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Topic: SUB 58
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Subject: SUB 58
Date Posted: June 26 2025 at 23:04
A lot of four star albums on here when it comes to my music, but it's the two five star records that I will be picking from. Battiato's masterpiece or Unit Wail's best? Franck Fromy from Shub-Niggurath is playing guitar on the latter. I will be voting Battiato.
Surprised to see TULL's Benefit at #58. There's that many folk albums that are better? Subjective I know.

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 00:33


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 05:34
The Tulls.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 06:08
Shooting Albatross - which is said to be unlucky, but not for Abel Ganz.


Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 07:42
Phil Miller.

He is such an underappreciated musician who left us so much great music.


Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 08:15
Voted for Hawkwind. Beep Beep!

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 09:47
Franco Battiato's Sulle Corde di Aries is an exceptional album, and is my sure vote. I do like Unit Wail too and have liked Jethro Tull's Benefit very much -- good album, but not an album that I would rank high on my "folk" list. I get it at https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=6&syears=1970&salbumtypes=1&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=50&y=11#list" rel="nofollow - number two for Prog Folk for 1970 , just below Tim Buckley's Starsailor and just above Linda Perhacs' Parallelograms incidentally (rather than 1970 was a great year for folk with Tim Buckley, Linda Perhacs, Nico (not in PA), Exuma (not in PA), Pentangle, Trees, Pearls Before Swine, Jan Dukes de Grey, Tudor Lodge etc. by the way (and also 58 overall for our Prog Folk category using my filters of choice). Of course Jethro Tull is a hugely popular and big name, and I like the early material more than many.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 10:38
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Shooting Albatross - which is said to be unlucky, but not for Abel Ganz.


That's a band I need to check out. Some pretty good ratings for their last three albums anyways, including this one.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 10:42
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Phil Miller.

He is such an underappreciated musician who left us so much great music.


So true! And this is the first of a nice run of albums he did under the "In Cahoots" name I believe. This one has Hopper, Stewart, Pyle, Dean and more. Canterbury royalty comes together in 1987.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 10:49
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Franco Battiato's Sulle Corde di Aries is an exceptional album, and is my sure vote. I do like Unit Wail too and have liked Jethro Tull's Benefit very much -- good album, but not an album that I would rank high on my "folk" list. I get it at https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=6&syears=1970&salbumtypes=1&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=50&y=11#list" rel="nofollow - number two for Prog Folk for 1970 , just below Tim Buckley's Starsailor and just above Linda Perhacs' Parallelograms incidentally (rather than 1970 was a great year for folk with Tim Buckley, Linda Perhacs, Nico (not in PA), Exuma (not in PA), Pentangle, Trees, Pearls Before Swine, Jan Dukes de Grey, Tudor Lodge etc. by the way (and also 58 overall for our Prog Folk category using my filters of choice). Of course Jethro Tull is a hugely popular and big name, and I like the early material more than many.


I hope that in a couple of years I'll know Folk a lot better than I do now. It's just been from a lack of interest early on, but I did make up for it by picking up a lot of folk records in the early to mid 10's. I have a lot to get to. I recognize the names you mentioned, I just haven't heard most of them yet. I naively thought Benefit would be a fairly highly ranked folk album in part because it's Jethro Tull, and it is folk.

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Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 11:08
Phil Miller - wonderfully understated album. After that, Hawkwind's last classic album...


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 11:31
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Franco Battiato's Sulle Corde di Aries is an exceptional album, and is my sure vote. I do like Unit Wail too and have liked Jethro Tull's Benefit very much -- good album, but not an album that I would rank high on my "folk" list. I get it at https://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?ssubgenres=6&syears=1970&salbumtypes=1&scountries=&sminratings=1&smaxratings=0&sminavgratings=1&smaxresults=250&x=50&y=11#list" rel="nofollow - number two for Prog Folk for 1970 , just below Tim Buckley's Starsailor and just above Linda Perhacs' Parallelograms incidentally (rather than 1970 was a great year for folk with Tim Buckley, Linda Perhacs, Nico (not in PA), Exuma (not in PA), Pentangle, Trees, Pearls Before Swine, Jan Dukes de Grey, Tudor Lodge etc. by the way (and also 58 overall for our Prog Folk category using my filters of choice). Of course Jethro Tull is a hugely popular and big name, and I like the early material more than many.


