Jethro Tull Appreciation thread
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Topic: Jethro Tull Appreciation thread
Posted By: rainbow111
Subject: Jethro Tull Appreciation thread
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 14:53
Okay...they deserve this, they really do! My mom really introduced me to them and gave me Aqualung as a present, I only ever heard Ronnie James Dio sing the song Aqualung (from his days in The Elves). I also knew of A Song for Jeffrey, as of the video with Tony Iommi on it... But I've come to love Jethro Tull and decided to make an appreciation thread for them (as I did with Renaissance)... ------------- It's got to be slow Taking love the only way It's got to just flow Making love and taking time to let it grow |
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:06
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Their best albums were recorded in the seventies. You can't be wrong with these albums. You can forget the others, with the exception of 'A' which had to be initially a Ian Anderson album, but finally was recorded as a Tull album : it has no more Barrie on drums but deserves your attention for the presence of Eddie Jobson on electronics/electric violin. It's the last Tull album in the vein of their folk/symphonic prog trademark developped in the seventies. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: rainbow111
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:13
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a lot of bands have their leader do a solo album, but it's turns out as a not solo album (like Tony Iommi's Seventh Star or Ian Anderson's A) ------------- It's got to be slow Taking love the only way It's got to just flow Making love and taking time to let it grow |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:37
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For me, their twin peaks are 'Thick As A Brick' and 'Songs From The Wood'. Two of my very fave prog albums. I also love their first four albums ('Stand Up' and 'Aqualung' especially), 'Minstrel In The Gallery' and 'Heavy Horses' are very good, 'Broadsword' and 'Crest Of A Knave' are two of the better 80s albums by a prog band. Everything else...well I wouldn't rush to hear them, let's put it that way.
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Posted By: rainbow111
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:38
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Oh I love Thick as a Brick ------------- It's got to be slow Taking love the only way It's got to just flow Making love and taking time to let it grow |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:39
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My personal JT favorite is Heavy Horses with Aqualung as a close second. Taab sometimes is a bit boring.
A great band who made loads of good music.
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:46
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I've really been getting into "War Child" lately, I can't stop listening to it. I love ever note of TAAB, It never gets boring for me. ------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 15:50
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The Whistler is going to be here any second now... TAAB is defiantly an awesome album and each phrase of music is superb. Aqualung is also a superb work, as are Songs from the Wood and Minstrel in the Gallery. All Classics! ------------- 
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Posted By: blazno
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:07
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JT - one of my favourite bands ever. They were also my ticket to the wonderful world of prog rock. Almost everything they recorded in the seventies is A+ material.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:09
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Wonderful band, and one of the best represented in my collection(17 albums) I think TAAB is just a little overrated, IMO Aqualung is the best  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Sir Pommes
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:14
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Jethro Tull is great I love the album Thick as a Brick |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:16
*sigh*
Alright people pull out your led pipes. -------------
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The Miracle wrote:Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:20
| I really like Heavy Horses. |
Posted By: blazno
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:23
Same here... -------------
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:33
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I love A Passion Play. It's one of my personal favorite prog albums from the 70's. I love it for the same things as many people hate it. (My very first signature was a rabbit like the story) My very first Tull album was Roots to Branches and I love it as well. It isn't a masterpiece, but still a very strong effort. ------------- 
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 16:45
| I'm surprised The Whistler didn't start this thread. |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 18:32
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Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 18:45
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Make sure to get Ian's Secret Language of Birds. It's almost Songs from the Woods Part Two.
Seems like everyone has mentioned everything except their two good '80s albums. Crest of a Knave is pretty good almost like a less focused Aqualung. Broadsword and the Beast is great, don't let anyone tell you any different. Make sure to get the remastered one with all the bonus tracks.
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Posted By: lightbulb_son
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 18:48
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Absolutely amazing band.
I'd take their 70s output over anything else recorded in that decade.
Songs From The Wood is easily my favorite. TAAB is amazing too, and of course you can't forget Aqualung. ------------- When the world is sick Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong 
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Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 20:44
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I am absolutely in love with Thick As A Brick-orgasmic!
