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Topic: Progressive songs from non-prog bands
Posted By: gdub411
Subject: Progressive songs from non-prog bands
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 15:10

I was listening to Ritual de Lo Habitual from Janes Addiction the other day and couldn't help think that 3 of the songas were a bit prog.

1. Three days...probably the least of the three but still damn entertaining(over 11 minutes I might add as well

2. Then She Did....if this isn't prog then I don't have a clue I guess

3. Of Course.....very eccentric and a great tune for anyone who loves the violin.

I was wondering if anyone else has come across unlikely bands that have done a prog song or two




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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 15:17
I think Telegraph Road by Dire Straits is prog.


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 15:51

So is "Brothers in Arms" - DS played on the outskirts of prog just about from the word go, IMO.

Jane's Addiction might be pushing it a bit tho' - superb band and way out there, but next you'll be saying that the Red Hot Chili Peppers are prog! Progressive is not equal to prog, or we'd have the Beatles in the archives

I reckon that Muse's "Absolution" is a prog album, as is "OK Computer" by Radiohead.

Then there's my old favourites, Diamond Head, the original prog metal band. However I could see the floodgates opening for Def Leppard (their 1st 2 albums were in much the same vein as DH) and several other NWOBHM bands that tried their hands at prog.

I would also add Budgie - their "Bandolier" album is an absolute gem.

Lastly, Metallica - say what you like about the general tone of "Kill 'Em All", "Ride The Lightning" and "Master of Puppets" - those are 3 of the most progressive metal albums EVER. Heck, even Dream Theater cover stuff from that album.



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 16:04

I'll be shot down in flames here, but if anyone remembers 'The fields of the Nephilim' and an album called 'Elysium' (spelling dubious!) You may recall that despite being a 'goth' band that album was full of extended play and a variety of mysterious moods. At the time some reviewers called them the 'goth Pink Floyd' I liked them for a while on one of my excursions from metal and prog  Their song 'Last exit for the lost' was also a bit proggy IMO.

I think the 'Cure' album 'Kiss me kiss me kiss me' also had some prog leanings.

I would definately agree with Metallica and Dire Straits (The latter never appealed to me..zzzzzz)



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 16:05
..and some Talk Talk maybe?? Certainly 'My foolish friend' and 'Lifes what you make it'

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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 16:27
I'd say Talk Talk's last two albums are full prog.  They're actually listed on the archives.


Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 16:30

surely you're joking- Talk Talk being already listed on this site and all

I've made my feelings about Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation" known.

What about "Marquee Moon" by Television?

i'll go along with "Telegraph Road", no problem...but given that Knopfler was influenced by Springsteen, someone will finally have to agree with my assertion that his first three or four albums had a definite amount of prog content ("The Wild, The Innocent, and the E- Street Shuffle" especially). Unless, of course, you deny that longer songs with numerous stylistic and rhythmic changes around a conceptual narrative have anything to do with prog

 

 



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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 17:27

November Rain - Guns & Roses

Closer to Home - Grand Funk Railroad

Shorty Blackwell - The Monkees

Mass in F Minor -The Electric Prunes

Baba O'Riley - The Who

Heroes and Villains - Brian Wilson



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 17:29

A lot of what Muse do is prog.I'm with certified on that! There's also Mansun who did some prog stuff especially on their Six album.

Others:

Be Bop Deluxe -Blazing Apostles/Sleep That Burns/Between The Worlds

ELO - From The Sun To The World

Paul McCartney - Band On The Run

Iron Maiden - Ryme Of The Ancient Mariner

Lone Star - Bells Of Berlin

Beatles - A Day In The Life

Led Zep - Achilles Last Stand

The Who - Baba O' Riley

The Stranglers -Nice N Sleazy

Budgie - Napoleon Bonaparte

The Tubes - Up From The Deep

Radiohead - Paranoid Android

Deep Purple - Child In Time

Boston - Foreplay

Keith West - Excerpt From A Teenage Opera

Richard Harris - Macarthur Park

Tubeway Army - Are Friends Electric?

Simple Minds - Waterfront

 

 

 

This thread is deja vu all over again!

 



Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 18:01
What of Diamond Head's songs are proggy? The only one I heard which I suppose could be called prog was "The Prince", and based on that I bought the best of (for £2.99) and wasn't too impressed. It didn't help that only one song I'd heard and liked that was actually on it was "Am I Evil?" but still, The first two or three tracks just seemed like the same stupid lyric line over and over again... I'm not judging all of their output on that, I've heard at least three or four tracks I liked.


Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 18:02
Oh and that Jane's Addiction album is great, shame the new one just sounded dull to me... I can't remember what "Of Course" sounds like though, but the other two you mentioned i love.


Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 18:03

Cave In have a prog sounding track called Seafrost on there last album 'Antenna'

Black Sabbaths 'children of the Sea' sounds kinda Prog to me too..



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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 19:08

Several of the tracks on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath have a Prog feel, Spiral Architect being a good example. Good album IMO.



Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 19:30

 Guns & Roses November Rain was selected.....how about ESTRANGED?

How about the entire Quadrophenia album by the Who.

and Achillies Last Stand is definately prog!!

 



Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 19:39
Stargazer and Gates Of Babylon by Rainbow?


Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 21:07

Damned if I can remember the tunes title, but Golden Earring had a couple of proggy songs.....



Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 21:19

Quote November Rain - Guns & Roses

Not...



Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: August 31 2004 at 21:24

 

Some examples:

ALPHAVILLE - Forever Young from 'Forever Young'

A-HA: The Sun Always Shines on TV from 'Hunting High and Low'

ULTRAVOX: Astradyne, Vienna and Western Promise from 'Vienna', The Voice, Stranger Within, Accent on Youth and The Ascent from 'Rage in Eden', Serenade, Hymn and Visions in Blue from 'Quartet', Lament, Heart of the Country and A Friend I Call Desire from 'Lament'

OMD: Stanlow from 'Organisation', Sealand, Joan of Arc (Maid of Orleans), Architecture & Morality and The Beginning and the End from 'Architecture 6 Morality'



Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 00:24

There are some:

  1. She's a Rainbow (Rolling Stones)
  2. Ryme of the Ancient Mariner (Iron Maiden)
  3. Overture, Underture, Amazing Journey, The whole Quadrophenia (The Who)
  4. Woyaya (OSIBISA)
  5. Blinded by the Light (Manfred Mann & The Earth Band) *
  6. Lights (STYX)
  7. In A Gadda Da Vida (Iron Butterfly)
  8. I Don't Like Mondays (Bob Geldof & The Boomtown Rats)
  9. Stairway To Heaven (Led Zeppelin)
  10. Flight of the Phoenix (Grand Funk Railroad)

Iván



Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 03:13
'Exit music for a film' & 'Lucky' - Radiohead - the greatest prog band that never was.........

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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 03:15

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

What of Diamond Head's songs are proggy? The only one I heard which I suppose could be called prog was "The Prince", and based on that I bought the best of (for £2.99) and wasn't too impressed. It didn't help that only one song I'd heard and liked that was actually on it was "Am I Evil?" but still, The first two or three tracks just seemed like the same stupid lyric line over and over again... I'm not judging all of their output on that, I've heard at least three or four tracks I liked.

Diamond Head were the first prog metal band. OK, there's no Mellotron or Hammond - but neither is there in, say, Dream Theater.

DH released 3 "Genuine albums", apart from the recent stuff which I haven't kept up with; "The White Album", "Living on Borrowed Time" and "Canterbury". Of these, only the very rare White Album truly shows what Diamond Head were made of, as their career was extraordinarily badly managed for such an obviously gifted band, and even the superb "Living on Borrowed Time" is a pale shadow of the might of the White Album (AKA Lightning to the nations). "Canterbury" suffered from the fact that the band were going through musical differences, and one early batch of pressings was faulty, rendering it unplayable (although to be fair, with the musical differences, the result bordered on the unlistenable).

DH's "White Album" was way beyond anything that had appeared under the umbrella title of metal, with "more good riffs in a single song than on any Black Sabbath album" (to quote Geoff Barton of Sounds magazine - NOT my opinion!). Note that we are not talking prog a la Genesis, KC et al, but a new form that Heavy rock/metal had hinted at for ages in the hands of Led Zep, Deep Purple, Sabbath etc. With the latter 3, the music strayed into prog territory regularly, but was intrinsically rock'n'roll. With Diamond Head, things suddenly got a bit more pretentious, and rock'n'roll was more incidental, as they moved heavy rock into heavy metal proper for the start of the NWOBHM - but avoided the simple structures adopted by later metal bands.

Note also that Diamond Head were one of the main influences on Metallica, who produced an amazingly tight, if somewhat sterile cover of "Am I Evil" on the flip side of "Creeping Death" back in 1984.



Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 04:30

Any Hum fans here? I think they may have a little prog in them. Great live show, too.

