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Topic: Release Polls: Rank & Tier your Favorite Artists!Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Release Polls: Rank & Tier your Favorite Artists!
Date Posted: April 21 2025 at 01:02
Inspired by the other thread, maybe some of you would like to rank and tier your favorite artists? I'll start doing that with mine. In order to do so, just find your favorite artist at AP ( https://awesomeprog.com/search" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/search ) and click the "Release Polls" link on the artist page.
NOTE: The AP tier system ranges from S (best) through A, B, C, D, E to F (horrible). More infos here: https://awesomeprog.com/rating-system" rel="nofollow - https://awesomeprog.com/rating-system
I'll start with one of my favorite, but lesser known guitarists:
Replies: Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 21 2025 at 05:45
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51799#tag=%20%7bap:43712%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Folklore [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/folklore" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3j1MgNFNI90XdSTEGDN4pa" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38284#tag=%20%7bap:38956%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - English Electric Part One [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/english-electric-part-one-hi-resolution-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2tFDYqrHzWM7AB4S70x5qL" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40536#tag=%20%7bap:39326%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - English Electric Part Two [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/english-electric-part-two-standard-resolution-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4Y6EQSpyK0AIIxkX1nPhqr" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25416#tag=%20%7bap:27375%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - The Underfall Yard [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/the-underfall-yard" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0Oc9PWfIxXsmPVPQ6aet3c" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54842#tag=%20%7bap:44852%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - The Second Brightest Star [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/the-second-brightest-star" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0vrHQhDASQKq7sr4wGaj73" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61847#tag=%20%7bap:46537%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Grand Tour [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/grand-tour" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/18PbCZGHCGHGOpJoxlsfj4" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=83042#tag=%20%7bap:67511%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - The Likes of Us [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-likes-of-us" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3zjmvbCAxUJ4iXKDLvp9hK" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72597#tag=%20%7bap:50132%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Common Ground [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/common-ground" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7hoFLrTBtEyDQq19jwA8iq" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=30895#tag=%20%7bap:31525%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Far Skies Deep Time 10. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53949#tag=%20%7bap:44557%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Grimspound [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/grimspound-hi-resolution-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3YBGYpPgEcC8Tszi9ufIYS" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=73766#tag=%20%7bap:51450%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Welcome To The Planet [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/welcome-to-the-planet" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4GbXSOXXIWzoqbsI3u7rRu" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 12. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1750#tag=%20%7bap:16995%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Goodbye To The Age Of Steam [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/goodbye-to-the-age-of-steam-2011-re-issue" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6GBaiv5bmiLYzFcQIFShuy" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 13. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16153#tag=%20%7bap:16999%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - The Difference Machine [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/the-difference-machine-2010-re-issue" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1EdmXBKMsewOgZZvi8IyEK" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 14. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=77904#tag=%20%7bap:54361%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Ingenious Devices [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/ingenious-devices" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6tXyfs2daza72yokPLdf6r" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 15. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5049#tag=%20%7bap:16998%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - Gathering Speed [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/gathering-speed-2009-remaster" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5NPdDh0WFL7RJZoVcuFJG7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 16. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1749#tag=%20%7bap:16996%7d" rel="nofollow - Big Big Train - English Boy Wonders [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/english-boy-wonders-2008-re-issue" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1i2Z052r2mOO7SGn8ICj93" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 21 2025 at 23:21
And here's one of my all-time favorite prog metal bands
Pain of Salvation:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1024#tag=%20%7bap:8704%7d" rel="nofollow - The Perfect Element Part 1 (2000) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-perfect-element-pt-1-anniversary-mix-2020" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0yqtdNIwsXSZHL7A0QNBBb" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1025#tag=%20%7bap:21167%7d" rel="nofollow - Remedy Lane (2002) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/remedy-lane" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5wdXBbdGH90qfKoWBErbdw" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1023#tag=%20%7bap:8713%7d" rel="nofollow - One Hour by the Concrete Lake (1999) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/one-hour-by-the-concrete-lake" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3OLMehKzdw2yWK2ilfyhCR" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69600#tag=%20%7bap:48736%7d" rel="nofollow - Panther (2020) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/panther" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1Y31kS1a9b6tyXA9aAN9Tw" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53239#tag=%20%7bap:44452%7d" rel="nofollow - In The Passing Light Of Day (2017) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-passing-light-of-day" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3p3jOZI2RjHPVpu7kfgjOB" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1022#tag=%20%7bap:8714%7d" rel="nofollow - Entropia (1997) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/entropia" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6ThuI10v4PW9WMgAu7sWnp" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6402#tag=%20%7bap:21186%7d" rel="nofollow - Be (2004) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2V5UdIsOhTshU0ePMw9Dg3" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34015#tag=%20%7bap:37473%7d" rel="nofollow - Road Salt Two (2011) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/road-salt-two" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0kz8kBV9DVFdrAn4JZctG3" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25554#tag=%20%7bap:29941%7d" rel="nofollow - Linoleum (2009) [ https://painofsalvation.bandcamp.com/album/linoleum-ep" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5XNAErer5cakbrJYAWM65u" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=28295#tag=%20%7bap:29894%7d" rel="nofollow - Road Salt One (2010) [ https://painofsalvation.bandcamp.com/album/road-salt-one" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4dcELIj5hI9iXfkCSCvsBm" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=13659#tag=%20%7bap:8715%7d" rel="nofollow - Scarsick (2007) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/scarsick" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1SxgzMTADp2l25jwuZxPjX" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 01:23
Big Big Train:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=61847#tag=%20%7bap:46537%7d" rel="nofollow - Grand Tour (2019) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/grand-tour" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/18PbCZGHCGHGOpJoxlsfj4" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38284#tag=%20%7bap:38956%7d" rel="nofollow - English Electric Part One (2012) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/english-electric-part-one-hi-resolution-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2tFDYqrHzWM7AB4S70x5qL" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=40536#tag=%20%7bap:39326%7d" rel="nofollow - English Electric Part Two (2013) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/english-electric-part-two-standard-resolution-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4Y6EQSpyK0AIIxkX1nPhqr" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=73766#tag=%20%7bap:51450%7d" rel="nofollow - Welcome To The Planet (2022) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/welcome-to-the-planet" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4GbXSOXXIWzoqbsI3u7rRu" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=25416#tag=%20%7bap:27375%7d" rel="nofollow - The Underfall Yard (2009) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/the-underfall-yard" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0Oc9PWfIxXsmPVPQ6aet3c" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=77904#tag=%20%7bap:54361%7d" rel="nofollow - Ingenious Devices (2023) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/ingenious-devices" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6tXyfs2daza72yokPLdf6r" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=83042#tag=%20%7bap:67511%7d" rel="nofollow - The Likes of Us (2024) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-likes-of-us" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3zjmvbCAxUJ4iXKDLvp9hK" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16153#tag=%20%7bap:16999%7d" rel="nofollow - The Difference Machine (2007) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/the-difference-machine-2010-re-issue" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1EdmXBKMsewOgZZvi8IyEK" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72597#tag=%20%7bap:50132%7d" rel="nofollow - Common Ground (2021) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/common-ground" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7hoFLrTBtEyDQq19jwA8iq" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51799#tag=%20%7bap:43712%7d" rel="nofollow - Folklore (2016) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/folklore" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3j1MgNFNI90XdSTEGDN4pa" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53949#tag=%20%7bap:44557%7d" rel="nofollow - Grimspound (2017) [ https://bigbigtrain.bandcamp.com/album/grimspound-hi-resolution-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3YBGYpPgEcC8Tszi9ufIYS" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 01:40