I hope that in a couple of years I'll know Folk a lot better than I do now. It's just been from a lack of interest early on, but I did make up for it by picking up a lot of folk records in the early to mid 10's. I have a lot to get to. I recognize the names you mentioned, I just haven't heard most of them yet. I naively thought Benefit would be a fairly highly ranked folk album in part because it's Jethro Tull, and it is folk.


I think it is fairly highly ranked, especially with it at number two for 1970 (which to me is a very strong year), and 58 overall is nothing to sneeze at, but that's just a matter of perspective. Being Jethro Tull, it gets lots of attention but many don't appreciate pre-Aqualung JT as much as I do. I love lots of folk music -- I'm more of a folky than a rocker. Of course Jethro Tull is very much both (folk and rock, folk rock). My favourite folk in PA often is acid folk like Spirogyra and Comus. I love the Catherine Roibeiro stuff. Perry Leopold's Christian Lucifer is one of my very favourite albums (woderful album). My favourite modern folk artist is Sufjan Stevens (who might be added to PA ere very long), and Woven Hand is great. I love Joanna Newsom (not in PA) and have been enjoying The Decemberists again of late....

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 11:54
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Phil Miller.

He is such an underappreciated musician who left us so much great music.


So true! And this is the first of a nice run of albums he did under the "In Cahoots" name I believe. This one has Hopper, Stewart, Pyle, Dean and more. Canterbury royalty comes together in 1987.
Also, check out their live album recorded in 1986-1989, released in 1991. It is excellent and has Pip Pyle on drums.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 12:15
Have to go David Torn ahead of Unit Wail and Hawkwind

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 12:56
David Torn – Cloud About Mercury

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 17:04
Three personal favourites here with Holger Czukay & Rolf Dammers, Zoviet France, and Franco Battiato. Battiato already has three votes, so I go for Canaxis 5 with Zoviet France not much behind.

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Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 17:09
Phil Miller. Forever & always.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 21:32
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Voted for Hawkwind. Beep Beep!


I'm a big fan of Levitation myself. The art work, packaging and music is all so well done.

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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 21:35
Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Phil Miller - wonderfully understated album. After that, Hawkwind's last classic album...


So good to see Phil Miller getting lots of love here. I used to get him and guitarist Phil Lee mixed up back in the day. Two Phils, and both Canterbury guitarists.

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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 21:38
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Have to go David Torn ahead of Unit Wail and Hawkwind


Back to back Torn votes. Nice. Another Hawkwind mention.

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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 27 2025 at 21:44
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Three personal favourites here with Holger Czukay & Rolf Dammers, Zoviet France, and Franco Battiato. Battiato already has three votes, so I go for Canaxis 5 with Zoviet France not much behind.


I thought of you when I saw Canaxis 5. I don't know that Zoviet France record. So cool that Holger would record
stuff from the radio, like the Vietnamese singing.

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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 28 2025 at 05:43
Lazuli's best album imo.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: June 28 2025 at 09:41

Benefit

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: June 28 2025 at 22:44
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Lazuli's best album imo.


Nice to read this. I have a couple of theirs from early on that I wasn't into, but not this one. Some high ratings for it.

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"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN


Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: June 30 2025 at 18:49
Battiato over Tull here.

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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 18 2025 at 05:38
DeeExpus-The King Of Number 33


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: July 19 2025 at 04:35
I adore Benefit.
I love Unit Wail-Retort and Caligula's Horse- The Tide, The Thief & River's End

Give Unit Wail a listen if you like Zeuhl.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 19 2025 at 09:38
Jethro Tull-Benefit is actually the one Tull album I'd rate a 10/10 (Stand Up, Aqualung & TAAB come close). Love Franco Battiato-Sulle Corde Di Aries as well.


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: July 19 2025 at 13:23
Levitation

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