do on Sunday Nights on campus, when so many over rated classical music folks do their concerts and get paid more than a lot of rock bands ... it wasn't hard to notice that there were some greats in rock music that were not appreciated in classical music ... can you imagine Keith bringing Tarkus' score to a professor? Who do you think you are? And how can you consider that important when it has little theme continuity for us to follow? And what makes you think you can compose something like that and think it is a piano concert? AND, of course, Keith will be remembered and played far into the eons a lot more than that moron of a professor that had no ability or taste in music whatsoever!
I've never looked back, since! No one can "define" or "specify" that something or other is not good, or is not worthy of being there.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 07:51
The first prog album I ever bought was Tubular Bells in 1973 and at the age of 64 now, I'm Too Old to Rock & Roll, Too Young to Die.
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Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 07:59
I'm 65. Back in the early to mid 70's, there was no such thing as prog. It was all just rock 'n roll. The FM airwaves were filled with Yes, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, ELP, etc. and they filled arenas and other concert venues just like any other rock band of the time. I don't recall when I heard the term "prog" or "progressive rock", but it was much later.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 09:02
I'm 29. I've listened to Rush and Camel and a few other bands since early childhood (my dad isn't really a proghead but still likes some artists in the genre and made sure they were played regularly during family car rides) but I didn't really become aware of the concept, let alone become a fan of progressive rock until late 2012, approximately; I was 18 at the time.
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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 09:15
I'm 60 this year and a mate introduced me to Rush around 1979/1980.
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 09:36
Became aware of prog in 2004l when a friend who was really into King Crimson, Tool, Peaches, etc.. and I swapped mix CDs. I thought his tunes were interesting but it wasn't until 2007 when I got a copy of 'The Yes Album' and 'Duke' that I really started to think as a genre it was something different, and in 2008 a copy of 'Fragile' sent me deeeeeeep into a Yes obsession that lead deeply into prog.
I am 36 now. I still listen to prog (Moon Safari are playing in my headphones now) but I am long past the point when whether or not something was prog was in itself a selling feature of the band. In fact I find I am finding it harder to connect with most new prog releases, and I think the change is in me more than the genre.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 10:08
I'm in my mid thirties and I've been into prog since I was 12. I've been on this site for most of the time. Almost 20 years!!!!
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 10:37
I am 59 and was introduced to GFTO by my cousin when I was 13.
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 10:52
I'm 43 and the first prog album that I bought was The Division Bell by Pink Floyd, which should be in the year that it was released.
However, I had probably listened to some other prog bands/albums before. I recall that my older brother had the album Heavy Horses by Jethro Tull, for instance, and I must have listened to it a couple of times at least.
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 11:03
I'm not far off 70, and first discovered prog back in 1971 when I was 15.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 14:56
Almost 61 (no big bother or sister, but two younger bros).
1969 Brussels , first taste: Tull's Stand Up (and Hair's OST) >> my dad's albums, though he was in jazz & classic (I mobed to Beatles & Stones afterwards) Spring 1974 Montreal , first album bought Harmonium's debut (every kid in school bought it). Fall 74 Toronto , Crime of the Century >> my own money (newspaper delivery route), saw the arresting artwork in the record shop next to my school
in the next few months, ITCOTCK, DSOTM, ITLOG&P, SEBTP, LSOHHB, TAAB (yes, I liked all of these long album titles), all bought on advice of the coolest record store owner ever (Record on Wheels in Mississauga)
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 06 2024 at 16:10
I will be 57 in a couple of months. I was probably 13 or 14 when I first started listening to prog. That was from the radio and a local once a week program that played the "best in progressive rock and jazz fusion". Though my interest stemmed by an earlier interest in album cover art. My local library had the Album Cover Album, which had had a number of Richard Dean and Hipgnosis covers.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 01:06
I am 64. My first tastes of prog date from 1970 or so, when I found a single "Feelings / Italian Concerto" by Ekseption. I played Italian Concerto over and over again; I loved it. In March 1971, at age 11, I heard "A Girl Named You" by Supersister, then, some months later, "Hocus Pocus" by Focus. When I came to know Pink Floyd in June 1972, I turned to prog. The first album I bought was Dark Side of the Moon, a few weeks after its release.
