Top-rated RYM Prog albums by year 1969-2021
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Topic: Top-rated RYM Prog albums by year 1969-2021
Posted By: zwordser
Subject: Top-rated RYM Prog albums by year 1969-2021
Date Posted: November 24 2024 at 16:26
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Thought it might be cool to compare the PA top list I made yesterday to a similar list from Rateyourmusic.com. I'm including both the "Progressive Rock" and "Progressive Rock Influenced" categories, because that seems to include the same subgenres as on PA (such as Jazz Rock/Post Rock), but I excluded anything that is not listed on PA (most of it seems to be only loosely related anyway) or listed as "Proto Prog" or "Prog Related". Again, the overall rating in the Prog/Prog Influenced category is listed. A few the same as on PA, but lots of differences and more obscure bands!
1969: In The Court of the Crimson King by King Crimson, #2. 1970: Third by Soft Machine, #46 1971: Meddle by Pink Floyd, #8 1972: Close to the Edge by Yes, #6 1973: Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd, #3 1974: Red by King Crimson, #5 1975: Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, #1 1976: El Jardin de Los Presentos by Invisible, #10 1977: Animals by Pink Floyd, #4 1978: Hemispheres by Rush, #39 1979: The Wall by Pink Floyd, #24 1980: Permanent Waves by Rush, #66 1981: Discipline by King Crimson, #11 1982: Peter Gabriel by Peter Gabriel, #148 1983: Depois Do Fim by Bacamarte, #206 1984: Obras de Violeta Parra by Los Jaivas, #188 1985: Misplaced Childhood by Marillion, #265 1986: The Ghost Trade by Camberwell Now, #162 1987: Clutching at Straws by Marillion, #159 1988: A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window by Cardiacs, #129 1989: Nothingface by Voivod, #124 1990: Naked City by John Zorn, #86 1991: Parallels by Fates Warning, #456 1992: Hybris by Anglagard, #183 1993: II by Kingston Wall, #218 1994: Птица by Auktyon, #145 (Auktyon listed on PA but not this album for some reason( ??). 1995: Disco Volante by Mr. Bungle, #338 (three artists ahead of this not on PA) 1996: Ænima by Tool, #22 1997: Plays Standards by Ground Zero, #134 1998: How To Measure a Planet by The Gathering, #233 1999: Still Life by Opeth, #23 2000: Lightbulb Sun by Porcupine Tree, #156 2001: Blackwater Park by Opeth, #18 2002: Going Down Swingin' by Sweep the Leg Johnny, #90 2003: De-Loused in the Comatorium by the Mars Volta, #48 2004: Shibuboshi by Shibusashurabu, #35 2005: Ghost Reveries by Opeth, #32 2006: 10000 Days by Tool, #143 2007: Fear of a Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree, #75 2008: Watershed by Opeth, #171 (one band/album above this, not listed on PA) 2009: Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré by Magma, #153 (one band/album above, not listed on PA) 2010: Omnipotent Youth Society by Omnipotent Youth Society, #180 (one band ahead, not on PA) 2011: Sen Balık Değilsin ki by Gevende, #467 2012: The Death Defying Unicorn by Motorpsycho, #299 2013: The Raven That Refused to Sing (and Other Stories) by Steven Wilson, #248 2014: Hold Me Forever by Buckethead, #227 2015: Act IV, Rebirth and Reprise by The Dear Hunter, #250 2016: Nonagon Infinity by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, #27 2017: Polygondwanaland by King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, #113 2018: Book of Beri'ah by John Zorn, (can't find on overall list, maybe too few ratings) 2019: Schlagenheim by Black Midi, #45 2020: Inside the Cable Temple by Omnipotent Youth Society, #150 2021: Cavalcade by Black Midi, #65 ------------- Z |
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 24 2024 at 21:29
| Just too many Pink Floyd fans!! You can safely ignore any year where they have a major release. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 25 2024 at 10:02
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I spend an insane amount of time making a series of polls going through the top 5000 or so albums in RYM and try to include ALL listed in PA regardless of how RYM classifies because one misses a lot in PA if one limits it by adding genres at PA. For instance, Radiohead in Crossover here is super popular at RYM, Bjork is popular, Godspeed is popular, Swans is popular.... if you take 1997 for instance for all genres (a fave year of mine), the top albums are (including ones included in PA): 1. Radiohead - OK Computer (#1 for 1997, #2 overall) 2. Björk - Homogenic (#2 for 1997, #47 overall) 3. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞ (#3 for 1997, #49 overall) 8. Stereolab - Dots and Loops (#8 for 1997, #227 overall) 17. Ground-Zero - Consume Red 18. (not in PA or Prog really but how can I resist?): Portishead - Portishead I have all of those albums above. Let's take 2000: 1. Radiohead - Kid A (#1 for 2000, #7 overall) 2. Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven! (#2 for 2000, #16 overall) 4. Boris - Flood (#4 for 2000, #169 overall) Let's take 2014: 1. Swans - To Be Kind (#1 for 2014, #106 overall) 7. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - I'm in Your Mind Fuzz (#7 for 2014, #969 overall) I have all of those albums above, and to me they are all greats in PA. Maybe I will do one of these (they don't take me long to do simply because I have done so many similar things and I have a very good idea of what is in PA without cross-checking). I have spent a lot of time with the RYM list and discovered lots of music that appeals to me. In fact, those gnereral/ all music lists are more useful to me than PA's top albums (especially as there is so much Proggy/ Prog adjacent/related music that is not in PA and my interests commonly align more with the so-called by some "hipsters" of RYM). ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 25 2024 at 22:10
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Radiohead are seemingly a bone of contention. On PA, OK Computer is the only album with at least 1000 ratings for 1997 and has a strong rating at 4.07 but that's not enough to rank it highly. (Personally and objectively I would include it in the top 20 prog albums of all time) RYM tags them as Art Rock so the list that the OP is using doesn't include them. If you do a sort on PA of only albums that have at least 1000 ratings for the years 1990 onwards then it still only comes in at #35 out of 61 possible finds and for all years it comes in at #114 out of 163 possible finds. RYM rates them highly without burdening them with the Prog tag. Put that tag on them with PA and the view and perspective seems to change (great Art Rock band, not so great Prog band) This is a little strange to me as the music is still the music regardless of how it's tagged. |
Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 02:51
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RYM community seems to really hate prog lol |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 07:17
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Sweep The Leg Johnny!!!! ------------- The Prog Corner |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 09:19
Indeed so the trick seems to be to call it 'art rock' and not 'prog rock'. It's funny just how much snobbery surrounds how things are tagged. No mainstream bands wants to be called prog and even worse 'Neo prog'. Jem Godfrey actually said recently that by calling music 'neo prog' you might as well be putting it in the trash!