 



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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 05:08
Practically everything by
Pere Ubu


Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 05:43
Good call, man-erg...Pere Ubu is a great example of the 'prog side of punk' that many people miss. "Dub Housing" is my favorite of their albums.

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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 05:53
How about Kate Bush' The ninth wave (the B-side from Hounds of love)?


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 06:00

Originally posted by Dragon Phoenix Dragon Phoenix wrote:

How about Kate Bush' The ninth wave (the B-side from Hounds of love)?

Cant argue, there DP. Ninth Wave is very conceptual, atmospheric and epic.



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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 06:22
The whole second side of the "Hounds of Love" album sounds like a conceptual sequence to me. And, of course, there was the Gilmour connection...

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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 07:58
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Good call, man-erg...Pere Ubu is a great example of the 'prog side of punk' that many people miss. "Dub Housing" is my favorite of their albums.

Cheers James.Dub Housing is my favourite too.
On your previous topic re:-Hum.I saw them @96/97ish
at The Garage,Highbury & Islington,London. They were
absolutely brilliant.


Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 11:00
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

November Rain - Guns & Roses

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! Never in a million billion trillian gazillion years. Here's what I wrote on the subect in an identical thread a couple of months back...

>>GUNS N' ROSES: 'November Rain'

PROG? Are you MAD??? Confused My god, if you think a string section and 11 minutes of repetitious dreary, pretentious and above all corny "please take us seriously" style rock ballad warbling is prog, then you are sadly mistaken, my friend.

This piece of sh*t is cringeworthy from the "aren't we cultured" grand piano opening to the turgid, clumsy and howlingly predictable coda.

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but come on! The song totally parodies its own genre, yet G'n'R, and it seems, their fans, are utterly oblivious to the humour, which makes them fair game for ridicule in my book<<

Sorry 3f8s but I feel very strongly about this one. Still m8s, I hope?

(ps. French and Saunders do an even funnier version, with Dawn French playing Slash, now that's funny)



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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 12:06

I agree emdiar - GnR produce one good, OK great album in "Appetite for Destruction" and all of a sudden they can do no wrong, even when everything released posthumously is bland (and that's being nice!).

I am not keen on the habit of rock bands to get in an orchestra to show how far they've come - Metallica, I mean you!!! Those orchestras must love the money, but get bored to tears by all the repetitive drivel they are forced to play.

Now Spinal Tap with an orchestra - that I'd pay money to see



Posted By: goose
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 13:20

Regarding Diamond Head:

I was planning on getting the debut album before i saw the best of for £2.99 in HMV. Looks like I should have stuck with my first idea...



Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 13:29
I've often thought, those orchestra wallas must take the piss something chronic as soon as the bands nip out for a biffta or whatever. You can imagine the huge private joke going on, while the likes of A. Rose is poncing around like a right prima donna, kidding himself that he has as much as a grain of culture under his kilt. (that's another thing Axel, if you aint Scottish, it's a skirt!)

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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 13:29

I'll stick my neck out a bit further and throw in:

Bat out of hell (title track of the album) - Meatloaf



Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 13:48
Originally posted by Dragon Phoenix Dragon Phoenix wrote:

I'll stick my neck out a bit further and throw in:

Bat out of hell (title track of the album) - Meatloaf

I can live with that funnily enough. If not prog, it is at least a masterpiece of theatrical pomp. November Rain, on the otherhand, is unmittigated bollocks.



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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 14:23

I take "November rain" at face value, without any preconceptions about the band behind it or their motives. On that basis, I love the song, and support the suggestion that it is indeed prog.

I reckon Meatloaf's work with Jim Steinman, and indeed Steinman's "Bad for good" album, are very progressive. Ironically, they have probably been tarnished by their massive commercial success, but I reckon they are still worthy of inclsion on this site.

 



Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 14:49
Generally speaking I cannot stand Gun's and Roses and that includes November Rain but I must insist that Estranged is quite proggy. That is the one song in their catalog I actually like.


Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 15:53

Russians - Sting

Novocaine for the Soul - Eels

Stairway to heaven - Led Zeppelin

Chariots of Fire - Vangelis

B side of Beatles' Abbey Road LP

 



Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 15:58

Here's one for you; "Reggae Fi Dadda" from "Making History" by Linton Kwesi Johnson. Pure poetry set to the sort of reggae which should appeal to any Prog head. Give this one a try!



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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 16:49

Novocaine for the Soul by the Eels?

Can't hear the prog - but I hear the gob-smacking inventiveness! That is a truly great song, and a hugely imaginative structure, but it's not prog.