Dream Theater:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1672#tag=%20%7bap:20871%7d" rel="nofollow - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory (1999) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1QZi8laY96nhaeGSklvN4D" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1662#tag=%20%7bap:4511%7d" rel="nofollow - Images and Words (1992) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2QgGoL5VSQhPHudTObS7zK" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1666#tag=%20%7bap:4512%7d" rel="nofollow - Awake (1994) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4jP59Kwqvy3n09eUe1Cge7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1667#tag=%20%7bap:4514%7d" rel="nofollow - A Change of Seasons (1995) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1ALR5shWvJ99oItXgRTbKj" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1623#tag=%20%7bap:20872%7d" rel="nofollow - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4INFVEhhhnLiqNR4MVPaX8" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=3777#tag=%20%7bap:21101%7d" rel="nofollow - Train of Thought (2003) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1yAbzShRcY4muLKsX8UWxj" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7515#tag=%20%7bap:4516%7d" rel="nofollow - Octavarium (2005) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4v6kYkn7mYjlWS9vONmmCP" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51098#tag=%20%7bap:43436%7d" rel="nofollow - The Astonishing (2016) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6SRlWxC7lMPu2qlwOMslrk" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=22165#tag=%20%7bap:23509%7d" rel="nofollow - Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2qMujQgkbogm4owxpt8aVP" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1670#tag=%20%7bap:4518%7d" rel="nofollow - Falling Into Infinity (1997) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2AcOiEYDeMTAzUdVLJ0DP7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=33499#tag=%20%7bap:36686%7d" rel="nofollow - A Dramatic Turn Of Events (2011) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6nTSYgih82tTwdWvmbtPHW" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 12. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1663#tag=%20%7bap:4515%7d" rel="nofollow - When Dream And Day Unite (1989) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1AznpOdGM8OcHYmqOUBXy3" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 13. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=73168#tag=%20%7bap:50784%7d" rel="nofollow - A View From The Top Of The World (2021) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5eukDoHISjksEavVxVKcXn" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 14. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=60604#tag=%20%7bap:46112%7d" rel="nofollow - Distance Over Time (2019) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/distance-over-time-24-bit-hd-bonus-track-version" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1sRDi0MSGOy91fHhcpXIu4" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 15. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14932#tag=%20%7bap:4517%7d" rel="nofollow - Systematic Chaos (2007) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5ORyMl3oua4PPIWXZVN8kz" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 16. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86998#tag=%20%7bap:74860%7d" rel="nofollow - Parasomnia (2025) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/parasomnia" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0ER7sdwIe6mfM63TbWcHmd" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 17. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42298#tag=%20%7bap:40041%7d" rel="nofollow - Dream Theater (2013) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2yzeTza4DXX5XpzJYY7CXO" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 02:07
FYI: Today I improved the export a lot - for artist polls the artist name is now extracted as a heading, and I added the release year.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 02:19
The Flower Kings:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17185#tag=%20%7bap:5985%7d" rel="nofollow - Meet the Flower Kings (2003) 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2014#tag=%20%7bap:20878%7d" rel="nofollow - Unfold The Future (2002) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/unfold-the-future-2022-remaster-24-bit-hd-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4vauIiSKO4vbPNelRwEdwi" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=373#tag=%20%7bap:5982%7d" rel="nofollow - Space Revolver (2000) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2vgMKYRAh2cR9SZErhSkjH" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=368#tag=%20%7bap:5990%7d" rel="nofollow - Stardust We Are (1997) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2xE9waZIXDIV5CwOZgakpf" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=74050#tag=%20%7bap:51533%7d" rel="nofollow - By Royal Decree (2022) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1yBwDHSpaR73VipJ7ZQgo7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=371#tag=%20%7bap:5984%7d" rel="nofollow - Flower Power (1999) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/flower-power-24-bit-hd-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0LSXTDQUfj3VYVIPR8GWNp" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=81325#tag=%20%7bap:64673%7d" rel="nofollow - Look At You Now (2023) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/look-at-you-now-24-bit-hd" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1tS0lzdt0yGUaYEkVFIYQD" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=365#tag=%20%7bap:5988%7d" rel="nofollow - Retropolis (1996) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2HcojZz0atBsMWrGxSSHx3" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=16382#tag=%20%7bap:5973%7d" rel="nofollow - The Sum of No Evil (2007) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2xcGHUZwnib6VZE6bl6Zbg" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11155#tag=%20%7bap:5983%7d" rel="nofollow - Paradox Hotel (2006) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/paradox-hotel-2023-remaster" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4l6I7neGDCuym2e0Gk9Poo" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=375#tag=%20%7bap:5991%7d" rel="nofollow - The Rainmaker (2001) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-rainmaker-24-bit-hd" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/05cC3PewpCjMGrAI9MDGhu" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 12. (C) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6157#tag=%20%7bap:5974%7d" rel="nofollow - Adam & Eve (2004) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/adam-eve-2023-remaster-24-bit-hd-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2A9gh59bcIDJ91kE2aomto" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 04:19
I really love Ayreon. Not sure why Transitus gets such low ratings, just as The Astonishing (Dream Theater) I suspect that many listeners simply expect a different format.
Ayreon:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17244#tag=%20%7bap:21489%7d" rel="nofollow - 01011001 (2008) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/01011001" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4JdcWpRQs6jWQrCANr1oDh" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53798#tag=%20%7bap:44490%7d" rel="nofollow - The Source (2017) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/the-source" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5fFPBn5jwIJOUPpRykOznH" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=146#tag=%20%7bap:4858%7d" rel="nofollow - Into the Electric Castle (1998) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/into-the-electric-castle-20th-anniversary-edition" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2kaJOqAkerwkUF266TsyMp" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5362#tag=%20%7bap:4860%7d" rel="nofollow - The Human Equation (2004) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/the-human-equation" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3mLnqsQ4o8hPPj8s2yfYeI" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42824#tag=%20%7bap:40350%7d" rel="nofollow - The Theory Of Everything (2013) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/the-theory-of-everything" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6YGyibUCTkvn0MHx2NpoH4" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69629#tag=%20%7bap:49112%7d" rel="nofollow - Transitus (2020) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/transitus" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/70KORU7OqZv2xVny1u3wyJ" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=149#tag=%20%7bap:4855%7d" rel="nofollow - Universal Migrator Part 2: Flight of the Migrator (2000) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/universal-migrator-part-1-2" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4aPe3iiuhnIJLoqPATvhrp" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=148#tag=%20%7bap:4854%7d" rel="nofollow - Universal Migrator Part 1: The Dream Sequencer (2000) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/the-universal-migrator-remixed-remastered" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2w6lE6xlZHf03WUWhoOzpk" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7372#tag=%20%7bap:4852%7d" rel="nofollow - Actual Fantasy (1996) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/actual-fantasy-revisited" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7ryQ9BNyxgOpAUxIRIEGrL" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=144#tag=%20%7bap:4853%7d" rel="nofollow - The Final Experiment (1995) [ https://ayreon.bandcamp.com/album/the-final-experiment" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1OlYgps2TZusKR5mCsllJ2" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 04:24
I really like the newer Symphony X releases (more so than the average fan), but nothing tops their 2000 release. Would be amazing to hear it remixed and remastered with a less muddy production, but not as loud as their more recent albums, to keep with the distinctly operatic/symphonic style.
