Hard to replace musician....
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Topic: Hard to replace musician....
Posted By: The T
Subject: Hard to replace musician....
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 21:05
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I think when Brufford left White replaced him with no problem... when Wakeman left, Moraz for me even surpassed him in Relayer... when Moraz was outed, Wakeman had no problems, off course... when Anderson left it was a disaster but lasted only for one album (and a decent album at that)....when Howe left.... CHAOS....90125.... When GAbriel left, Genesis still released masterpieces....when HAckett left, DISASTER....when Collins left the damage was already done, genesis were already crap so it wasn't a big deal.... So I think Hackett's departure, followed by Howe's |
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Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 21:53
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Definitely Hackett. Genesis started to slip after he left then completely abandoned prog with Abacab just a few years later. |
Posted By: AcostaFulano
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 22:02
| Genesis started going downhill down to where they are NOW... playing some stinky pop tunes for some bucks |
Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 22:20
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I'd have to honestly say, from the choices given above, my vote would be Gabriel. Whoa, you say...what about TOTT and WAW, two great albums? The slip really began with ATTWT... Yeah, I see your point...but for me, Gabriels presence was what really put Genesis over the top as one of the mainstays of prog rock. His stage persona really defined Genesis (and prog in general by extrapolation). He brought the sense of the mysterious, the unknown, the weird, the beautiful to the band. Without him, for me at least, his absence really reduced Genesis to yet another fine prog band status. If you doubt my point of view, consider how many prog bands through the years count Gabriel's Genesis as a main influence, vs. those that find their main influence as Wind and Wuthering... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Single Coil
Date Posted: November 10 2006 at 23:49
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I'm gonna have to sat STEVE HOWE. I guess to me, his tone and style are a big part of what makes it sound like Yes to me. Probably because I was first introduced to Yes with Fragile. ------------- If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud! |
Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 00:02
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Well, just a personal opinion but it has to be JON ANDERSON. Yes without Jon's vocals is worse than 80's releases ------------- ********** **razifa** ********** |
Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 00:26
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Gabriel and Hackett both hurt Genesis when they left. I think the first couple albums after Gabriel left were good, but lacking something. After Hackett left, however, disaster ensued. ------------- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- Evelyn Beatrice Hall |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 04:58
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Both bands managed to write some enjoyable albums in the absence of the mentioned musicians.
The only leaving that led to a complete disaster was the departure of Steve Hackett.
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Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 07:04
| Gabriel and Hackett |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 10:44
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Absolutely no contest here - Steve Hackett leaving was a blow Genesis never recovered from.
These days, I would much rather go and see Hackett in concert than Genesis. (He is cheaper too!)
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 11:17
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Gabriel, his leaving layed the foundation for what Genesis would become.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 18:16
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Ill go with Anderson, as if there is someone that reaaaaaaaaally does not need to be replaced, this is it! Everyone votes for Hackett...but the truth is when Hackett left Genesis changed completly, its not like they tried to cover up the lack of him, they changes their sound dramatically, so I dont see that as a replacement...
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 11 2006 at 18:17
Thats cause Yes without Anderson is not Yes ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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razifa wrote:Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: November 12 2006 at 04:19
| Jon Anderson - YES |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 01:30
Good line of reasoning - I agree.... |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 01:58
I agree  ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 04:53
Hackett. So hard to replace they didn't even try 
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Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 05:43
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when gabriel left genesis, they lost their leader, their voice, their message.
sorry ... but every band has a message to send.
...........calling all stations  ------------- if left is wrong i don't wanna be right... 
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:05
| Nice poll. Tough choices, but I think it has to be Hackett. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:10
| Jon Anderson would be impossible to replace. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 07:45
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Another vote for Hackett! Rutherford is a fine guitarist but didn't have the unique magic of the Hackett sound. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 11:44
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It all went down hill when steve Howe left and it went back up when he came back. ------------- 
JOIN THE COMMUNIST PARTY! |
Posted By: Prowler84
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 17:37
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Gabriel was the "voice" of Genesis.Big loss.. ------------- Steve Harris isn't a God,A God is a Steve Harris |