Thanks for reminding me of its existence - I MUST go and listen to it NOW!!!



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 16:52

Kate Bush - 'The Dreaming' always felt like a prog album to me.She certainly got a lot of criticism from the music press for being too 'experimental' and 'self indulgent'.Must be prog then!



Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: September 01 2004 at 19:30

Ms. Bush? This is the Prog Colony calling. Yes, yes, we know you're not keen on being lumped in with us old pharts, but most of us love your work and you'll never hear us call you artsy or pretentious...the thing is, if I may be blunt, we need women. Badly. We're starting a biosphere project for progressive rockers and there just aren't enough females to go around; you'd be doing Annie Haslam a big favor, taking the load off, etc....no, David hasn't called us back yet. We think he's hedging his bets just in case he can be identified with someone new and hip. He left what at your flat? ...er, anyway, think it over, but don't take too long; some of the younger lads aren't as keen on you as they were back in the 80s...me? I think you still look pretty good. Not as good as Danielle Dax, maybe, but...hello? hello?



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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 09:58

For a minute there, James, I thought you were calling G.W.'s wife....

Anyway, I always thought CSN&Y's  Suite: Judy Blue Eyes... is quite prog.




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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 10:35
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Anyway, I always thought CSN&Y's  Suite: Judy Blue Eyes... is quite prog.

 

Certainly adopts a certain classical music structure in its arrangement. BTW it si  my favourite CSN (and they do it well on the Woodstock movie)



Posted By: Hammar
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 12:20

 

Elton John - Funeral from a Friend (goodbye yellow brick road).



Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 13:11
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Novocaine for the Soul by the Eels?

Can't hear the prog - but I hear the gob-smacking inventiveness! That is a truly great song, and a hugely imaginative structure, but it's not prog.

Thanks for reminding me of its existence - I MUST go and listen to it NOW!!!

You're right. I wrongly call "prog" any good or different pop

 



Posted By: maani
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 21:16

Tomorrow Never Knows, A Day in the Life, Strawberry Fields Forever, I Am The Walrus (The Beatles)

Baba O'Riley, Won't Get Fooled Again, some of Tommy and Quadrophenia (The Who)

Kashmir (and others on PG), Achilles Last Stand, Nobody's Fault But Mine (Led Zeppelin)

So Help Me God, Dive, Red Letters (DC Talk)

Dream On (Aerosmith)

Almost everything (XTC)

Everything (Babble)

That's all I can think of for now.  There's plenty more...

Peace.



Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 22:11
Dream On is NOT prog!!!!


Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 22:36
Originally posted by Marcelo Marcelo wrote:

Chariots of Fire - Vangelis

I've always thought of this new age band as the one that couldn't entirely make it inside the prog rock world... but still, most it's essence flows through the prog stream.  The album "Heaven and Hell" is very progressive, ("Heaven And Hell Part I / So Long Ago, So Clear" and "Hell and Heaven Part II")

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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 13:07
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

 

Dream On (Aerosmith)

 

 

Dream On prog rock?!?Confused

Are you trying to get into Liv Tyler's pants?

Dream On!



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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 14:54
Originally posted by Hammar Hammar wrote:

 

Elton John - Funeral from a Friend (goodbye yellow brick road).

And dare I say "Tonight" too, a beautifully crafted track.



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 07:56
Heres one! .........edit.......sorry just bringing a copied therad to the front again for an airing

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:06

If I may be permitted to add to my inane offerings earlier in this thread..

No Quarter and Rain Song by Led Zep are very prog IMO.

Also 'March of the Black Queen' by Queen. Infact the whole second side of Queen II flows like one big prog epic.



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:15
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

If I may be permitted to add to my inane offerings earlier in this thread..

No Quarter and Rain Song by Led Zep are very prog IMO.

Also 'March of the Black Queen' by Queen. Infact the whole second side of Queen II flows like one big prog epic.

In fact the whole album Queen II is a prog masterpiece.



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:16
The Crunge (Led Zeppelin, Houses Of The Holy) is a stunning example of odd signatures.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

If I may be permitted to add to my inane offerings earlier in this thread..

No Quarter and Rain Song by Led Zep are very prog IMO.

Also 'March of the Black Queen' by Queen. Infact the whole second side of Queen II flows like one big prog epic.

In fact the whole album Queen II is a prog masterpiece.

I love Queen II, I must get a copy on CD.



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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 08:21
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

No Quarter and Rain Song by Led Zep are very prog IMO.