Symphony X:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1291#tag=%20%7bap:18570%7d" rel="nofollow - V: The New Mythology Suite (2000) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3RZHKuP6hVRsHAVruUfDXE" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1987#tag=%20%7bap:18593%7d" rel="nofollow - The Odyssey (2002) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6DxbC5BG4iiktFTWbzqqIV" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=49520#tag=%20%7bap:42872%7d" rel="nofollow - Underworld (2015) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1QuLmibFywtH6jNHLYm393" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15160#tag=%20%7bap:21226%7d" rel="nofollow - Paradise Lost (2007) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6K8z6kKyWtEbOVdQqQ6Drb" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1288#tag=%20%7bap:21203%7d" rel="nofollow - The Divine Wings Of Tragedy (1996) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1ErltKGNVk6hw9OWfSq6Xe" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32746#tag=%20%7bap:33820%7d" rel="nofollow - Iconoclast (2011) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2deDTqKZ9NiPV8i46ygd6k" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1289#tag=%20%7bap:18594%7d" rel="nofollow - Twilight In Olympus (1998) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/20bdeGY0lisEOLW4rxWK9y" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1287#tag=%20%7bap:18582%7d" rel="nofollow - The Damnation Game (1995) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4y72N4zWsOqNxuCeyi2Qdz" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1286#tag=%20%7bap:18580%7d" rel="nofollow - Symphony X (1994) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7K97fB8yXMgjouoYMPZY8H" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 04:46
The Flower Kings:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=74050#tag=%20%7bap:51533%7d" rel="nofollow - By Royal Decree (2022) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1yBwDHSpaR73VipJ7ZQgo7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=37641#tag=%20%7bap:38590%7d" rel="nofollow - Banks Of Eden (2012) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0IUjnLnoCU085IZCi0AHVg" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=70250#tag=%20%7bap:48767%7d" rel="nofollow - Islands (2020) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3ISQ5U4NPUt2hCFRPORHDJ" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42898#tag=%20%7bap:40344%7d" rel="nofollow - Desolation Rose (2013) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/02kZ2Kw6DxlfaebRBVAKLR" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=368#tag=%20%7bap:5990%7d" rel="nofollow - Stardust We Are (1997) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2xE9waZIXDIV5CwOZgakpf" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=373#tag=%20%7bap:5982%7d" rel="nofollow - Space Revolver (2000) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2vgMKYRAh2cR9SZErhSkjH" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2014#tag=%20%7bap:20878%7d" rel="nofollow - Unfold The Future (2002) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/unfold-the-future-2022-remaster-24-bit-hd-audio" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4vauIiSKO4vbPNelRwEdwi" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 04:51
Dream Theater:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1667#tag=%20%7bap:4514%7d" rel="nofollow - A Change of Seasons (1995) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1ALR5shWvJ99oItXgRTbKj" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1666#tag=%20%7bap:4512%7d" rel="nofollow - Awake (1994) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4jP59Kwqvy3n09eUe1Cge7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7515#tag=%20%7bap:4516%7d" rel="nofollow - Octavarium (2005) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4v6kYkn7mYjlWS9vONmmCP" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1623#tag=%20%7bap:20872%7d" rel="nofollow - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (2002) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4INFVEhhhnLiqNR4MVPaX8" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1672#tag=%20%7bap:20871%7d" rel="nofollow - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory (1999) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1QZi8laY96nhaeGSklvN4D" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86998#tag=%20%7bap:74860%7d" rel="nofollow - Parasomnia (2025) [ https://insideoutmusic.bandcamp.com/album/parasomnia" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0ER7sdwIe6mfM63TbWcHmd" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1662#tag=%20%7bap:4511%7d" rel="nofollow - Images and Words (1992) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2QgGoL5VSQhPHudTObS7zK" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 22 2025 at 04:57
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 23 2025 at 13:08
Okay, I'll give this a go without rating the albums. The ranking is not very meaningful. The order could easily be changed, and I actually would be more comfortable doing it chronologically. One to 13 are really strong for me, and the other two I still like, particularly Love of Life, but both of those albums have music I love. I did not include the earlier albums (pre-Children of God) as I have not listened to them so much.
Swans:
1. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44162#tag=%20%7bap:32105%7d" rel="nofollow - Soundtracks for the Blind (1996) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/soundtracks-for-the-blind-2" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/40aCknK9NwtjoieiNyNLqf" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51855#tag=%20%7bap:64842%7d" rel="nofollow - The Glowing Man (2016) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/the-glowing-man" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/30FjZ3FGnMz4ita5zhqgkl" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44156#tag=%20%7bap:32096%7d" rel="nofollow - Children of God (1987) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/children-of-god-2020-remaster" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3yfbHvHfsz5olwd1asXBYu" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45320#tag=%20%7bap:41990%7d" rel="nofollow - To Be Kind (2014) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/to-be-kind" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4dq7JNcHKrnozzFQg5bpmn" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44159#tag=%20%7bap:32099%7d" rel="nofollow - White Light From the Mouth of Infinity (1991) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/white-light-from-the-mouth-of-infinity" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7n4YQAF0Ii8Fnncst4RKew" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44161#tag=%20%7bap:32103%7d" rel="nofollow - The Great Annihilator (1995) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/great-annihilator-drainland-remastered-2017" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6w4KA1m28Te8T2hnNAig1E" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44146#tag=%20%7bap:41991%7d" rel="nofollow - The Seer (2012) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/the-seer" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5hXTuGzaOREp5WHYGQXXB1" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=80890#tag=%20%7bap:63656%7d" rel="nofollow - The Beggar (2023) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/the-beggar" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5e925G5F00QzYCyg3AAMeS" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=87146#tag=%20%7bap:75587%7d" rel="nofollow - Live Rope (Live, 2024) 10. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44163#tag=%20%7bap:32107%7d" rel="nofollow - My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky (2010) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/my-father-will-guide-me-up-a-rope-to-the-sky" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5qyGtkaN9N50H0YnK1zDza" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=56286#tag=%20%7bap:75037%7d" rel="nofollow - Deliquescence (Live, 2017) 12. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63404#tag=%20%7bap:77348%7d" rel="nofollow - leaving meaning. (2019) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/leaving-meaning" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6r85UKv2iQ0qdUXgEOLw8r" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 13. (?) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/32101#tag=%20%7bap:32101%7d" rel="nofollow - Omniscience (Live, 1992) [AP Prog] 14. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44160#tag=%20%7bap:32100%7d" rel="nofollow - Love of Life (1992) [ https://swans.bandcamp.com/album/love-of-life" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0Jl1mUW72D8PgVCMI0OmwQ" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 15. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=44158#tag=%20%7bap:32098%7d" rel="nofollow - The Burning World (1989) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3GuoOzNfnVUqOKbkqm1ACA" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 23 2025 at 13:30
Again, the order is fairly meaningless and I have not rated the albums (I find rating unsatisfactory, and rankings I tend not to be keen on either, but I sure do like to present lists... That may be an autism spectrum trait with me, although I have not been diagnosed with it). My favourite often is the one I'm listening to at that time. The top ten especially have all got a lot of plays.