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Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 21:01
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They were what got me into this style of music starting with 'Witch's Promise' and then 'Teacher', 'Stand Up' and then 'Benefit'.
I was a young teenager living in Hobart, Tasmania [Aust.]. I used to stay awake at night listening to 2 SM, which I could pick up with a mantle radio on my bedhead with a specially rigged antenna. This was a Sydney radio station and they had a late night show playing music that was generally described as 'underground' back then. Later, I heard 'The Advent of Panurge' for the first time and my appreciation of progressive music leapt even further forward. People are way too critical of their later releases imo. I think 'Crest of a Knave', 'Roots to Branches' and 'Dot Com', in particular, have some excellent stuff on them. The 'Christmas Album' has some great re-arrangements of old yuletide tunes and is very good for what it is imo [particularly for this time of year] I enjoy the 'Living with the Past' DVD [love those heavier versions of 'Cross eyed Mary', 'A New DAy Yesterday' and 'Hunt by Numbers' to name a few]. The acoustic session with the strings and the blues reunion of the original band [yes, with Clive, Glenn and Mick ]is a must for any Tull enthusiast I would have thought. Saw them live in Brisbane in May of last year and was blown away still [I had seen them in London in 77]. Very tight and entertaining despite the obvious wear and tear on IA's voice. Great play list with some surprises in the older material played. As I've said on other threads, please don't talk of TULL as if they're deceased or no longer with us. They are indeed 'Alive and Well and Living in.....' the NOW! Here ends my contribution to this appreciation thread. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 21:03
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Yes, let's not forget 'Benefit', often overlooked as neither proggy nor folky, but a truly important transition for the band and, in fact, for prog. A great metallic-Baroque sound is achieved and helped pave the way for much later music.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 21:41
| No one has mentioned Stormwatch. A pretty solid album itself(a bit like Benefit, not a classic, but pretty good), but the remaster has 4 of the bands best ever bonus tracks. Not to mention North sea oil and Dun ringill which are great tunes plus some other pretty cool songs. This would be one of the bands best years in the studio. The Heavy horses and SFTW remasters are great too. 'A' is one damn cool album also. Living in the past and TAAB are probably the best original releases. Warchild is the greatest remaster which consists of the movie soundtrack album(which is purposely a commercial pop album), plus 7 excellent prog bonus tracks. Broadsword is one of the best remasters with 8 bonus tracks(although only half of those are great). Pity it didn't include the full session with 16 bonus tracks. Benefit, This was and Stand up are also great remasters with excellent bonus stuff. Every remaster is worth the money. Even Crest of a knave, Minstrel, Aqualung and Too old have at least one strong bonus track. APP is a cool album too. Roots and Dotcom are cool too. Why didn't Roots include the 5 unreleased songs? Catfish missed several bonus tracks too damn. Not happy about Ian leaving off songs from the catfish, rock island, broadsword, heavy horses and aqualung remasters |
Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 21:52
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Benefit is the first album of JT as we know them, quite a drastic departure from the first two albums, a real precursor to Aqualung.
“With You There to Help Me,” “Nothing to Say,” “Inside,” “To Cry You a Song” – all these songs sound very much like songs from Aqualung. Thick As a Brick is probably their best. A Passion Play is ok. Everything past it presents a good song here and there but no comparison to TAAB. |
Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 21:59
| Thick as a Brick got me into prog before I even knew what it was. Positively astonishing. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:04
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Cheers. Excellent thread. But it's missing something. Lemme see...how do I express my love for Tull...oh yes!