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 11:27
I'm 57.
I discovered what's now known as prog when I bought albums by Led Zeppelin and Supertramp in 1980, Deep Purple, Styx, Queen, and Rush in 1981, and Genesis and the Moody Blues in 1982.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 14:40
I'm 5 and I discovered prog when I was about 12......
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Posted By: Archisorcerus
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 14:56
Catcher10 wrote:
I'm 5 and I discovered prog when I was about 12...... |
So your adventure is regressive, rather than progressive?
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 15:13
Catcher10 wrote:
I'm 5 and I discovered prog when I was about 12...... |
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 07 2024 at 15:30
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 07:19
I'm 55. I discovered it through listening to my Dad's album collection. First heard it when I was a kid at the age of 6 without knowing what it was. Started really getting into it around the age of 14. It was still not called prog then in my little bubble. Local radio stations just lumped it in with classic rock at the time. Some days I like to pretend I'm a traffic cone.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 08:02
progaardvark wrote:
I'm 55. I discovered it through listening to my Dad's album collection. First heard it when I was a kid at the age of 6 without knowing what it was. Started really getting into it around the age of 14. It was still not called prog then in my little bubble. Local radio stations just lumped it in with classic rock at the time. Some days I like to pretend I'm a traffic cone. | You're 55, but someday you like to pretend you're a 5 year old
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 A total trainwreck of a forced attempt at humor. You're just not funny. Your "jokes" are load of cringe.*
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 08:35
I'm 49 years old and have been listening to Prog since I was about ten years old. So that's almost four decades of listening to thousands of releases. Quite the journey!
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 11:16
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 12:04
I greatly appreciate those ad hominem "arguments" :)
I don't have to be a baker to say the bread tastes like dogshіt. You know that saying well.*
*disclaimer: I wasn't "sober" when I said that (sleep deprivation)
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 12:53
^ As you say, it is a matter of taste: if someone likes the taste of dogsh*t he will say to the baker that he likes his bread...
I am two years old, I don't know how to read yet, but I prefer dadaist poetry over animated gifs. (It is a matter of taste, not quality!)
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Posted By: Sebastianmoto
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 14:59
I'm 23 (24 this month) and as far back as I can really remember I listened to Tubular Bells every night on my Dad's 2nd gen iPod whilst going to sleep. My parents have one of those early years books where I scrawled my 3 favorite songs as "Tubular Bells", "Mr Blue Sky" and "Nightmare before christmas." I don't know which track 'Nightmare before christmas' might refer to, but in looking up the OST I found out that it was composed by Danny Elfman, and despite not having listened to Oingo Boingo I do enjoy the fact all three are represented on this site in some way.
I didn't 'discover' prog until mid-2021, at which time I had been listening to Kylie Minogue everyday for maybe 2 years. I worked in a place where they would typically play rock radio stations, and I began to enjoy rock more. I had been listening to Roundabout by Yes around the same time as I had been introduced to it via some friends who liked the show JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (where it is used as the end theme of the first series). I was listening to Roundabout and the Youtube auto-play then played Owner of a lonely heart, which I recognised from the radio, and I thought it was odd how different the two tracks were and as I do I looked up Yes on Wikipedia. There I read one of the genre tags for 'Progressive rock' and the single neuron lit up in my brain from the one time I had heard the term before when my dad used it to describe Mike Oldfield. I looked up Tubular Bells and of course, it's tagged as "Progressive rock," so I start looking up other artists I listened to and I had been listening to Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel which lead me to search "Peter Gabriel Progressive rock," the first result being the PA page for Peter Gabriel, and as this is the ultimate prog rock resource I found my way into the wider realm of prog through this site, which I am ever thankful for.
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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 16:57
Hrychu wrote:
I don't have to be a baker to say the bread tastes like dogshіt. You know that saying well. |
Are you intentionally trying to be a dickhead because you're doing it quite well.
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Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 21:17
54!!! first encounter with Prog was in 1982-83. An uncle of mine which still loves prog brought tapes contained: Yes: Drama Pink Floyd: Animals Kansas; 2 for a show a mix tape with songs from Jethro Tull and Rush on the same tape. I was 12-13 Years old did not speak a word of English. I was born in the Dominican Republic. I never was the same ever!!!!