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 23 2025 at 14:35
If this seems like déjà vu, a month ago I had already posted the exact same ordered list https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=134690&PID=6180978#6180978" rel="nofollow - here. It would less redundant if I tried to rate the albums -- one day I likely will try if feeling particularly encouraged or inspired. Ranking already is tough.
Godspeed You! Black Emperor:
1. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6179#tag=%20%7bap:20883%7d" rel="nofollow - F♯ A♯ ∞ (1997) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/f-a" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7sh2Z8jj1iySpHRAnGd9w5" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6180#tag=%20%7bap:15742%7d" rel="nofollow - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven (2000) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/lift-your-skinny-fists-like-antennas-to-heaven" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2rT82YYlV9UoxBYLIezkRq" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6181#tag=%20%7bap:15723%7d" rel="nofollow - Yanqui U.X.O. (2002) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/yanqui-u-x-o" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5ydUUSd6Z62SLZCQ9RkE0d" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6182#tag=%20%7bap:15725%7d" rel="nofollow - Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada (EP, 1999) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/slow-riot-for-new-zero-kanada" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2tA6VFMIQuSF3KpXsrulw9" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72146#tag=%20%7bap:51750%7d" rel="nofollow - G_d's Pee AT STATE'S END! (2021) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/g-d-s-pee-at-state-s-end" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1RDLG5wi0a2Lrgdxs32tKL" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=39132#tag=%20%7bap:39178%7d" rel="nofollow - 'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend! (2012) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/allelujah-dont-bend-ascend" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/30bTXMxsMsYn7QbwmDW3rj" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=86421#tag=%20%7bap:74556%7d" rel="nofollow - "No Title as of 13 February 2024 28,340 Dead" (2024) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/no-title-as-of-13-february-2024-28340-dead" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1qG30zCAZ30hsmA5wAlaQ3" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=48534#tag=%20%7bap:42288%7d" rel="nofollow - 'Asunder, Sweet And Other Distress' (2015) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/asunder-sweet-and-other-distress" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3ld6n4RnKT8mYYOhAOg2Kf" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=55188#tag=%20%7bap:45309%7d" rel="nofollow - Luciferian Towers (2017) [ https://godspeedyoublackemperor.bandcamp.com/album/luciferian-towers" rel="nofollow - BC ] [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6NeicP84ZRNL2yMlWS6XzH" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (?) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/79846#tag=%20%7bap:79846%7d" rel="nofollow - All Lights f**ked on the Hairy Amp Drooling (1994) [AP]
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 23 2025 at 15:16
^ Fair enough, of course the "tiering" is optional. Having said that, I'll remove the "(?)" from the export when none of the releases are tiered.
I'm wondering though - is it that you couldn't assign a numerical rating to the releases, or can't you even say whether they're "supreme", "awesome" or "great"? Would a simplified tier selection (e.g. just a dropdown to select a tier from S to F) enable you to assign tiers?
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 23 2025 at 16:02
^ This (my post, not yours) is very, very badly expressed, and could be a lot more sensible. I don't like the terms for one thing, although that shouldn't matter if it's clear what it means/ represents. The exercise does not resonate with me. A simple number would be preferable, like 1 to 20. But maybe because I don't have the "soul" (so to speak) of a mathematician or statistician, or whatever, the numbers don't sing to me. I like to list more than rate. I'd keep the question marks, personally, but then I like Doctor Who.
They are almost all great to me (or one might say awesome for them), that's a problem, and what is supreme amongst them often depends on what I am listening to at the time. The terminology does not work well with my personality either. Honestly, I don't like the terms, maybe they are a little too informal and young for me (I'm pretty old school), lacking nuance, too much like synonyms... "Da shizz" I like for some reason, and "Yowza" and "Wha' tha?" so, hmm. Don't know, my weird sense of fun and humour, I guess. I don't like the ratings descriptions at PA either.
While I rank and rate things, it's not something I'm very comfortable doing. I would rather try to review if I was better at it. I'd like to present lists that show music I am into and hopefully connect with others who share the tastes.
I actually do find charts useful, so I am hardly against rating and ranking albums. But I'm more like I love lots in their own way. Or I find it mediocre, or bad for my tastes. But I usually listen to and like to talk about that which I love.
And on a sidenote, I most like lists when they are interactive, people commenting on each others lists and sharing what they like and don't like from each other's likes... I do like looking at the combined results from your polls, like with albums of the year and being a contributor to that. I value your site for making lists and seeing others lists and seeing combined rankings...
Different strokes for different folks. Lots I do like to use at your site. I feel like a rating and ranking and such descriptions just does not do justice to how an album affects me commonly. The numbers and descriptions don't represent the beauty enough to me, or how it resonates emotionally, or I should say I feel it's lacking in its descriptiveness of beauty to me as it is a subjective evaluation. Sadly, no review or rating can truly share how music or other art and things make me truly feel. Empathy, vocabulary, and signs and signifiers can give some insight.
Rating is not something I tend to enjoy, or assigning levels of status to something with descriptions like awesome or masterpiece. Ranking is already a less than desirable task for me despite finding utility in ratings and rankings. Maybe I'm being selfish... When I was in my 20s I wrote film reviews and I hated the expectation of rating the album and was less comfortable with others rating art. I've become more okay with it because I realise that that can help me to discover things that I will love, but to also be wary of ratings still. What is super-duper stupendously great to me might be super-duper bad to the ears of another of course. But I digress and kind of lost my way as I was dealing with a call.
One thing I often don't like to say or even imply is that one album is better than another. Others are much more comfortable with declarations of quality than I am and will bandy about terms such as good, great and bad much more, and more stridently and definitively than I would like. Even if one is not speaking in objective terms, but explicitly subjectively, very often I don't think of an album as being better than an other for me as I value each on its own merits and in its own way. And as said, often the one I like best is what I am listening to at the time. It doesn't mean I don't have preferences, of course I do, but ranking and rating can feel like a very shallow and even disingenuous exercise to me. I can say with, say, quite a few of those Swans and Stevens albums that I ultimately value them both equally and differently in their own ways. I can also say that some of theirs I do not value as much as others. I like to focus the most on those that I appreciate very much.
