Proggy Jazz-Fusion
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Topic: Proggy Jazz-Fusion
Posted By: John Gargo
Subject: Proggy Jazz-Fusion
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:24
I used some of my Christmas money to buy Miles Davis' BITCHES-BREW and I love it! What are some other proggy jazz-fusion albums that I should check out?
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:39
I'm not an expert in this field, but Herbie Hancock's Sextant would be a good choice IMO.
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:46
Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour ('76)
Brand X - Moroccan Roll ('77)
Soft Machine - Fourth ('71)
Soft Machine - Bundles ('75)
Bruford - The Bruford Tapes ('79)
Nucleus - We'll Talk About it Later ('71)
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats - ('69)
Frank Zappa - Grand Wazoo - ('73)
National Health - Of Queues and Cures - ('78)
I don't know the American stuff to well, but Mahavishnu Orchestra are highly recommended though they never grabbed me.
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Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:59
Get
Return to Forever- Romantic Warrior
It's amazing. My favorite jazz-fusion album. It's very proggy.
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 13:59
- Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
- Brand X - Moroccan Roll
- Brand X - Live Stock
- Soft Machine - Fourth
- Soft Machine - Seven
- Soft Machine - Bundles
- Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mouthing Flame
- Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire
- Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior
- Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
- Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka
- Frank Zappa - The Grand Wazoo
- Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All
- Passport - Looking Thru'
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:28

Neil Ardley-Kaleidoscope of Rainbows
Get this album, you will not regret it!!! It is one of the best albums I have ever heard, period.
Also, you might want to try the first Nucleus album, Elastic Rock, an
excellent release and the best place to start exploring their
discography.
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 14:47
Definitely check out:
Forgiving Eden - A Triggering Myth
The Sins of Our Saviours - A Triggering Myth
Between Cages - A Triggering Myth
Crafty Hands - Happy The Man
Happy The Man - Happy The Man
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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:04
In addition to what everyone else has already recommended:
Billy Cobham - Spectrum
Bruford - Feels Good to Me
Bruford - One of a Kind
Gong - Gazeuse
Gong - Expresso II
Al Di Meola - Elegant Gypsy
Al Di Meola, John McLaughlin, Paco de Lucia - Friday Night in San Francisco
Jerry Goodman & Jan Hammer - Like Children (very rare, but excellent)
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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:06
BTW, am I the only one who prefers the first Return to Forever album, with Airto Moreira on percussion and the great Joe Farrell on flute and sax, to Romantic Warrior? It isn't prog by any means, but I prefer it.
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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:08
As I have mentioned before, don't forget to get the Go live album, as it has Dimeola, Winwood, Klaus Schultz (Tangerine Dream), drummer Michael Shrieve and leader Stomu Yamashta (I think there is also a multi disc that has the two studio albums the live is based on).
I also highly recommend the Mahavishnu Orchestra cds if you like that Miles, as John Mclaughlin (guitarist/leader of MO) plays on many of Miles' fusion cds. Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire are two that come to mind. When I put the Miles I have (and I have a bunch) on with Mahvishnu, they work together seamlessly.
Return to Forever and Weather Report made good albums, but they seem more mainstream to me, and a little more trendy.
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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:12
Mahavishnu Orchestra is amazing, you should really check them out. Also take a look at Billy Cobham's brilliant "Spectrum" if you take a liking to MO, and, if you can get your hands on it, Jerry Goodman and Jan Hammer's "Like Children."
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:28
John, agree with you about Bitches Brew, you might also want to try In A Silent Way by Miles, its predecessor.
Just look at the players on Bitches Brew...John McLaughlin; I endorse kenmeyerjr's view, try the first two Mahavishnu Orchestra albums, Inner Mounting Flame and Birds of Fire; also Weather Report (Joe Zawinul & Wayne Shorter), e.g. Black Market, Heavy Weather (also sometimes featuring Jaco Pastorius, who took electric bass playing to new heights). Also Chick Corea and Herboie Hancock featured on Miles' work though I don't know enough about them to recommend specific albums. Keith Jarrett too but he's definitely stayed in the jazz field though his "Survivors Suite" is experimental and includes, in between the free-form (or tuneless if you're being cynical) jazz, some of the most haunting melodies you'll hear.
Moving away from the Miles Davis theme, worth trying some of Bill Bruford's stuff, especially jazzy is his first album, Feels Good To Me.
Another seminal album that has jazz influences but in truth is hard to categorise is Frank Zappa's Hot Rats, mostly instrumental and thereby allowing FZ to concentrate on the music rather than his humorous if often tasteless lyrics!
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:33
No one is talking about how influential Davis was for Carr, the trumpet
player in Nucleus (and band leader, although Jenkins wrote more stuff
on the first and second albums). Carr has even collaborated and written
books about Davis, so Nucleus is a must!!!
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:35
meurglysIII wrote:
No one is talking about how influential Davis was for Carr, the trumpet player in Nucleus (and band leader, although Jenkins wrote more stuff on the first and second albums). Carr has even collaborated and written books about Davis, so Nucleus is a must!!! | Well I have to admit Nucleus are outside my experience but sounds interesting.....
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Posted By: kenmeyerjr
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:38
Also, as far as Miles himself goes, I have a bunch of live albums that are amazing...he has so many, it is hard to pick and afford them! But, so far, what I have all seems great, and that is
Get Up With It
Live Evil
Pangea
Agharta
Dark Magus
These are all double cds, featuring extended songs (sometimes taking up a whole album side)...great for working along with.
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Posted By: In the Court of
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:06
I might be going out on a limb, but Magma's (the group) early stuff, maybe?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 17:11
In the Court of wrote:
I might be going out on a limb, but Magma's (the group) early stuff, maybe?
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Not in my book you aren't, I've been wearing out Kobaia recently. I'd say so.
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Posted By: TimothyLeary
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 19:16
the polish band sbb
gamalon a band from buffalo new york
tasavallan presidentii lambertland
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Posted By: Shaman
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 19:22
Check the following:
Area
Return to Forever
Steve Hillage
Allan Holdsworth
Chick Corea
Spyro Gyra
Weather Report
Al Di Meola
Scott Henderson/Tribal Tech
Greg Howe
Pat Metheny
Frank Gambale
John Scofield
Mike Stern
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Dixie Dregs
Lyle Mays
Jean Luc Ponty
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Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 19:33
Picchio Dal Pozzo's self titled
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Posted By: progreviews
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 00:38
If you like Bitches Brew then a modern, slightly freer take on a similar aesthetic is John Zorn's band Electric Masada. Two albums, both live - the recent At the Mountains of Madness and last year's http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=em-504 - 50th Birthday Celebration Volume 4 . Both are absolutely stellar and the Fender Rhodes presence really reminds me of Miles' classic fusion bands.
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Posted By: WhiskeyVegeance
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 01:45
John Gargo wrote:
I used some of my Christmas money to buy Miles Davis' BITCHES-BREW and I love it! What are some other proggy jazz-fusion albums that I should check out? |
Heh, dude, John, what's up? It's Conner from DVD Maniacs...
I'd recommend Weather Report's early stuff. It's basically the logical extension of the whole Bitches Brew concept. Alot of the rhythm stuff (esp. the bass) foreshadows King Crimson's Wetton-era funk improvs damn closely... I think you'd enjoy it.
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 06:31
Scott Henderson/Tribal Tech and Vital Tech Tones
And as much of Allan Holdsworth stuff as you can carry
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