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 10 2024 at 22:11
@Jeffro. Well, I can tell you that you witnessed the side effects of my ruined sleep hygiene. :( Looking back, my posts really came off as harsh. Lack of sleep can be dangerous.
It's no joke. I actually had sleep deprivation hallucinations!
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 11 2024 at 13:16
I'm 54. I was 15 (1985), I guess, when I first really discovered it. I knew of Yes (initially because of my dad who had The Yes Album but that's it for them) and then Genesis and the other big name stuff but I think when I was 15 was when I figured out it was all called progressive rock in part because of music books (a guitar book that had a section with Robert Fripp and a rock encyclopedia that my ex step mother got me if I'm not mistaken). In late 1983 (when I was still 13) I got the 90125 by Yes and soon realized it was the same band who did the Yes album. Around the same time someone got me the shapes album by Genesis on cassette. It wasn't until the summer of 1984 when I really started to explore more Yes and then eventually Genesis and Rush etc. I guess you could say getting into prog was a gradual process and not something that happened over night but by mid 85 I was well on my way to being a prog fan (although I still listened to other stuff and actually still do). I actually feel rather lucky to have discovered prog when I did because prog wasn't exactly very well known (or at least the term wasn't used much) in that decade. I kind of feel like I sneaked in through the back door.
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Posted By: SleepingFinger
Date Posted: June 16 2024 at 08:37
I became aware of Prog in my early 20s, but only started listening seriously and critically recently at age 34. I remember hearing Genesis’ song The Musical Box and being blow away by it. Recently, I’ve been investigating a lot of the Canterbury scene and have been really enjoying Egg, Gong, Soft Machine, and bands of that variety. Though not a Canterbury band, I’ve really been getting into The Cardiacs as well. I actually come from a Punk background and find them to be a good entry point for someone like myself.
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Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: June 23 2024 at 18:44
64. I used to make mixtapes from AM radio with a little tape recorder and a plastic microphone. I remember a lot of the songs I grabbed - Fire by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Jump Into the Fire by Harry Nilsson, Liar by Three Dog Night, Hold Your Head Up by Argent, Green Eyed Lady by Sugarloaf... I wasn't aware of it at the time but a lot of them were "Proggy". But there was one song at the time that kept eluding me - Roundabout. Every time I heard it I was somewhere I couldn't get to my tape recorder. Then one day I was in my room and I turned on the radio just to hear the last few notes. I was so pissed that I missed it I punched a hole in my wall. It was released in November '71 and my birthday is in January so I was either 11 or 12.
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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 09:36
53. Listened to various bits of prog over the years without really knowing it was prog, then got Genesis’ Platinum Collection in 2000(ish) and it opened my ears!
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Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:29
Hrychu wrote:
I'm 28 in July this year. I discovered prog rock circa 2013-2014 by looking up samples used by my fave hip hop artist Medium. I'm one of those super rare cases of people discovering prog rock online! Also, Spinetta's music is fricking amazing. In my country he's really little known and it's a shame. "El anillo del capitan Beto" is one of the greatest songs of all time imho. So, double high five I guess! |
I agree! love the album and the fantastic song!. Do you know Spinetta Jade?, Almendra and Pescado Rabioso?.
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Posted By: DarksideofAbel
Date Posted: June 25 2024 at 16:31
I become a prog fan at the age of 13-14 years old after listening to a tape of Rush, Kansas, Jethro Tull and Floyd. 40 years later and I am still loving the music.
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Posted By: funkynothingness
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 05:49
I'm 17 but was 13 when I discovered prog. The first band I ever got into was actually Rush. My dad was shocked when I started playing Hemispheres in the car because he's a fan too and started listening to them around my age! I guess it just passes down.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 26 2024 at 07:34
DarksideofAbel wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
I'm 28 in July this year. I discovered prog rock circa 2013-2014 by looking up samples used by my fave hip hop artist Medium. I'm one of those super rare cases of people discovering prog rock online! Also, Spinetta's music is fricking amazing. In my country he's really little known and it's a shame. "El anillo del capitan Beto" is one of the greatest songs of all time imho. So, double high five I guess! |
I agree! love the album and the fantastic song!. Do you know Spinetta Jade?, Almendra and Pescado Rabioso?. | I love the first three Spinetta Jade albums. Invisible's and Almendra's output is patchy. Some songs I love, some not so much. «A estos hombres tristes» is an incredible song for instance. As for Pescado Rabioso, I can't get into that band.