EDIT: In terms of tiers descriptions, I do quite like something of this sort in part (off the top of my head, and rather hyperbolic):
- Friggin' Adore!! - Love! - Really Like - Like - So-so (meh) - Dislike (as a negative experience)) - Really dislike (yuck) - Hate (this album should die!) - Abhor with a hatred that burns intensely (this album and, well I won't go there) - Detest with a rage so strong that you would rather see the world burn than contemplate a world in which this album exists - Detest with a rage and hatred so strong that you would rather see the universe burn than contemplate a universe where such a horrendously horrible and infinitely hateful album could ever exist or have existed in all of space-time. Even just the idea of it would make a universe that could conceive of such a thing utterly deplorable and worthy of absolute annihilation
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: bardberic
Date Posted: April 23 2025 at 21:03
I did one for Renaissance some time ago: https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/ap/aota-4420/results
Also, Mike you should allow video releases to be added to a poll, I think. I'd like to put both Orphaned Land's Or-Shalem (which exists as a stand album, too) and Renaissance's archival video album in their lists.
Either that or remove live albums being added entirely, since some live albums, like OL's are listed as video(as it had two releases). I opt for the former sinceI don't think video releases are necessarily problematic for these lists
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 00:53
King Crimson:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1911#tag=%20%7bap:14321%7d" rel="nofollow - Red (1974) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/13dGZzRzFoejmyVXAbTPAH" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=2177#tag=%20%7bap:14355%7d" rel="nofollow - The Power To Believe (2003) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/37yMnX5TiSEOZWTwWBSgf2" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1910#tag=%20%7bap:20925%7d" rel="nofollow - Starless and Bible Black (1974) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6T1OSjyB1wzVIIK28dX16T" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1905#tag=%20%7bap:20909%7d" rel="nofollow - Lizard (1970) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0XgPK9sa1qhh9lcQwIdZr7" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1903#tag=%20%7bap:20907%7d" rel="nofollow - In the Court of the Crimson King (1969) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5wec5BciMpDMzlEFpYeHse" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1904#tag=%20%7bap:14339%7d" rel="nofollow - In The Wake Of Poseidon (1970) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4dgsjsPIogKXhFlPZSYjvT" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1906#tag=%20%7bap:14356%7d" rel="nofollow - Islands (1971) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6cGEJiBsNzLDDY1hongRQs" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1909#tag=%20%7bap:20908%7d" rel="nofollow - Larks' Tongues in Aspic (1973) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1z6Lu9ygvU5pNC8Y05AW31" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1922#tag=%20%7bap:14354%7d" rel="nofollow - THRAK (1995) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3qgsEHi1mqPubkwk8UA33Q" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (D) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1914#tag=%20%7bap:14320%7d" rel="nofollow - Discipline (1981) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2p53eKYYG1kCcjIyjS7pOc" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 00:55
Pink Floyd:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1442#tag=%20%7bap:21530%7d" rel="nofollow - Animals (1977) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/21jUB9RqplD6OqtsTjKBnO" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1441#tag=%20%7bap:21197%7d" rel="nofollow - Wish You Were Here (1975) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0bCAjiUamIFqKJsekOYuRw" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1440#tag=%20%7bap:14843%7d" rel="nofollow - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4LH4d3cOWNNsVw41Gqt2kv" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1443#tag=%20%7bap:21177%7d" rel="nofollow - The Wall (1979) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6WaIQHxEHtZL0RZ62AuY0g" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1438#tag=%20%7bap:14800%7d" rel="nofollow - Meddle (1971) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7yKRvvqspSxfLkr7C7RaAI" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1433#tag=%20%7bap:14822%7d" rel="nofollow - The Piper At The Gates of Dawn (1967) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2Se4ZylF9NkFGD92yv1aZC" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1437#tag=%20%7bap:14804%7d" rel="nofollow - Atom Heart Mother (1970) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5c1ZTzT4oSkiiFS4wmEuOe" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (C) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1446#tag=%20%7bap:14795%7d" rel="nofollow - The Division Bell (1994) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7wzStEU2keGohEu8jpVMZW" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (C) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1439#tag=%20%7bap:14798%7d" rel="nofollow - Obscured By Clouds (Soundtrack, 1972) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3HZKOTmpigZcWHxACjENyh" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (E) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1445#tag=%20%7bap:14799%7d" rel="nofollow - A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4xODvcpjOOgu4oKWL0sCte" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 00:57
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9223#tag=%20%7bap:16626%7d" rel="nofollow - Machine Head (1972) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1EK3a0Yctg4d3nGQzE4Uty" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9120#tag=%20%7bap:16625%7d" rel="nofollow - In Rock (1970) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3llL1qaL2RvtyQAthAuRFS" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9174#tag=%20%7bap:16572%7d" rel="nofollow - Made In Japan (Live, 1972) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0Ty5I1E0rJdOXvgOIFMTad" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9121#tag=%20%7bap:16568%7d" rel="nofollow - Fireball (1971) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3oitf8NRK5tSDhCRVcOewu" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9220#tag=%20%7bap:16579%7d" rel="nofollow - Purpendicular (1996) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3bErA9aFZyGiD9j5ntYe5v" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9214#tag=%20%7bap:21137%7d" rel="nofollow - Burn (1974) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5mImvIZcP7Pc23RhSZajsC" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9176#tag=%20%7bap:16623%7d" rel="nofollow - Stormbringer (1974) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5v7E58jgi8CGlLlVtuxwVg" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9217#tag=%20%7bap:16574%7d" rel="nofollow - The House of Blue Light (1987) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3jb80uITBoKioTLmu8cqaC" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9216#tag=%20%7bap:16576%7d" rel="nofollow - Perfect Strangers (1984) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1FOmatanDRxS9EGcxjXKuO" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=84952#tag=%20%7bap:71537%7d" rel="nofollow - =1 (2024) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4wSHMlOxOpLLs1boWeAteq" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 01:24
^ Whoosh! was a pleasant suprise, I like Don Airey a lot though as he channels a lot of Keith Emerson in his style perhaps more than Jon Lord. =1 is also great and Simon McBride is a guitar genius. I could rate it a bit higher maybe.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 02:21
Logan wrote:
One thing I often don't like to say or even imply is that one album is better than another.
Thanks for the lengthy reply, I read all of it and agree with some of it, and I love your tier descriptions.
I picked the above sentence to quote because I think it sums up the core issue ...