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Deadwing wrote:Posted By: Deadwing
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 10:56
Yeah, it reminds a lot why Steven Wilson also hated that label in the 90's and 2000's as well, and learning better about these "cults" (in lack of a better word), I kinda understand why now. A lot of things are very prog but are just called art rock to look more acceptable
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 11:01
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Sorry, this is not a very thought-out or useful or perhaps relevant enough post... I'd say that the userbase at RYM is very diverse, and might be thought of as communities or just users with diverse interests. Just using some other thoughts as a springboard: I like the tagging system they use. Art Rock is a useful term. Prog is a nebulous label and so so are some others. A lot of what is included in PA, various so-called Prog purists have said is ridiculous and should not be included. Radiohead has, I think, a very large number of ratings, partially because the site got going when Radiohead was huge. It has been much maligned band here and has been controversial. A lot of people who are quick to dismiss aren't as familiar with the discography as they should be, nor the scope of this site. Taking Radiohead's Amnesiac for example. I find this way more informative and useful: Primary Genres: Art Rock, Experimental Rock Secondary Genres: Electronic, Jazz-Rock, Art Pop Descriptors: anxious, sombre, atmospheric, melancholic, cryptic, male vocalist, cold, abstract, lonely, surreal, mysterious, dark, nocturnal, eclectic, apathetic, complex, mechanical, avant-garde, progressive, alienation, pessimistic, death, apocalyptic, depressive, existential, longing I find that way more useful than dumping all the albums under Crossover Prog here. But I digress. I have seen someone here complain that RYM is a joke because Radiohead is popular there. At least progressive gets mentioned as a descriptor, and i think those say enough for me. When I use the RYM charts, I do not limit to one included under Progressive Rock. Not only does that miss out on a lot of what is in PA, it misses out on a lot of music that I would be interested in. Art Rock is one of my favourite descriptors, as is art pop.... I'm an alumni of the Art Rock side of things at PA (older members will remember the category at PA which was later split up). Even when I was familiar with the Prog term in the 80s, I would have sooner described Pink Floyd as Art Rock. I did have this kind of narrow view of what Prog-proper (so to speak) is, and I would not have called Radiohead Prog -- progressive, yes, but not Prog genre. Love Radiohead and happy to see it in PA, and I am big tenter for what could be included here. EDIT: By the way, considering how well, say, King Crimson fares at RYM and is labelled Progressive Rock, I would not say that Prog is hated there (definitely the more melodic rock/AOR Prog does not do as well there such as Neo-Prog as it seem to here percentage wise). In the Court of the Crimson King which is listed as Progressive Rock AND Art Rock is not only number one for 1969 when not limiting by genre, but number 6 overall, and that includes all albums included in RYM. I find it neat just how much music in PA does really well there. It (ItCotCK) has a 4.33 / 5.0 from 71,360 ratings. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 26 2024 at 21:21
| ^ I can say that generally Radiohead were widely considered ''prog'' after the release of OK Computer. The band may have messed up though and not realised they were heading that way. I even remember a popular newspaper putting out an article comparing them to Pink Floyd and Genesis (classic era) at the time. Kid A saw a definite move away towards so called 'Art rock''. I consider this a totally meaningless label personally but it suggests though a more softer less rock based style of music that was pionered by bands that didn't want to be part of the rock scene. There is a certain amount of bombast on OK Computer that disappears entirely on Kid A. The switching of genres is clear to me. I like both but that is irrelevant. In gross generalisation I think ''prog rock'' gets a bad rap because it confuses a lot of people. Bombast and art might not appear to be very good bed fellows. Bombast is somehow anti art yet something like Holst ''Bringer Of War'' is as bombastic as you get. Music critics will never understand this or just choose to ignore it conveniently. Personally I don't like any mainstream journalistic view of music. The ethos that grew out of late seventies punk was not what I wanted. Basically I reject any view that thinks Velvet Underground is where it's at. |
Posted By: ObeisantBread84
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 17:21
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I love all the Pink Floyd representation, they're probably my favorite band ever! ------------- Sincerely, Bread |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 18:21
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Posted By: ThyroidGlands
Date Posted: November 29 2024 at 18:32
Well, I wouldn’t say that. All the highest-rated prog albums each year have very high scores. Bands like King Crimson, black midi, and Pink Floyd are highly appreciated on the site. ------------- You don't know nothin' You don't know nothin' about You don't know nothin' You don't know nothin' at all |