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Posted By: para666
Date Posted: August 01 2024 at 09:12
I'm 20 and I discovered prog when I was 17. My very first album was Synthesis by Synthesis. I can't say I was hooked but I started seriously listening to prog just this week.(function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8ac6c3161d286672',t:'MTcyMjUyNTEwMC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium; visibility: ;">
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 01 2024 at 20:20
Hi,
I was 15 in Brazil when music picked me up, though I had already been listening and liking a lot of the classical music dad had, and specially one Turandot version with Renata Tebaldi, Birgit Nilsson, Mario del Monaco and Leinsdorf directing ... gawd that was some far out work. Also enjoyed a lot of Stravinsky, Debussy and many others.
I'm now 73, and yeah ... the weird thing is that a lot of the old "progressive" doesn't turn me on anymore ... I think my view on a lot of that work is not as swindled/impressed as we were when we were teenagers. I really only like one YES album (TFTO), I like ELP, I love AD2, Can, Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream ... I have never tired of those Germans, and still love Mani and Guru Guru. My appreciation for a lot of the Fillmore/Haight-Ashbury thing has increased as some more stuff is "found" and many of them are just far out flights to everywhere ... the kind that many of us do not exactly spend time on ... just heard a couple of long things by Quicksilver Messenger Service, and they were outstanding ...
The sad things for me, is when folks that have a massive history ... start trashing stuff from their old days ... I really lost a lot of respect for Dave and Roger, when they said most of their early stuff was crap ... and Dave, of course, things his 3 notes on a song, are more important ... and Roger, of course, just forgot to have fun and keep his mouth shut. I miss Rick. I enjoy what Nick is doing a LOT! A statement that some of that old stuff was not crap. Was great!
Mostly these days ... just new stuff ... I'm not even buying a whole lot anymore ... though it's hard to not get Gert Emmens. And some of that Middle East music Space Pirate Radio is playing is getting really far out ... a shame that the English hate it when others do it better!
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 07:24
I am 67 and I discovered Progressive Rock in 1971...however people were calling it Art Rock at that time. My parents were musicians and that helped immensely if I had any questions about the music and it's influences...or where it derived from.
Progressive Rock didn't seem to evolve into something internationally successful until 1972...although it may have been very popular in different parts of the world...I just can't recall.
What I do recall are pictures of Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Ian Anderson, and others on the front cover of Rock magazines such as Hit Parader, Circus and Creem..etc.
Around the time of Thick As A Brick it seemed to really take off becoming a global impact...resulting in television appearances and headlining stadiums...and eventually as time progressed huge festivals like California Jam in 74'. By then Progressive Rock was as big as sliced bread and I liked it very much..however I seemed to be more a fan of underground European Progressive Rock...for example...Gong, Hatfield and the North, Caravan, Renaissance, ...several Krautrock bands..that I discovered in bargin bins for $1.99 on the United Artist label in the U.S.
Passport Records , Billingsgate Records etc and that's when I began placing special orders for it through Jem Records on Kennedy Blvd in North and South Plainfield N.J. and Archie Patterson who was affiliated with Green World on the west coast. I used to find these catalogs ...somehow?? And order all sorts of underground music through mail order. I became much more obsessed with underground Prog which at the time appeared to be unwanted or unheard of.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 04 2024 at 07:54
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
. ... Passport Records , Billingsgate Records etc and that's when I began placing special orders for it through Jem Records on Kennedy Blvd in North and South Plainfield N.J. and Archie Patterson who was affiliated with Green World on the west coast. I used to find these catalogs ...somehow?? And order all sorts of underground music through mail order. I became much more obsessed with underground Prog which at the time appeared to be unwanted or unheard of. |
Hi,
For Guy Guden and I, a lot of trips to Moby Disk (Van Nuys at the time) ... and Tower at the Strip and then the Warehouse in Westwood, because of their selection for jazz, soundtracks and other odd ball things.