Have you heard Tool's cover of No Quarter on Salival?  AMAZING

simultaneously intense and spacey.  and definitely prog...



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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 09:48

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

A lot of what Muse do is prog.I'm with certified on that! There's also Mansun who did some prog stuff especially on their Six album.

I agree!
Citizen erased and The Stockholm syndrome are good examples!
By the way, I noted various Muse-sounding sections in some of Dream Theater's Octavarium tracks (especially Panic attack and Never enough)

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Boston - Foreplay

Yeah! And what about the Walk On medley?
(about ELO, Deep Purple and some Beatles I have already written in other threads)

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


This thread is deja vu all over again!

John Fogerty?
That by the way reminds me of Creedence Clearwater Revival's Walk on the Water, which I think could belong in the "prog" department



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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 09:54
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

In fact the whole album Queen II is a prog masterpiece.

How can I disagree??? It's simply wonderful! I love it a lot!

About November Rain by G'n'R: if it were SUNG and not just screeched upon by the hideous "voice" of Axl Rose, it would be a complete masterpiece...and the ending (thanks to God Axl's voice is not so prominent there) is definitely prog!!!

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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 10:40

Of course, prog's influence stretched to all types of music.....Chick Corea and Stanley Clarke had Yes/ELP/Crimson in mind when recording Romantic Warrior.....Tom Verlaine used to lead his "punk" band Television on noodling proggy guitar jams.....Lou Reed early solo stuff, with Wakeman, Levin and Winwood contributing, had definite progressive elements....Earth, Wind and Fire and Funkadelic, it can be argued, are essentially funk-prog bands!  Suffice to say that prog element may be found in ALL genres of contemporary music.

Anyway, some of my fave "prog" numbers from non-traditional prog bands:

Jane's Addiction did some great proggy rock....Three Days being maybe my favorite song of the nineties! 

Elton John.....Love Lies Bleeding (Funeral for a Friend).....he does a Wakeman parody!

Led Zep's later period was influenced by prog rock....starting with Houses of the Holy they started incorporating moodier pieces driven by JP Jones' syths and keys.  Another great prog number is Carauselambra from In the the Out Door.....a personal favorite.

 



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Posted By: duffman
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:12

Me, i would say the whole Tommy and Quadrophenia album by the Who

and The Ziggy Stardust and Diamond Dogs album by David Bowie



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Posted By: Infinity
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:23

Who said November Rain by GnR!? Check yo's self before you wreck yo'self! that's about as prog as Ice Cube!

Led Zep - Achilles Last Stand

Coheed & Cambria - In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth 3

Dillinger Escape Plan - Miss Machine....not prog but sounds progressive in terms of pushing boudaries, similar situation with Sikth and Mew - the former 2 with metal the latter with pop.

Kate Bush

.....ELO - may have been progressive in some way but they're just horrible to my ears.....that vocal makes my skin crawl, I just can't believe they were writing with the same intenentions...

Dead Meadow, Canyon and Cave In are all great and worth checking out.....not saying they're prog just check them out!

.....next thing someone will be saying Aerosmith for god's sake!!!.....hang on a minute!

 

 



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Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 11:35
The Doors - Riders on the Storm

----Chumbawumba????????


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Posted By: Flyingbebert
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 12:29

Nobody talked about "Sir psycho sexy" by the Red Hot chili Peppers (album Blood sugar sex magic) even if it's the third time I see this topic ! Yet it's an amazing song : funky, funny, "proggy"  !

Something else by the RHCP : "Deep kick" in the album "One hot minute" (and "Warped" is excellent too, with its oh so nice ending after the violent and impressive beginning)

Don't forget the Smashing Pumpkins too : "Porcelina of the vast oceans", "through the eyes of ruby" in the famous album "mellon collie and the infinite sadness", and their previous contains some really good tracks (not necessary prog however : "today" is gorgeous)



Posted By: sorcerer
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 14:25

 I can't believe that everyone missed what i consider the most important example of normal bands slipping into an altered state - Terrapin Station by the dead! phenominal. I agree that Bruce Springsteen had some particularly fine moments with The Wild, the Innocent and the E-Street Shuffle, most notably,Rosalita, New York City Serenade and Incident on 57TH Street. Other Springsteen examples: Jungleland, Thunder Road, Lost in the Flood, to name a few. I also think that Hum is an extremely proggy band and worthy of a lot more attention.

