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Topic: zappa and zeuhl
Posted By: Rashikal
Subject: zappa and zeuhl
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 23:25
for example, the instrumental part in the middle of "fembot in a wet t shirt" sounds zeuhlish

is it just me


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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 23:31
    I think that Zappa was so original, and so out there, that at times he could sound like just about any genre. I do, however, sometimes hear some similarities in the approach.

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Posted By: I|I|I|I|I
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 23:57
Yeah, I would say that Zappa's avant-garde approach to music and composition could well come off like the strange pseudo-jazz classical music that is Zeuhl. I certainly hear moments where he sounds like Zeuhl. I doubt Zappa was conscious of the similarities, however.

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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 01:05
     Considering that Christian Vander of Magma (as well as Soft Machine, Yes, Henry Cow, etc.) claimed to be influenced by early Zappa, it would seem that Zeuhl had aspects of Zappa. Spritually, Magma took a lot from John Coltraine, formally from modern classical (as Zappa did too).


Posted By: cscrutinizer
Date Posted: June 22 2006 at 17:08
The keyboards on Inca Roads (in the beggining) are totally zeuhlish... The chirpy, highly modulated kind of thing, similar to something you'd hear on Udu Wudu or Attahk. Of course, that song has an extra-terrestrial subject matter...
 
Of course, I wouldn't accuse FZ of ripping them off or even being under the influence of Magma... But I would be surprised if he had never heard their music. If anything, like the previous post indicated, FZ was an influence on so many people. I addition, Daniel Denis of UZ claims Zappa influence... Of course, these are mainly European bands...
 
I read an interview with Dwezil about the Zappa plays Zappa tour. As you may (or may not) know, the tour started in Europe, and there was some ambivalence about brining it to the U.S., because most Americans are familiar with "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" and most of Zappa's toilet humor, and not so much the great stuff he did...
 
Nonetheless, I am glad they are playing in the U.S., and I look forward to seeing them this Saturday! They've just gotta play Peace Corps... It's so fitting...



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