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Topic: Edward Macan's Rockin' The Classics
Posted By: RaphaelT
Subject: Edward Macan's Rockin' The Classics
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 04:24
Have you read this book?? It is a general work covering roots of style, which later was called 'progressive rock' and its development in late 60s/early 70s, providing overall view of main classic prog bands (especially KC, Genesis, Moody Blues, Yes, Gentle Giant and Van Der Graaf Generator), which IMHO is very good for prog rookies.
 
However it is a group of essays of main features of prog, such as sociological background of prog musicians and prog fans, musicological analysis of prog "masterpieces" (author recognizes as such "Tarkus", "Close To The Edge", "Firth of Fifth" and whole "Wish You Were Here"), instead of giving detailed information about particular groups.
 
So, what's your opinion about that book? Do you consider it useful as an introduction to prog knowledge for newbies and source of looking for new bands (I learned about Gentle Giant, Caravan, Van Der Graaf Generator, Banco, Le Orme, Canterbury School from it, which prompted me into some purchases) and what do you think of author's opinions?? 


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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 04:44
It may have been helpful before the internet. Now that you have this site, what's the point?


Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 04:56
for general overwiev, and to systematize your knowledge

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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 07:21
Although I am not religious I have to say that this book is my bible! I have read it many times, it is such wonderful and varied book, from a sociology (the influence of the White-Anglo Saxons) and the visuals (mainly Keith Emerson and Peter gabriel) to the analyse of four progrock compositions (Firth Of Fifth, Close To The Edge, Tarkus and Wish You Were Here). HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 08:07
Greg,
 
Although there are many sites that develop prog,>> none goes as far in depht as a book does. Plenty of interesting chapters , although a few points I disagree with  >> can't win them allWink
 
Overall Macan's book is helpful; and to be completed with more readings, most notably Martin's Look Into the Future
 
Furthermore, nobody is ever going to read on the web such a long book , or else he would download it and print it  to azctually read it. A book simply cannot be repleaced


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rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 08:48
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Greg,
 
Although there are many sites that develop prog,>> none goes as far in depht as a book does. Plenty of interesting chapters , although a few points I disagree with  >> can't win them allWink
 
Overall Macan's book is helpful; and to be completed with more readings, most notably Martin's Look Into the Future
 
Furthermore, nobody is ever going to read on the web such a long book , or else he would download it and print it  to azctually read it. A book simply cannot be repleaced
 
ClapClapClap
 
There's nothing more to add, actually... I find reading long texts on the web quite stressful for my eyes, and IMHO nothing will ever replace a good book. That said, it's a pity that "Rocking the Classics" was published over 10 years ago . It would be great if the author decided to revise and update the original edition to include more recent developments of prog.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 09:53
I have the book and it's an interesting read if you're already familiar with the music, but I wouldn't recommend it as an introduction. It's a bit too intellectual in places (it reads like a thesis) and there's too much musical theory which a lot of people won't understand.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 17 2006 at 10:21
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I have the book and it's an interesting read if you're already familiar with the music, but I wouldn't recommend it as an introduction. It's a bit too intellectual in places (it reads like a thesis) and there's too much musical theory which a lot of people won't understand.
 
It WAS a thesisWink


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:02
Chopper, you are right that prog is about listening to music, and not learning a theory (although the idea of progressive university is very tempting for me, perhaps we could run such course online, how would you like it??), however prog fans in general are people who have wider interests than every one else, generally they are cleverer than ordinary pop fans and are eager to know of literary and social background of their favourite musical genre... Prog fans just learn books, watch movies and understand them!!

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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:15
What about krautrock in that book? I think that Macan has omitted mentioned kind of progressive music. However "Rockin' The Classics" is very useful for all fans of progressive music. 

 

 


Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:36
You are right about krautrock, it generally is a flaw of that book.
Germany had some kind of parallel development of prog, especially in the field of electronics.


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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:44
Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

You are right about krautrock, it generally is a flaw of that book.
Germany had some kind of parallel development of prog, especially in the field of electronics.


There are opinions that bands from Germany were more creative, inventive than bands from UK.


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 12:47
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17505 -
A thread long under way on the same subject - in the book review section...........
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17505


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 19 2006 at 16:49
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I have the book and it's an interesting read if you're already familiar with the music, but I wouldn't recommend it as an introduction. It's a bit too intellectual in places (it reads like a thesis) and there's too much musical theory which a lot of people won't understand.
 
It WAS a thesisWink

That'll be why then!


Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: May 20 2006 at 05:27
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