It wasn't a bad drive, since in those days Ventura Highway (a theme song for some time!!!) it took exactly 81 minutes from Goleta to 5th and Hill in LA, where we could get Melody Maker on a little store that had all kinds of magazines and newspapers from everywhere. Eventually, when Guy finally was on the air regularly and on his show (anniversaries on Jan 27th each year since 1974), all of those labels were played ... and that first Billingsgate album I remember seeing? Neu ... the first album! Archie Patterson I did not meet until way later 1995 at the first Magma show here in Portland ... and I wanted to do an interview for PA ... but somehow it never clicked ... I think he liked being alone, or distanced from the folks ... that became known as "prog" or "progressive" ... and my only issue was not being able to buy more stuff from him, I simply could not afford it! Guy has played a lot of his stuff, and Gandalf has always been in the non-existent "play list" for Guy's shows, that usually change every week, depending on what he gets ... with the nod always going to the brand new releases, and the two most important ones were Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, both of which got FULL attention on Guy's show ... I don't any of us here have ever heard Mirage in its entirety, and then later done in the Guy Guden special style ... a total treat.
BTW, I did do a review of his book EUROCK, the compilation of all his magazines over the years ... an exhausting read, but a far out document ... and folks still have no idea of how intelligent Richard Pinhas is, and how Heldon did what they did musically! Those philosophical bits are hard to read and understand, but they are intense.
Still, one of my favorite moments with Guy (several years roommates) ... was one evening he went on the air and he had a just arrived copy of TLLDOB and he played it in its entirety right from the start at midnight, and then played it gain later, at 2 or 3 because of the many requests ... I kinda doubt that anyone on PA has ever had an experience like that ... on a commercial radio FM station that was already number 1 in the area.
I miss those days, some, as the finding new music and bands was neat ... and a far out experience. Today, my finding new things, is just on my headset ... and going through last months top list ... and in the end, it is not as exciting as having a friend to enjoy it with!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 22:29
moshkito wrote:
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
. ... Passport Records , Billingsgate Records etc and that's when I began placing special orders for it through Jem Records on Kennedy Blvd in North and South Plainfield N.J. and Archie Patterson who was affiliated with Green World on the west coast. I used to find these catalogs ...somehow?? And order all sorts of underground music through mail order. I became much more obsessed with underground Prog which at the time appeared to be unwanted or unheard of. |
Hi,
For Guy Guden and I, a lot of trips to Moby Disk (Van Nuys at the time) ... and Tower at the Strip and then the Warehouse in Westwood, because of their selection for jazz, soundtracks and other odd ball things.
It wasn't a bad drive, since in those days Ventura Highway (a theme song for some time!!!) it took exactly 81 minutes from Goleta to 5th and Hill in LA, where we could get Melody Maker on a little store that had all kinds of magazines and newspapers from everywhere. Eventually, when Guy finally was on the air regularly and on his show (anniversaries on Jan 27th each year since 1974), all of those labels were played ... and that first Billingsgate album I remember seeing? Neu ... the first album! Archie Patterson I did not meet until way later 1995 at the first Magma show here in Portland ... and I wanted to do an interview for PA ... but somehow it never clicked ... I think he liked being alone, or distanced from the folks ... that became known as "prog" or "progressive" ... and my only issue was not being able to buy more stuff from him, I simply could not afford it! Guy has played a lot of his stuff, and Gandalf has always been in the non-existent "play list" for Guy's shows, that usually change every week, depending on what he gets ... with the nod always going to the brand new releases, and the two most important ones were Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze, both of which got FULL attention on Guy's show ... I don't any of us here have ever heard Mirage in its entirety, and then later done in the Guy Guden special style ... a total treat.
BTW, I did do a review of his book EUROCK, the compilation of all his magazines over the years ... an exhausting read, but a far out document ... and folks still have no idea of how intelligent Richard Pinhas is, and how Heldon did what they did musically! Those philosophical bits are hard to read and understand, but they are intense.