 NOW it's official. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:05
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This Was is a bit underrated, Aqualung a bit overrated (musically speaking, nothing to do with me being biased toward catholicism) and I guess the albums that could get you into the band are TAAB, Songs From The Wood or Heavy Horses; once you've acquired the taste you should definitely get Stormwatch, A Passion Play, Minstrel In The Gallery, Warchild and Aqualung... and so on ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:05
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TaaB was my first open door to 70's prog and, actually, 70's music in general. I loved it on first listen, it was a nearly magical experience. Years of gradually discovering the rest of their oeuvre followed and it all reached a peak when I saw them live in Bucharest in 2004... Much has been said, so I'll only remind everyone of the wonderful Roots to Branches... Just in case anyone thinks their creative juices were dry in '95, listen to that album carefully. ------------- Tous les chemins qui s’ouvrent à moi ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:08
RTB's a great album indeed... although a bit into hard rock territory it has nice jazzy pieces like Wounded, Old and Treacherous; Out Of The Noise and Dangerous Veils... although the more heavy songs are decent as well. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:16
| Roots to Branches looks (sounds, actually) like a recovering from the illness (two previous albums), which is pretty close to reality too, remembering Ian Anderson's own story. |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:35
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Tull had some cool songs in 1991. What's wrong with Night in the wilderness, Silver river turning, Rocks on the road, Roll yer own, Tall thin girl, Still loving you tonight. That's 6 very decent songs if you ask me |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:53
 I especially like Dot Com, Glad to know I'm not the only one.------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 22:55
| Dotcom has 5 or 6 excellent songs. It all trickles down is a cool B side aswell. 1999 would be one of the bands best years in the studio and even better than half of the 70s studio sessions |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 23:15
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Oops.. sorry I had mistaken the topic .. back to this one.
I enjoy those albums... however the Dire Straits vibe in COAK and RI is too much over the place (whilst I don't hate Dire Straits, I'm not much into his music either). Budapest is a great track on the record (it drags live) and I also feel warmhearted by songs like Strange Avenue, Part Of The Machine, Sparrow On The Schoolyard Wall or Stuck In The August Rain. But on the whole, their 70's output fits more my taste, specially their folk era and mid transitional 74-76 era... I haven't put TAAB in the spinning table for quite some time, as well as APP. I guess I work by seasons. ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 01:34
Whoah! Wait a second, previous two albums? Wouldn't that include Catfish? You didn't like Catfish?!? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:34
Stormwatch is one of my favorite Tull albums! "Dark Ages," "Dun Ringill," "Flying Dutchman"...outstanding! And I agree, the Broadsword remaster is one of the best. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:38
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Stormwatch is a solid album, true enough. I never really got Elegy though, until I heard a live version (from http://www.raylomus.com/Jethro_Tull.html - http://www.raylomus.com/Jethro_Tull.html , for reference's sake). I'm not sure why, but the album version was pretty, but I never really liked Barre's electric presence. In the live version, it all clicks. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:41
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Just re-listened to Catfish Rising and J-Tull Dot Com. Well, I have to admit that my previous impression was worse. But still -- decent, decent... That's the word. I used to be amazed by Jethro Tull. I don't like to hear Jethro Tull when they sound like... doesn't matter who. Catfish Rising, Rock Island, even Crest of a Knave sound, somehow, not too original. I can't say I don't like it, the only Jethro Tull album I really don't like is the notorious Under Wraps, but... Roots to Branches has something new, something fresh in it -- in its sound, in the overall atmosphere. J-Tull Dot Com (re)-impressed me even more than Catfish Rising, but, again, it has a sound similar to... the older Jethro Tull.
Please not to get me wrong, however -- I'm trying to be as objective as it is possible... for such a JT fan as I am.
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:42
No mention of North sea oil and Crossword?
 Those songs are awesome
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:44
Liar. You can't be a true Tull fan unless you adore all of their output. As it stands, I'm now convinced that Under Wraps is the greatest album ever created, and intend to make 600 anonymous reviews at Amazon telling everyone so.
(Uh, I haven't heard Dot Com just yet, or much of the "heavy metal" period, other than my Catfish. In fact, I own nothing past Wraps other than Catfish, so this ain't my area of experitise). ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:54
Great sense of humour
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 02:59
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The Catfish session is similar to the Broadsword and Warchild sessions. They are all patchy albums, but each has many outtake songs. You can almost make a classic album from the best 10 songs of each session though. Pick your fave 10 songs from the Warchild remaster(include March the mad scientist and Bungle in the jungle remix from 1974). Pick your fave 10 songs from the Broadsword remaster(include jackalynn version 2, motoreyes, curse, commons brawl, no step, drive on the young side of life, lights out and crew nights). Pick you fave 10 songs from the Catfish remaster which has Night in the wilderness I believe(include silver river turning, truck stop runner, i don't want to be me, rosa on the factory floor, piece of cake). Try it and you will see |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:01
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So is my sense of humor good or bad?