In the end, we do prefer some albums over others. Ultimately this is reflected in how often we listen to them. Or as a corollary, the albums which we listen to once and then never play again are clearly not our favorite releases. Of course nowadays people can listen to thousands of releases without having to purchase them, which means that sometimes we will not play a release again which we really like(d) because we forget about it after having listened to lots of other (new) music. At the end of the day though, most people probably have a short list of absolute favorite releases which they always return to (this would be the S tier), and a longer list of releases they listened to a lot, are really well familiar with them and would list as their favorites without thinking twice (the A tier). Then there's releases which you really like, but somehow put off listening to again (usually because there are other releases which you'd rather listen to). That would be the B tier, and of course with C and beyond it's just a matter of decreasing quality (as you perceive it).
This is how I think about ratings and tiers. It's more about how much you like something than it is a general statement about "quality".
Having said that, one big factor in rating/tiering is not wanting to hurt any feelings either of the affected artists or their fans. It feels great to assign the S tier to something, but it can feel quite painful to assign a lower tier. Still, it's often the most honest thing you can do. And it is usually the ONLY thing you can do to put your recommendations into proper perspective.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 03:40
Modified the export to skip tier display unless at least one release is tiered, and added familiarity to provide more context for those of you who absolutely will not tier releases (since one of the core philosophies of AP is that most of its features are and will forever be completely optional).
Pink Floyd:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1440#tag=%20%7bap:14843%7d" rel="nofollow - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4LH4d3cOWNNsVw41Gqt2kv" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1441#tag=%20%7bap:21197%7d" rel="nofollow - Wish You Were Here (1975, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0bCAjiUamIFqKJsekOYuRw" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1443#tag=%20%7bap:21177%7d" rel="nofollow - The Wall (1979, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6WaIQHxEHtZL0RZ62AuY0g" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1442#tag=%20%7bap:21530%7d" rel="nofollow - Animals (1977, listened often) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/21jUB9RqplD6OqtsTjKBnO" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1444#tag=%20%7bap:14794%7d" rel="nofollow - The Final Cut (1983, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5ChHkKb5VhZe0pgQRsvpek" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1438#tag=%20%7bap:14800%7d" rel="nofollow - Meddle (1971, first listen) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7yKRvvqspSxfLkr7C7RaAI" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1434#tag=%20%7bap:14821%7d" rel="nofollow - A Saucerful of Secrets (1968, first listen) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2vnJKtGjZXRUg0mYPZ3HGH" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 8. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1445#tag=%20%7bap:14799%7d" rel="nofollow - A Momentary Lapse of Reason (1987, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4xODvcpjOOgu4oKWL0sCte" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1437#tag=%20%7bap:14804%7d" rel="nofollow - Atom Heart Mother (1970, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5c1ZTzT4oSkiiFS4wmEuOe" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1446#tag=%20%7bap:14795%7d" rel="nofollow - The Division Bell (1994, first listen) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7wzStEU2keGohEu8jpVMZW" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1436#tag=%20%7bap:14801%7d" rel="nofollow - Ummagumma (1969, first listen) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4uuyGVEZpYaGB1HtewAogW" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 12. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1435#tag=%20%7bap:14802%7d" rel="nofollow - More (Soundtrack, 1969, first listen) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6xWRCFsaqoYj3ZwxMkCE85" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 13. (C) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1439#tag=%20%7bap:14798%7d" rel="nofollow - Obscured By Clouds (Soundtrack, 1972, first listen) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3HZKOTmpigZcWHxACjENyh" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 05:01
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 05:27
^ Thanks for the thoughtful response, Mike.
I, like others, certainly have favourites, and with some acts with many releases my favourites are much clearer than with others. With other acts I have many favourites, some not so liked, and what is my favourite often will depend on what I am listening to at the moment. And I have acts where I have listened to various albums a huge many times, sometimes even putting an album on repeat. With some it is way easier choosing clear favourites than others, for a great many bands ranking would be an easy task for me. With some it really is like, this is the best album ever when listening to it, and then I listen to another, and at that times I feel that is the best, and so on, and I realise they might have many albums that can rank supreme in their own ways and so none of those are ultimately better to me. And my favourites often depend on the mood I am in at the time, what other stuff I am particularly into at any given time...
The thing about judging quality is something of an aside as I have often had people, for instance, insist to me that an album I love is bad or mediocre rather than saying it's not to their taste, and when I would try to explore that idea they would double-down and insist without justifying the claim. Of course people are entitled to their own tastes, people have preferences, but I do wish people would be more careful when phrasing such claims as if they were objective truth, and in some cases more rational in recognising that it is a subjective appraisal. Making such claims can be a bit of trigger for me and brings back unhappy memories in my interactions with friends and family. I can appreciate someone's tastes and appreciate an album without liking it...
I would rather rate an album right after listening to an album several times in a row (that's how I like to review bad as my reviews are), as that might better capture my feelings, but I said I would try to rate if feeling encouraged, and I am. Like ranking quite often, the ratings do feel arbitrary. I gave Music Has the Right to Children one hundred as to me it has been a perfect listening experience in its way. Several of these would get five stars from me if in PA.
This band is not in PA, but I don't like to try draw lines between Prog and not Prog often, and commonly there are not clear boundaries...
Boards of Canada:
1. (S) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/12198#tag=%20%7bap:12198%7d" rel="nofollow - Music Has the Right to Children (1998, listened extensively) [AP Non-Prog] [ https://boardsofcanada.bandcamp.com/album/music-has-the-right-to-children" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/1vWnB0hYmluskQuzxwo25a" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/12196#tag=%20%7bap:12196%7d" rel="nofollow - Geogaddi (2002, listened extensively) [AP Prog] [ https://boardsofcanada.bandcamp.com/album/geogaddi" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/7Lou3RDk6NswmbzBMhro24" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/12197#tag=%20%7bap:12197%7d" rel="nofollow - The Campfire Headphase (2005, listened extensively) [AP Non-Prog] [ https://boardsofcanada.bandcamp.com/album/the-campfire-headphase" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/0wBiN0fKhy0ywx732SpgUs" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (A) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/46209#tag=%20%7bap:46209%7d" rel="nofollow - Tomorrow's Harvest (2013, listened often) [AP Prog] [ https://boardsofcanada.bandcamp.com/album/tomorrows-harvest" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/159ORixBSSemxiualv1Woj" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (A) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77740#tag=%20%7bap:77740%7d" rel="nofollow - In a Beautiful Place Out in the Country (EP, 2000, several listens) [AP Non-Prog] [ https://boardsofcanada.bandcamp.com/album/in-a-beautiful-place-out-in-the-country" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/2DcU3XHY41Z1InXHNkiJWe" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (B) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/77751#tag=%20%7bap:77751%7d" rel="nofollow - Boc Maxima (1996, several listens) [AP]
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 07:23
Here's another über-favourite of mine and each of these has been my favourite at one time and the order could easily change to make any of these my top album. Ranking them and rating them feels very arbitrary. Like to have them all in top spot. Not Prog overall I would posit, but Third particularly has Prog relations due to it's Krautrock, electronic and experimental rock qualities and would not really be out of place in Crossover, thereby joining another head that has performed, at least in part, with Portishead, Radiohead. Or maybe I should say Yorkeishead.
