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Topic: Anathema not prog?
Posted By: HarryT
Subject: Anathema not prog?
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 11:50
Been searching for Anathema posts and there is nothing. I take it they are not considered prog? Was going to post something about Danny Cavanagh touring.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 11:56
Definitely prog, I haven't seen the contrary stated around, I guess less popular than other bands here on PA. Smile



Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 15:11
Originally posted by HarryT HarryT wrote:

Been searching for Anathema posts and there is nothing. I take it they are not considered prog? Was going to post something about Danny Cavanagh touring.

The search function can be a bit temperamental at times. My own search turned up 69 posts with 'Anathema' in the topic title. Make sure you select 'All Forums' and 'Any Date' in the advanced search function.


Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 16:41
Don't reviews count for anything? I know I've posted reviews for ten of their albums.



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 16:54
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Don't reviews count for anything? I know I've posted reviews for ten of their albums.


The OP is a newbie, maybe he'll explore the site and find what he needs. Smile


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 12 2025 at 22:39
Probably not along all the alternative rock that now gets classified as ''prog'', but neverthless they are amazing. I posted a thread about Anathema some years ago after I purchased Weather Systems wondering why no one was talking about them. It seems they are just not that popular although well respected in their home city of Liverpool. Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 02:49
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

Yes, Anneke Van Giersbergen 
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Heike Langhans 


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 03:06
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

that's quite a bold statement... Christina Booth? Olivia Sparnenn-Josh? Hayley Griffiths? Rachel Jones? Anne-Marie Helder? Heather Findlay?


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: HarryT
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 05:23
Yes I guess it was my ineptitude at searching as I've not been on for a while.  It ws a pity Anathema split up but I have to say that as someone who lives around Liverpool it always amazed me they do not have a higher profile - in fact Ive often called them the best band Liverpool produced that no one there has heard of (exaggeration but you get the drift). 

I entirely agree with richardh about Lee Douglas, absolutely superb but she has disapepared without trace unless anyone knows different. There was a rumour she was waitressing but Ive got no further from that. I do know that Danny when talking about his MH problems after the breakup tends not to mention Lee if he can possibly help it. You wonder if something has gone on.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 05:47
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

that's quite a bold statement... Christina Booth? Olivia Sparnenn-Josh? Hayley Griffiths? Rachel Jones? Anne-Marie Helder? Heather Findlay?

Simone Simons, Floor Jansen


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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 07:32
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

that's quite a bold statement... Christina Booth? Olivia Sparnenn-Josh? Hayley Griffiths? Rachel Jones? Anne-Marie Helder? Heather Findlay?

Simone Simons, Floor Jansen

Yes, they are great too Mike... I think Lee also has a fine voice and wasn't denigrating her talents in any way, other than perhaps saying she was used as a backing or second singer quite a lot of the time. The UK Prog Rock scene has a number of very talented front women of whom the six I mentioned about are the tip of the iceberg and am not sure I could put Lee above any of them?


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 07:37
Originally posted by HarryT HarryT wrote:

I entirely agree with richardh about Lee Douglas, absolutely superb but she has disapepared without trace unless anyone knows different. There was a rumour she was waitressing but Ive got no further from that. I do know that Danny when talking about his MH problems after the breakup tends not to mention Lee if he can possibly help it. You wonder if something has gone on.

That is desperately sad from both perspectives and you wonder whether it had any bearing on Anathema's demise? Of course, it wouldn't be the first time.. the first incarnation of Karnataka imploded back in 2004 for the same reason...


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 08:00
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

that's quite a bold statement... Christina Booth? Olivia Sparnenn-Josh? Hayley Griffiths? Rachel Jones? Anne-Marie Helder? Heather Findlay?

Simone Simons, Floor Jansen

Yes, they are great too Mike... I think Lee also has a fine voice and wasn't denigrating her talents in any way, other than perhaps saying she was used as a backing or second singer quite a lot of the time. The UK Prog Rock scene has a number of very talented front women of whom the six I mentioned about are the tip of the iceberg and am not sure I could put Lee above any of them?

Obviously they're all great, including Lee. Smile

I think that on that level, there isn't really a "better" or "worse" since they all have great technique and differ in style to such a degree that it is difficult to compare. IMHO the best anyone could do is to rank them in terms of personal preference.


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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 10:05
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

Originally posted by HarryT HarryT wrote:

Been searching for Anathema posts and there is nothing. I take it they are not considered prog? Was going to post something about Danny Cavanagh touring.

The search function can be a bit temperamental at times. My own search turned up 69 posts with 'Anathema' in the topic title. Make sure you select 'All Forums' and 'Any Date' in the advanced search function.

The forum design is a bit outdated. I think it's been the same since the early 2000s.
 


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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 10:59
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 12:56
Covid basically shutdown Anathema, as well Danny's mental health issues.....I was hoping they would reform and get it going again, but seems not. 
I was hoping the other members would create something new along with Lee Douglas on vocals as she is simply amazing!

I would say they are definitely prog....The earlier albums are metal with harsh vocals, I don't listen to that era so not sure if it's prog-metal.
But the albums after that period to me are for sure prog. 


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 13:01
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

that's quite a bold statement... Christina Booth? Olivia Sparnenn-Josh? Hayley Griffiths? Rachel Jones? Anne-Marie Helder? Heather Findlay?

Simone Simons, Floor Jansen
I love all of those singers but I've never heard of Lee Douglas. Embarrassed


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 13:10


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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 15:39
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Obviously they're all great, including Lee. Smile

I think that on that level, there isn't really a "better" or "worse" since they all have great technique and differ in style to such a degree that it is difficult to compare. IMHO the best anyone could do is to rank them in terms of personal preference.

Agreed completely..  Star


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 13 2025 at 21:01
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Heard a better female vocalist than Lee Douglas? I haven't.

that's quite a bold statement... Christina Booth? Olivia Sparnenn-Josh? Hayley Griffiths? Rachel Jones? Anne-Marie Helder? Heather Findlay?

None of those (that I know) are actually better in my opinion. I wasn't actually saying she was the best but that there is no one I would rank higher. I'm not a fan of Renaissance particularly ( I was expecting Annie Haslam to be chucked at me on a number of posts but surprisingly not so much). A Natural Disaster is simply stunning as a vocal performance and generally there is a level of 'soul' that I don't hear in possibly better technical vocalists (but that is entirely subjective of course). Most peoples objections to last years Weather Systems album Ocean WIthout A Shore seemed to stem mainly from Lee not being on it!


Posted By: HarryT
Date Posted: March 19 2025 at 06:36
Yes soulful, that's a good description. Maybe she got fed up of always singing morose songs! I don't think Danny is gonna write a motivational book any time soon. 

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 19 2025 at 09:23
Well that goes for much of prog, not the kind of music you play on a bright sunny summer day.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 19 2025 at 22:59
Originally posted by HarryT HarryT wrote:

Yes soulful, that's a good description. Maybe she got fed up of always singing morose songs! I don't think Danny is gonna write a motivational book any time soon. 

I don't think that was always true. A Natural Disaster as well as a Fine Day To Exit were the height of their 'alt rock' phase in the 00's coming off the earlier doom metal stuff. They then took a break before the more uplifting albums Weather Systems and We're Here Because We're Here albums came along showing a more uplifting and spiritual approach. They adopted some Post-rock stylings and that worked well. Unfortunately they eventually ran into a creative brick wall with The Optimist which perhaps was more of a return to that 'morose' style (perhaps).



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