zjedmir - crossover prog
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Topic: zjedmir - crossover prog
Posted By: zjedmir
Subject: zjedmir - crossover prog
Date Posted: May 15 2025 at 10:38
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Zjedmir (stylized zjedmir) first started creating music in summer 2023, and would go on to release various cheap-amateurish projects mostly inspired by more poppy songs, however by gradually learning more about music and getting used to it. He started to make more experimental and proggier music, beginning in august 2024 with 𓀬媌, continuing in march 2025 with an untitled album (1), and another one in may 2025 (2). These more recent albums are more explicitly inspired by bands such as Gentle Giant, Triana, King Crimson. With influences from RPI. Almost all tracks fall on the short side with the songs not lingering for long on melodies and themes. Every song is made on a 0 euro budget and zjedmir is currently only 16 years old. Often these songs are in collaboration with others, especially on vocals. (i dont like self-glazing but i guess i have to,,,) no image available |
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Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: May 15 2025 at 10:39
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzUJMHSjHrqDVm16720Iow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp6tfM5Zo50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxb-NzI_-lE |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 15 2025 at 16:40
| ^ Thanks for the suggestion. I had a listen to you first (untitled) album, and it's certainly unusual stuff, being mostly a mix of fairly stripped back jazzy and avant styles, I suppose. Unfortunately however, without a physical release of some kind available to purchase, or an album available for download from iTunes, Bandcamp or a similar platform, we can't consider you for inclusion on PA. The suggestion really needs to be moved to Unsigned Bands until you have an official release of one or more of your albums available for purchase somewhere. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: May 16 2025 at 14:02
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hello, i'll put it on bandcamp, i had been planning it for a bit, got stuck at having to put a genre, ill do it now and send when its finished thanks for the quick reply and thanks for considering it good enough to be added to the website if i had it available for download |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 16 2025 at 15:22
| ^ Hey, don't get ahead of yourself - I only said we'd consider you for inclusion on PA if you had it available for download. Your music has to be evaluated by a team of collaborators and approved by at least 2/3 of them before it can be added here. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: May 16 2025 at 16:03
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sorry man it just seemed that way https://zjedmir.bandcamp.com/album/2 anyway the most recent album is on bandcamp now,ill get by the other ones some time but its late right now |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 16 2025 at 17:06
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No worries. Any particular reason why you made it 'free download' rather than 'name your price' (which is essentially the same thing for those who choose not to pay anything)? There is an element of uncertainty regarding whether or not our evaluation teams would consider an entirely free release for evaluation, this needing to be a unanimous decision in favour of doing so by all the team members, and subsequently cleared by admins. See https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146&PID=3942759#3942759" rel="nofollow - this site policy and guideline for more details, the text of which I'll copy here anyway: Free-release Policy The Free-release Policy is to allow artists that have released their entire discography for free-download to be considered for inclusion into the ProgArchives database. The Free-release Policy does not apply to artists who have, or have had, CDs available for sale and permit free-download of only some of their material - those artists can be submitted under the normal Band Admission Policy. Free-releases can be accepted at the discretion of the appropriate Genre Team if they unanimously decide that the releases are of a professional standard and they clear it with the Admin Team first. Since these albums are not available from normal retail sources, the official band website address of where the download can be obtained should be listed in the "Releases information" section of the album page. To clarify for the hard of comprehending: this should be a link to the band/artist website page that contains the link to the download location rather than the direct download link itself. This is solely at the discretion of the Genre Team evaluating the artist and the Admin Team, no other opinion or influence is accepted and non-team members must abide by the decision when the artist is accepted or rejected for inclusion. If a Genre Team votes that a free-release is eligible, but then votes to reject the artists because they do not fit the subgenre, then they cannot pass that band to another team unless that team also unanimously decide that the release is eligible. What constitutes "Recorded and mixed in a professional manner, such that it meets commercial sound quality as found on average CDs released by commercial record companies" is subjective and difficult to define, however Genre Team members are experienced enough in listening to studio releases to be able to tell the difference and to make that judgement call. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: May 17 2025 at 00:34