Still, one of my favorite moments with Guy (several years roommates) ... was one evening he went on the air and he had a just arrived copy of TLLDOB and he played it in its entirety right from the start at midnight, and then played it gain later, at 2 or 3 because of the many requests ... I kinda doubt that anyone on PA has ever had an experience like that ... on a commercial radio FM station that was already number 1 in the area.
I miss those days, some, as the finding new music and bands was neat ... and a far out experience. Today, my finding new things, is just on my headset ... and going through last months top list ... and in the end, it is not as exciting as having a friend to enjoy it with!
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Absolutely fascinating!!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 09 2024 at 12:51
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
... Absolutely fascinating!! |
Hi,
There is a lot more ... and really hard to catalog, though the 330 hours of Space Pirate Radio that survived in the 120m cassettes until around 2000, when I was starting to lose some shows. In the following years I mp3'd all that was in good condition ... although sadly some shows that I remember simply did not make it ... and a special one that I loved dearly and miss terribly was one with Daevid Allen's album (Wise Man in Your Heart) .... where Guy basically did a "Ummaguma" (my term!!!) type cover with voice/record/voice/record several times ... and by the time you heard the recording of his first go through on its 3rd or 4th turn, the whole thing was just out of this world ... but there were a lot of comedy bits that he did (with full studio at the station ... !!!) ... where he played voice on voice to create stories and various fun things ... Guy now has a complete copy of those shows on mp3. I never gave away or sold any of his shows, one of his fears, and I leave it to him to distribute those shows as he sees fit now. I've also arealy piled up over 400 hours of the Twitch version since 2019 and finally dropped a few of them recently ... sometimes I like to listen just to find out what is new ... and really, it's too much, and I can't afford it!
To call/consider Guy's show "progressive" feels like an oddity ... it is by far, the least formatted show around, although these days, I think his beginning and ending is starting to fade in my mind ... and the way he mixes and matches things, makes most of the folks doing the equivalent of "radio" out of step with the real concept of what radio was and has gone ... to the dregs as I like to smile with ... all small songs, and horrible mixes ... but in the end, I am not sure that any of those folks KNOWS and REMEMBERS so much music, like Guy does, and it covers soundtracks, to various other singers and material, thus hearing some stuff from the 60's is not out of line ... it's weird, but it fits ... and then you hear something else, and then something else with eastern electronics, and then a Stackridge (Korgis actually) about the Beatles, and then Lazarus ... and then ... in other words, there is no "format" in Guy's shows and this is what I miss the most in the listing each month and the comments .... and the main reason why I have just about stopped listening to any of the "progressive" shows out there on the Net, because they are way too married to the commercial sounding material ... and let me tell you ... we haven't even heard Guy's singalongs ... hilarious! Oh wait, prog'rs don't like/think comedy is ... nothing more than silly. Heck, The Bonzo Dog Band was more progressive than many bands, and they could do any kind of music! (Neil Innes came from there!) ...
It's a life, I tell you ... very enjoyable and never the same ... just the way we don't like our music, when so many fans get upset that the next album is not as good and doesn't sound the same!
So yeah, it's been a life based on "progressive" and never giving in to the commercial thing. A fight to the death on that, even if I lose ... at least I didn't quit!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Buddhabreath
Date Posted: August 09 2024 at 16:43
I'm 63. When I was in High School, some "prog" bands were mainstream. Jethro Tull was my band at the time and I went to see them in concert with Gentle Giant opening. Gentle Giant was a revelation, and I started buying their albums and then it was straight down the rabbit hole. That concert would have been 1975 or 1976. Georgetown University in Washington D.C. use to have a fantastic radio station (Their moto was "One Nation Underground") whereby I discovered lots of great music. Finally meeting the proprietor of Wayside/Cuneiform at a record store opened up even more avenues of progressive and eclectic music. I was an early customer and use to go to his house to pick up my records! :-)
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 09 2024 at 16:54
1971, I was 11 years-old. Heard Aqualung, Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, The Yes Album and Fragile on the FM stations in Detroit (where they'd play whole albums and album sides). Not to mention albums from King Crimson, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, The Who, etc. Nearly every band was proggy at the time.
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: August 10 2024 at 00:07
17, discovered at 15. I kept looking for long songs, which led me here.
------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time...
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