"Which of you to gain me tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell, i will not forgive you if you do not make the choice, Sailor made at least a try, the soldier being much too wise, strategy was his strength, and not disaster" - Terrapin Station - The Grateful Dead



Posted By: Josmatrovic
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 15:04

Metallica - The Call of Kthulu

Primus - Tommy the Cat

Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven, Achilles Last Stand and No Qarter

 



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Posted By: Sir Hogweed
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 16:39

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Now Spinal Tap with an orchestra - that I'd pay money to see

Indeed! Or Bad News on their 'Masturbike' reunion tour with orchestra'.



Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 16:58
Father To Son - Queen
Station II Station - David Bowie
Bennie And The Jets - Elton John
A Light In The Black - rainbow
Dazed And Confused - Led Zeppelin

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Posted By: comicbookguy
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 17:05

My top 6 would be:

1.'Trilogy' - Sonic Youth

2.'Great Hosannah' - Kula Shaker

3.'I am the ressurection' - Stone Roses

4.'La femme d'argent' - Air

5.'Did you miss me?' - Cooper Temple Clause

6.'Forever' - The Charlatans



Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 17:06
K2 - Don Airey (the entire album)

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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 17:07

Oh forgot to mention.

From Her To Eternity - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds



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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 17:30

I don't think 'November Rain' resembles prog- it's certainly preposterous, long and overblown, yet strangely entertaining- but that doesn't make it prog. And yeah, 'Use Your Illusion' was a horrible affair- I must confess to not being the biggest G'N'R fan anyway, but 'Appetite For Destruction' is undoubtedly a classic, though there's little else of worth.

'Sixty Years On' by Elton John, as I remember it, was quite progressive- I think it was on his first album. I felt 'Grey Seal' was a neat bit of pop-prog too- some nice mellotron on there.

'The Man Who Sold The World' album by David Bowie is quite proggy, especially 'Width Of A Circle' and 'The Supermen'.

'Tomorrow Or Yesterday' by Samson, from their first album (and the 'Metal For Muthas' album) is a great prog tune- very reminiscent of Manfred Mann's Earth Band, especially the great keyboard solo by Gillan keyboard player, Colin Towns.

Also on 'Metal For Muthas' was a band called Angel Witch, and a song called 'Baphomet', which was very Rush-esque; a little like 'Cygnus X1' and brilliant!

As for Diamond Head, I thought 'Am I Evil' was quite progressive, with lots of complex solos and time changes, but was also a huge influence on thrash metal over the years.

Iron Maiden...where do I start? There are loads of progressive tinged songs in their catalogue;     

Transylvania, Phantom Of The Opera, Prodigal Son, Genghis Khan, Hallowed Be Thy Name, The Prisoner, To Tame A Land, Powerslave, The Duellists, the whole of 'Seventh Son...' plus 'Childhood's End' from 'Fear Of The Dark'.



Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 17:39
Originally posted by comicbookguy comicbookguy wrote:

2.'Great Hosannah' - Kula Shaker

 
Crispin Mills from Kula Shaker once listed Close to the Edge as his favorite ablum of all time.


Posted By: DolphinFan
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 17:51

Defining artists/bands as progressive or not is a hard enough task; defining individual songs is almost impossible.  However, using the progarchives band listing as a litmus test for artists, here are some songs that have always struck me as "prog-rock" to a lesser degree:

Paul McCartney - Band on the Run, maybe Live and Let Die

Blood, Sweat, & Tears - Spinning Wheel

Phish - Maze, maybe some others...

Chicago - Beginnings, others...

Wishbone Ash - The King Will Come

Beatles - Most of Abbey Road, especially 2nd half beginning with You Never Give Me Your Money, have other songs that could be considered prog-lite I suppose



Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 19:26

every zep album has 1 or 2 prog songs even though they are not a prog act, same goes for hendrix and black sabbath...the who are not considered prog but basicly all of tommy is prog and the same could go for quadrophena...and the beatles in my opinion are pre prog, you cant say that revolver,sgt pepper,the white album and abbey road didnt have some impact and influence on progressive rock...anyway.

the end-the doors

therapines station-the grateful dead

bohemian rhapsody-queen

a lot of songs on mellon collie and the infinite sadness-smashing pumpkins

as you said-cream

estranged-guns n roses

 

 



Posted By: boo boo
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 19:29

sorry for the double post.

 



Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 20:07
 There are some mightily confused folks on here


Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 06:03
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I don't think 'November Rain' resembles prog- it's certainly preposterous, long and overblown, yet strangely entertaining- but that doesn't make it prog. And yeah, 'Use Your Illusion' was a horrible affair- I must confess to not being the biggest G'N'R fan anyway, but 'Appetite For Destruction' is undoubtedly a classic, though there's little else of worth.