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i dont have a paypal nor can i get a paypal as i am underage (17), i'd put it at name your price if i could i could put a friend's paypal as the paypal address instead and i'll see if that works if it really is necessary |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: May 17 2025 at 18:12
| ^ No, that shouldn't be necessary if you're going to be changing it to 'name your price' when you're old enough to have PayPal. I'm not really hearing your music as Crossover Prog though to be honest, but I do think it might have a chance of being included in the RIO/Avant sub, so I've asked that team if they'd be willing to evaluate in the first instance. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: May 18 2025 at 02:44
| sure you can put it as whatever genre you think it is, im bad at describing my own music |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 10:14
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Let's give a listen: there has been a huge number of talented sixteens in rock music. Remember the Santana drummer at Woodstock? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: May 22 2025 at 12:28
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The Santana drummer at Woodstock is in his 70's now, just like countless other prog rock talents of the bygone era (Steve Hackett, Rick Wakeman, Derek Shulman et al), so that's not a good comparison imo. However. From what I'm seeing, Gen Z-ers interested in making prog music are quite rare, so I'm happy that there's some young people out there willing to harken back to this, frankly, antiquated music genre as well as be active on the PA forum that has long been populated by mostly middle aged or elderly users. BTW I joined this forum when I was 17 years old! ------------- 
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Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 06 2025 at 10:26
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https://zjedmir.bandcamp.com/album/3 btw here is a new release, i personally find it way better and "prog" than the previous albums |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 17 2025 at 21:16
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The good news is that you've been cleared for addition to RIO/Avant Prog with three straight 'yes' votes. We normally include an image of some sort on a new artist's page on PA, but there are various reasons why some artists prefer to remain largely anonymous. However, https://musicbrainz.org/artist/7cb09543-d314-420f-b1ab-28589c8df18e" rel="nofollow - Musicbrainz says that you were born in Kadıköy, İstanbul (Türkiye) in October 2008. If this info is correct, do we have permission to include it in your biography? Maybe you have an original cartoon-like drawing/painting of some kind that you particularly like - and that hasn't already been used as an album cover - which we could use as the image on your page? |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 07:18
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hello sorry for the late reply yes the information is correct, i dont think its so relevant though, im not against it being included if you think the bio is too short as is reread my bio just now and i would like to remove the part about the "influences" and also add the info about the 3rd album being released (june 6th) for the image or idk if they are good images though i dont really have anything for it, im not the one who draws the covers |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 07:19
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UZazwAJGD15RMjXmd3HP99lfN7gbWAi8/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UZazwAJGD15RMjXmd3HP99lfN7gbWAi8/view?usp=sharing the images didnt embed |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 11:25
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The bio is very short as it is at the moment, so I'd really like to include a bit more information about your project if possible. I won't include the info about where you were born, or the parts that say: "and would go on to release various cheap-amateurish projects mostly inspired by more poppy songs", and "With influences from RPI". Also, instead of saying "Every song is made on a 0 euro budget and zjedmir is currently only 16 years old", I'd rather include some details about the physical instruments that you play, and the type of equipment that you use in conjunction with them to create your music - something along the lines of how your friend kywa lists instruments and equipment in the notes accompanying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MhpdJgB2dc" rel="nofollow - this video : bağlama, acoustic guitar, classical guitar, electric guitar, bass guitar, keyboards, melodica, misc percussion, recorder, trumpet, ukulele, venova, midi stuff - made with: musescore, ableton live, audacity, garageband. Anyhow, without the details of the instruments and equipment that you use, the biography as it is at the moment would read thus: Zjedmir (stylized zjedmir) first started creating music in his mid-teens in the summer of 2023, and by gradually learning more about music and getting used to it, he started to make more experimental and proggier music, beginning in August 2024 with 𓀬媌, continuing in March 2025 with an untitled album (1), and another one in May 2025 (2). These more recent albums are more explicitly inspired by bands such as Gentle Giant, Triana & King Crimson, though almost all tracks fall on the short side, with the songs not lingering for long on melodies and themes. Zjedmir's music is often created in collaboration with others, especially the vocals. A third album (3) was released on June 6, 2025, considered by the artist to be his most accomplished and proggy album to date. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 11:47