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 07:43
And here's one more before I call it a day for a band I tried my hand at a few reviews for after adding it it to the 'chives (too many cooked up lists spoil the broth). I am getting more comfortable rating and it need not be definitive or taken terribly seriously. It's a rough guide to what does what for me.
Fishmans:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=90274#tag=%20%7bap:63236%7d" rel="nofollow - 98.12.28 男達の別れ (98.12.28 Otokotachi No Wakare) (Live, 1999, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5K4YFkTizFoMOyN5Khfp7G" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=90273#tag=%20%7bap:64754%7d" rel="nofollow - Long Season (1996, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4EX1fAypgQC9wDjGI5QzbZ" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=90275#tag=%20%7bap:79262%7d" rel="nofollow - Long Season '96-7 - 96.12.26 Akasaka Blitz赤坂 (Live, 2016, several listens) 4. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=90280#tag=%20%7bap:77748%7d" rel="nofollow - 宇宙 日本 世田谷 (1997, listened often) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0hUfv1cSXNaBZ6dHKGluEy" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (B) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=90277#tag=%20%7bap:76144%7d" rel="nofollow - 空中キャンプ (Something in the Air) (1996, listened often) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/7GOdEIOvr41lvxDK7bvPrI" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (C) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=90278#tag=%20%7bap:79263%7d" rel="nofollow - Orange (オレンジ) (1994, several listens)
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 07:55
^ Interesting, I should check out Fishmans. Based on your list I will start with Long Season, but of course individual tier assignments are highly subjective. One of my concerns when assigning low tiers is that it will discourage others from checking out a release, but that's an irrational fear. By looking through the lists in this thread so far it should be clear to everyone that one person's C-tier release could be another person's S-tier all time favorite release, and vice versa. On the individual level tiered lists are simply an interesting glimpse into how one person perceives the music. It's on the collective level that they gain more predictive power in terms of release quality.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 08:10
^ That C is more like a C plus. It has music I love, and I could have gone with a B. Maybe when I next listen to it I will think of it more highly. With Fishmans I often do find albums take a few spins for me to really appreciate even if I like music off the albums immediately.
As for Long Season, this live version, off my top rated Fishmans album, Otokotachi No Wakare, is what I would recommend trying. Don't know if it would be your thing.
or without the concert video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tz4xEyx0R0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tz4xEyx0R0
I'm big on groove and atmosphere, and love the groove of it. The vocals would be turn off to some. Sadly the lead singer/guitarist/songwriter did die a few months after the concert which can make it rather chilling. I did not know that when I first got to know it. And when I did find out I could not listen to it or watch it for a while. While I did not know Fishmans while working in Japan, it also resonates with me because I lived there in the 90s while working as an English teacher (was in Japan when Long Season was released, how time flies, and I met my wife there).
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 08:12
Logan wrote:
^ Thanks for the thoughtful response, Mike.
I, like others, certainly have favourites, and with some acts with many releases my favourites are much clearer than with others. With other acts I have many favourites, some not so liked, and what is my favourite often will depend on what I am listening to at the moment. And I have acts where I have listened to various albums a huge many times, sometimes even putting an album on repeat. With some it is way easier choosing clear favourites than others, for a great many bands ranking would be an easy task for me. With some it really is like, this is the best album ever when listening to it, and then I listen to another, and at that times I feel that is the best, and so on, and I realise they might have many albums that can rank supreme in their own ways and so none of those are ultimately better to me. And my favourites often depend on the mood I am in at the time, what other stuff I am particularly into at any given time...
Yes, it really varies. For users like me (who listen to hundreds of releases each year) it can get really difficult to remember everything I listened to. Even absolute favorites pale in my memory after having heard dozens of new albums. In order to rate them properly I would have to listen to them again, which I try to do on a regular basis. Sometimes I'll devote entire days to listening to one really favorite artist's discography. Soon I'll tackle Zappa, which will take me 1-2 weeks. Like you said, it is difficult to rate a release purely from memory, except for the most iconic ones. This is one of the reasons why I like using a website like AP (or RYM, or PA to some extent) to keep track of my impressions while I'm listening to the music, so that I can review it later.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 09:20
^^^ Without doing it at AP at this time, my order for my top might be.
1. Hérésie 2. Ceux du dehors 3. Univers Zero 4. Uzed 5. Heatwave 6. Clivages
Those first three are pretty interchangeable. On some days I would put the debut in top spot.
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Logan wrote:
^ Thanks for the thoughtful response, Mike.
I, like others, certainly have favourites, and with some acts with many releases my favourites are much clearer than with others. With other acts I have many favourites, some not so liked, and what is my favourite often will depend on what I am listening to at the moment. And I have acts where I have listened to various albums a huge many times, sometimes even putting an album on repeat. With some it is way easier choosing clear favourites than others, for a great many bands ranking would be an easy task for me. With some it really is like, this is the best album ever when listening to it, and then I listen to another, and at that times I feel that is the best, and so on, and I realise they might have many albums that can rank supreme in their own ways and so none of those are ultimately better to me. And my favourites often depend on the mood I am in at the time, what other stuff I am particularly into at any given time...
Yes, it really varies. For users like me (who listen to hundreds of releases each year) it can get really difficult to remember everything I listened to. Even absolute favorites pale in my memory after having heard dozens of new albums. In order to rate them properly I would have to listen to them again, which I try to do on a regular basis. Sometimes I'll devote entire days to listening to one really favorite artist's discography. Soon I'll tackle Zappa, which will take me 1-2 weeks. Like you said, it is difficult to rate a release purely from memory, except for the most iconic ones. This is one of the reasons why I like using a website like AP (or RYM, or PA to some extent) to keep track of my impressions while I'm listening to the music, so that I can review it later.
My rating could vary depending on the day and mood even for albums I know really well. I don't listen to as much as you when it comes to new-to-me releases and often my favourite du jour gets played again and again and again. I commonly will have a pretty good memory of what I have listened to, but it might not always connect with me. There are albums I loved twenty years ago and listened to lots but then came back to a decade later and they did little for me... Maybe they weren't representative of my current interests. A rating for me would be something of a snapshot of how I feel at a given time, but a huge many I do know so well that I could happily rate without revisiting and still feel that it is an accurate representation of my tastes. It's like I have fully absorbed the music, become part of my DNA.
At PA I would rather not rate without reviewing (I had a flurry of rating activity many years ago when the quick rating feature was implemented) and generally to me what most matters is sharing the music with others, highlighting it, and discussing the music. I'm looking to connect with people over music, and find those shared passions. I'm not adept socially, an introvert, but it is that social aspect that is so important to me. If that fails, then there is no point posting in the forums for me, for instance. With lists too, I also wish they could be somehow more interactive. This is a discussion forum, but list-making and presenting them can be such a solitary process. I love to make lists but I also yearn for less people just doing their own thing, and that we are striving to share in that experience more, and communicating with each other more. But my mind and post is all over the place.