'Sixty Years On' by Elton John, as I remember it, was quite progressive- I think it was on his first album. I felt 'Grey Seal' was a neat bit of pop-prog too- some nice mellotron on there.


'The Man Who Sold The World' album by David Bowie is quite proggy, especially 'Width Of A Circle' and 'The Supermen'.


'Tomorrow Or Yesterday' by Samson, from their first album (and the 'Metal For Muthas' album) is a great prog tune- very reminiscent of Manfred Mann's Earth Band, especially the great keyboard solo by Gillan keyboard player, Colin Towns.


Also on 'Metal For Muthas' was a band called Angel Witch, and a song called 'Baphomet', which was very Rush-esque; a little like 'Cygnus X1' and brilliant!


As for Diamond Head, I thought 'Am I Evil' was quite progressive, with lots of complex solos and time changes, but was also a huge influence on thrash metal over the years.


Iron Maiden...where do I start? There are loads of progressive tinged songs in their catalogue;     


Transylvania, Phantom Of The Opera, Prodigal Son, Genghis Khan, Hallowed Be Thy Name, The Prisoner, To Tame A Land, Powerslave, The Duellists, the whole of 'Seventh Son...' plus 'Childhood's End' from 'Fear Of The Dark'.


Fear of the Dark also features Afraid to shoot strangers, which is a nice example.

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Posted By: Citanul
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 08:12
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Iron Maiden...where do I start? There are loads of progressive tinged songs in their catalogue;     

Transylvania, Phantom Of The Opera, Prodigal Son, Genghis Khan, Hallowed Be Thy Name, The Prisoner, To Tame A Land, Powerslave, The Duellists, the whole of 'Seventh Son...' plus 'Childhood's End' from 'Fear Of The Dark'.


Their latest two albums, Brave New World and Dance of Death also feature a number of extended, almost prog songs.


Posted By: Johnny-The-Fox
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:55
Triumph - Blinding Light Show / Moonchild


Posted By: Tonny Larz
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 13:50

Hey guys..here are few...IMO...real prog tracks:

MAN (brilliant wales outfit)from their album: "Back into the future"

track: "Never say nups to nepalese" !!

PRETTY THINGS: " S.F.Sorrow" the whole album!!!!

TEMPEST ( no not the folk/rock/prog outfit)the UK band from 1972

featuring Jon Hiseman/Alan Holdsworth etc.

Track:"Upon tomorrrow".   And as a matter of fact, a few other tracks from that album!!

Go seek em out progfreaks!!

 

Tonny.



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:11

Sinead O'Connor - Troy

Captain Sensible - The Coward Of Treason Cove: a conceptual piece of music, 15 minutes long, on a great album: Revolution Now!

 



Posted By: Publius
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:36

Originally posted by Dragon Phoenix Dragon Phoenix wrote:

I think Telegraph Road by Dire Straits is prog.

YES. Yes it is, and a lot of their stuff verges on prog. Brothers In Arms for its great structure, Tunnel Of Love for another fantastic and varied structure, Private Investigations for its picture painting.



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Posted By: Publius
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:37
Ah and also, Station To Station by David Bowie. sh*t song, but its prog.

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Posted By: Arioch
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:41

An old thread by Gdub. I wonder what is up with that witless wonder these days?.

Actually, I don't want to know.



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Posted By: Publius
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:41
Ah, what was his take on it?

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Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 16:50
Originally posted by Flyingbebert Flyingbebert wrote:

Nobody talked about "Sir psycho sexy" by the Red Hot chili Peppers (album Blood sugar sex magic) even if it's the third time I see this topic ! Yet it's an amazing song : funky, funny, "proggy"  !

Something else by the RHCP : "Deep kick" in the album "One hot minute" (and "Warped" is excellent too, with its oh so nice ending after the violent and impressive beginning)

Don't forget the Smashing Pumpkins too : "Porcelina of the vast oceans", "through the eyes of ruby" in the famous album "mellon collie and the infinite sadness", and their previous contains some really good tracks (not necessary prog however : "today" is gorgeous)

 

Excellent choices man!  But you forgot the song "Tonight, Tonight" off Mellon Collie.

 



Posted By: The Minstrel
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 17:42
The Velvet Underground had some proggy tracks.  The Murder Mystery, Europeab Son, and most notably Sister Ray.


Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:46
MARTHA & THE MUFFINS "The Sinking Land"
(beautiful piece of symphonic rock from their debut album "Metro Music",
produced by Gong's Mike Howlett. Actually the whole album is smart,
virtuosic pop with clever riffs and proggy touches - and their third, "This
Is The Ice Age", is a very atmospheric and experimental album)

SIOUXSIE & THE BANSHEES "Switch"
(fullblown prog track closing their debut album "The Scream", giving lie to
the notion that all the first generation punk bands hated prog. Actually,
the whole album may appeal to many progheads, and their
"Kaleidoscope" and "Peepshow" LPs are superb too)

POISONGIRLS "Where's The Pleasure?"
(not a track, but an album - not really prog in the conventional sense, but
very eclectic and witty in its musical references, taking in everything from
funk to children's music, RIO to acapella church music - they were
certainly one of the wittiest and most inventive bands to emerge from
punk)


Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 16:18
Stonehenge by the mighty Spinal Tap exhibits definite prog overtones - the keyboard break in the middle (where the Stonehenge monument is in danger of being crushed by a three foot dwarf) sounds like Rick Wakeman with a hangover.

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Posted By: Baazetu
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 16:33

Somebody discussed about Guns and Roses.

I don't know if it's prog but COMA is close to be an epic. LOCOMOTIVE could be



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Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 16:48
Originally posted by The Minstrel The Minstrel wrote:

The Velvet Underground had some proggy tracks.
 
If they could have played their instruments, more people might have noticed this.


Posted By: Don_Frog
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:05
Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits, at lest the long version.

Going Home by Mark Knopfler


Posted By: Josmatrovic
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:25

The End by The Doors

The doors could be progressive if they had try



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:40

I believe that a non-prog band recorded not one sole progressive song, but and entire fluke progressive album.

 

 

Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by the Flaming Lips is as prog an album as Close to the Edge. The only thing it may not have is frequent unusual time signatures and IMO if you think that a band cannot be prog without having unusual time signatures, then you need to rethink your beliefs and get some perspective.

 

 It has an amazing theme, message or concept (I sum it up as thus: someone struggles to believe in the redeeming value of the good things in life in light of a friend’s death and the negative feelings brought on by that event) and it employs various defined prerequisites of a progressive rock work, mainly the use of keyboards to create atmosphere, and the use of studio technology to tweak and create interesting [parts of] songs. I used the definition of “progressive rock” that maani presented in his interview with Rick Wakeman.



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Posted By: AbsentEnemy
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:57
Incubus - The Odyssey (from the Halo 2 soundtrack. Incredible song. 27 minutes, mostly instrumental).

Yngwie Malmsteen - Trilogy Suite Opus 5. (his absolute best composition. Almost more melody and actual music than guitar w**kery).


Coma by Gn'R is pretty damn close to prog. And Sir Pshyco Sexy is a great one. Goes from pure funk to mellotron bliss.


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 00:21
Gov't Mule - _Silent Scream_ - off of their latest album _Deja Voodoo_
Gov't Mule - _Sun Dance_ - with Chris Squire on bass and Johnny Neal on keyboards - off the _Deep End, Vol. 2_ album
Gov't Mule - _Babylon Turnpike_ - I'd say this was more Jazz/Fusion as it has Alphonso Johnson (Weather Report and Jazz Is Dead) on bass

Possibly: Allman Brothers Band - _In Memory Of Elizabeth Read_ and _Dreams_

I hear prog stuff in Neil Young too.


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Posted By: Shaman
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 00:44

 

Blue Oyster Cult-Don't fear the reaper

Led Zeppelin-The song remains the same & the rain song

Journey's first three albums have some prog tunes



Posted By: Solids2k
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 01:13
Led Zeppelin - In The Light


Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 02:33

Originally posted by Politician Politician wrote:

MARTHA & THE MUFFINS their third, "This
Is The Ice Age", is a very atmospheric and experimental album

A bit off-topic, but that is one of my all-time favourite albums. And 20 years later, it is finally available on CD (which is now on its way to my home from Canada....)



Posted By: Winterfamily
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 07:50
Originally posted by Dragon Phoenix Dragon Phoenix wrote:

Originally posted by Politician Politician wrote:

MARTHA & THE MUFFINS their third, "This
Is The Ice Age", is a very atmospheric and experimental album

A bit off-topic, but that is one of my all-time favourite albums. And 20 years later, it is finally available on CD (which is now on its way to my home from Canada....)




Martha And The Muffins... Their first LP was produced by Gong's Mike Howlett, if i remember it well. Besides, i think it's one of the best pop albums i've heard in all my life.







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