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Zjedmir (stylized zjedmir) first started creating music in his mid-teens in the summer of 2023, and by gradually learning more about music and getting used to it, he started to make more experimental and proggier music, beginning in August 2024 with 𓀬媌, continuing in March 2025 with an untitled album (1), another one in May 2025 (2) and a 3rd one in June 2025 (3) These more recent albums are more explicitly inspired by prog by bands such as Gentle Giant, King Crimson, ELP, Dezo Ursiny, Triana, etc though almost all tracks fall on the short side, with the songs not lingering for long on melodies and themes. Zjedmir's music is often created in collaboration with others, more specifically the vocals, song names, and covers are most often collaborated. Common collaborators are kywa and zelna. zjedmir plays bass guitar, and owns a keyboard, ukulele and guitar on top of that altough his skills there are limited. These instruments don't feature in the songs however, with zjedmir using instrument plug-ins and a DAW instead. All live instrumentals that can be heard in songs are from other people. is this good? |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 16:03
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^ Wonderful! I'll use that just as it is, plus the image that you shared earlier. Do you have decent cover images for the first album and the EP which you could let me have, since those two releases aren't on Bandcamp as yet, and images which are grabbed from YouTube videos tend to be a bit blurry? |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 23:08
| oh i was actually considering not to put them on progarchives as i dont find them good enough but if its necessary i'll send higher quality versions of them later in the day |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 19 2025 at 23:40
Edit: If you're not going to be making the first album and the EP available to download on Bandcamp (or any other digital platform) then I'll add them both in the 'Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo' section of your page. Normally the album would have gone in the 'top albums' section (which is a misleading heading really, since all studio albums officially released by an artist are included there). If it's not going to be made available for download anywhere though, then we'll just treat it as a demo or promo album. It's useful to include such albums on the site so that folks can hear how an artist's creative style has evolved over time. |
zjedmir wrote:Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 02:40
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alright ill make higher quality images later in the day, im fine with them being considered demo there is also another album that you didn't mention and also a video of some unfinished material of which ill send high quality images as well |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 08:08
| unfortunately i dont have any image that is in higher quality than in the video so it'll have to be in the quality its in on youtube, apologies |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 08:52
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Do you not still have access to the actual images that you used to make the videos with? All I can do to obtain images from the YouTube videos themselves is take screenshots of them, and then crop the image out from those, which will just result in a really poor image on your page once the PA software has resized it. I can usually get fairly good YouTube video images via a Google image search, but it seems that your videos are unlisted, so Google doesn't find the images contained within them via a search - it only finds the links to the videos on https://awesomeprog.com/artists/25965" rel="nofollow - Awesome Prog , since I added them to that site in readiness for the evaluation. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 12:00
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the cover arts were in my downloaded folder which i recently cleared fully to create space on my drive and they were deleted, yes i deleted my garbage bin aswell there is a slight chance that a slightly higher quality version is stored on the video making software but its unlikely but its not that much of a loss, my album covers, especially the old ones weren't very large so if i had a larger image for them it wouldnt be much different than just resizing the one you would get from the thumbnail everything you can see on my channel page is public, there are unlisted videos but those i find so horrendous i dont even want them under a demo subsection, sorry |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 14:22
| Okay, I'll do my best with the images that I can get via YouTube. I'll just add albums 2 & 3 in the 'top albums' section of your page - and album 1, the EP and the older release titled 𓀬媌 in the 'Official Singles, EPs, Fan Club & Promo' section. |
Posted By: zjedmir
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 15:56
| yeah thats alright, thanks |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: June 20 2025 at 23:03
And here we are: https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12990" rel="nofollow - https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=12990 . The YouTube screenshotted cover images didn't come out too badly after all.  Check through all your releases carefully to make sure I haven't screwed up anywhere lol! Note: It's standard PA discography policy to capitalise the first letter of all words making up song titles, irrespective of the language of origin. The rest of the letters are all supposed to be in lowercase, but I left the two song titles which contained words which were wholly capitalised in albums 1 & 2 just as they were. |