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 10:58
Another from me, as these are fun to do, from my favourite RIO band. Favourite release depends on the day. Those first three are the ones that I have returned to the most over the years. For many years I counted this as my favourite band (and Magma). Will do Magma next...
Art Zoyd:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4706#tag=%20%7bap:21118%7d" rel="nofollow - Le Mariage du Ciel et de l'Enfer (1985, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6JMI5rlCMmH91OoSvnNhT5" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4704#tag=%20%7bap:21307%7d" rel="nofollow - Génération sans Futur (1980, listened extensively) [ https://artzoyd3.bandcamp.com/album/g-n-ration-sans-futur-1980" rel="nofollow - BC ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4712#tag=%20%7bap:4695%7d" rel="nofollow - Faust (1995, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/4LGroVzvA8kPX6x5VtgmB9" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4703#tag=%20%7bap:4696%7d" rel="nofollow - Musique pour l’Odyssée (1979, listened extensively) [ https://subrosalabel.bandcamp.com/album/musique-pour-l-odyss-e-1978" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/05qIo9ETHpDmeiHSTHDFQX" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29931#tag=%20%7bap:77938%7d" rel="nofollow - Symphonie pour le jour où brûleront les cités (1981, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/05qIo9ETHpDmeiHSTHDFQX" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4713#tag=%20%7bap:4683%7d" rel="nofollow - Häxan (1997, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/5CvU9SPztQ1rOT0sDgY1nl" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4707#tag=%20%7bap:4686%7d" rel="nofollow - Phase IV (1982, listened extensively) 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4705#tag=%20%7bap:4697%7d" rel="nofollow - Les Espaces Inquiets (1983, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/61eovPxwJXyUP0QJR1qdnd" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4708#tag=%20%7bap:4688%7d" rel="nofollow - Berlin (1987, listened extensively) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/6EJJxWqbNOTcwq2JfVkOlV" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 10. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=29931#tag=%20%7bap:4705%7d" rel="nofollow - Symphonie Pour Le Jour Où Brûleront Les Cités (1976, listened extensively) [ https://subrosalabel.bandcamp.com/album/symphonie-pour-le-jour-o-br-leront-les-cit-s-1976" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/05qIo9ETHpDmeiHSTHDFQX" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4709#tag=%20%7bap:4681%7d" rel="nofollow - Nosferatu (1988, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3XytZ3cQ8nRRukNlAbsfRe" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 12. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4714#tag=%20%7bap:4694%7d" rel="nofollow - u.B.I.Q.U.e (2001, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/35JGgfiHLX0AVvCqMBbpnN" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 13. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4716#tag=%20%7bap:4690%7d" rel="nofollow - Metropolis (Soundtrack, 2002, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/0BsENTArzL7CmF53fUpQG4" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 14. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=35805#tag=%20%7bap:56436%7d" rel="nofollow - Eyecatcher (2011, several listens) 15. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4710#tag=%20%7bap:4693%7d" rel="nofollow - Marathonnerre I (1993, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/2MoVLmjyHQ14u8kH0juz2X" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 16. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4711#tag=%20%7bap:4689%7d" rel="nofollow - Marathonnerre II (1993, several listens) 17. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18545#tag=%20%7bap:4685%7d" rel="nofollow - La Chute De La Maison Usher (2008, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/1vdl6hpnR3T7sWdEPpVZyN" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 18. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12009#tag=%20%7bap:4684%7d" rel="nofollow - Le Champ des Larmes (2006, several listens) [ https://open.spotify.com/album/3ZRfBtRGUUu2e5Snfy22Aa" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 19. (?) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12651#tag=%20%7bap:4692%7d" rel="nofollow - Art Zoyd / J.A. Deane / J. Greinke (1990, several listens)
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 11:21
And here's stab at Magma with pretty slapdash ratings. The debut remains the album of Magma that reigns supreme by the band. A fabulously ambitious and successful double-album from 1970 to kick off with imho. Kind of surprised it does not get more respect and recognition at PA.
So many bands to listen more to, and so few hours in the day (that you can spend listening to music) ...
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 16:25
^^ I have been into Magma for about twenty years (discovered it through Prog Archives). Magma is the act in Prog Archives which I have heard the most albums from. Art Zoyd comes next, then Swans in term of albums I know well in PA. Oh and maybe David Bowie after that in PA... I don't listen to Magma nearly as much as I once did, but I still do like to return to Magma music quite regularly (especially the debut and Attahk -- I love the breeziness of Attahk). The only act I have more than Magma by is Ennio Morricone, who is not included in PA, which I also do not listen to as much as I once did.
------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 24 2025 at 18:09
Cardiacs:
1. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7036#tag=%20%7bap:3182%7d" rel="nofollow - Sing To God (1996, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/sing-to-god-vol-i-ii" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/32nbMMfxn80SXFP2ZIiLMF" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 2. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7030#tag=%20%7bap:3166%7d" rel="nofollow - A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window (1988, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/a-little-man-and-a-house-and-the-whole-world-window" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/26ICJaOOji4RUVZX6AYrfJ" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 3. (S) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7032#tag=%20%7bap:3181%7d" rel="nofollow - On Land And In The Sea (1989, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/on-land-and-in-the-sea" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/3OBlIHWFY0Jvx8vj2oj5dA" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 4. (S) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/3167#tag=%20%7bap:3167%7d" rel="nofollow - Songs For Ships And Irons (1991, listened extensively) [AP Prog] [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/songs-for-ships-and-irons" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/4z1rGshN1XAnksFsxlHKg4" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 5. (S) https://awesomeprog.com/releases/3164#tag=%20%7bap:3164%7d" rel="nofollow - All That Glitters Is A Mares Nest (Live, 1995, listened extensively) [AP Prog] [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/all-that-glitters-is-a-mares-nest" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/0O8kkff2fTorUTbDVEFvax" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 6. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9588#tag=%20%7bap:3165%7d" rel="nofollow - Garage Concerts Vol.I (Live, 2005, listened extensively) 7. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9590#tag=%20%7bap:3172%7d" rel="nofollow - Garage Concerts Vol.II (Live, 2005, listened extensively) 8. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7029#tag=%20%7bap:3163%7d" rel="nofollow - The Seaside (1984, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/the-seaside-original-edition" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/47dboD7BdAbAhyjssyNYdh" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 9. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7034#tag=%20%7bap:3171%7d" rel="nofollow - Heaven Born And Ever Bright (1992, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/heaven-born-and-ever-bright" rel="nofollow - BC ] 10. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7037#tag=%20%7bap:3168%7d" rel="nofollow - Guns (1999, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/guns" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/3NEKuUhH5UIsPGgFCtD87k" rel="nofollow - SPO ] 11. (A) https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7031#tag=%20%7bap:3162%7d" rel="nofollow - Cardiacs Live (Live, 1988, listened extensively) [ https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/album/cardiacs-live" rel="nofollow - BC , https://open.spotify.com/album/1wHuhSf82hn856xS7HqdmB" rel="nofollow - SPO ]
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