Smithers: I'm not sure there are very many 30 tack albums...perhaps we should shoot lower? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:03
Who said anything about 30 track albums? I was talking about making your own versions of Warchild, Broadsword and Catfish with 10 songs on each
 . There are several great Dotcom songs on the site I showed you. Have a listen |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:07
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OH! I thought you meant a mutant beast, borne of tracks from all three albums...which is actually an awesome idea! I'll call it: Warchild Rising and the Beast! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:11
Neither good nor bad. It's great...
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:22
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Awesome.
By the way, what the dude, crap? O're at Amazon (my favorite site of the night), Truck Stop Runner was my favorite Catfish Reject, and it's not on any of the remasters! Not even Crest of a Knave. In fact, Roots doesn't even seem to have any new tracks on it... Could Ian be...low on money?!? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:31
| Acquainted with Nightcap? Check there... |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:35
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Nightcap? That's like, the definition of "Ian needs money." Can't I show the lads how much I love them in some less costly way, say, sending them a pint of my blood or something? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:40
| What kind of answer (if any) are you expecting? |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 03:43
How about: "Well, I've got a needle if you've got a rubber hose?" ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 04:31
Truck stop runner and Silver river turning should have been on the Catfish remaster  .
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 04:39
Jethro Tull were, are and will be the most favourite band of mine!
 During the years I've collected all their studio and live recordings plus some compilations and dvd.
I also love all the Ian's solo albums but I only own the last from Martin, titled, Stage Left (which is very good, btw).
What I could say more?
I even love Under Wraps. I enjoy every second on it! Tundra, General Crossing, Later That Same Evening...the only so-and-son thing is when Ian plays drums but, hey, he is Ian Anderson: how could I blame him? He is one of the most complex artists in the whole rock history!
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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 04:49
| Under wraps could do without 5 songs, then it would make a decent 10 song album. Under wraps 2 and Radio free Moscow are very cool songs. Paparazzi, Nobodys car and Astronomy are quite good also. Most of the drum samples are Ludwig drums which are good, but Ian decided to make them sound tinny in the recording and the bass drum is too loud also. |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 05:16
| My favourite one is Aqualung, followed closely by Stand up and Taab, and Minstrel and Sftw not far behind. I also love Bursting out and the Phoenix benefit concerts, as well as some of the songs from Living in the past compilation (especially The witch's promise and Sweet dream). I saw them an year or so ago in Sofia and they were just great. |
Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 07:21
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My favourite band too. Thick as a brick,Songs from the wood and Stormwatch tour are great. The bootlegs are a must to any Tull fan. |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 10:04
I find Dot com a bit unoriginal too... RTB however sounds innovating ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 11:13
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I never bought my young fellow a Jethro Tull CD - but two years ago when he was 16 I took him to see Tull live. He was amazed! ------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks." |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 11:22
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I had 'Dot Com' a while back and wasn't so fussed. I seem to remember that bizarre, repeated monologue of 'Hot Mango Flush' to be a bit on the filler side.
The thing for me with Tull is that indeed, there is only one album ever slammed as being real bad (I never bought Under Wraps due to my aversion towards 80s production values- apparently the album is full of them). But then, to my ears there seem to be a few fairly ordinary albums too. I need to get around to reviewing some albums- I do feel that they peaked pretty early on, really, with only 'Songs From A Wood' being a 5 star classic after TAAB, imho. |
Posted By: Tormato
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 14:48
Yes, I love A Passion Play more than any other JT album, even with the story of the hare that lost etc. that every one hates. I think that the intro of APP is one of the most amazing recordings I've ever heard in prog rock.But be aware that Passion is a very complex album and a lot of people just can't get it. I was patient enough to understand it, and was highly rewarded. The story is marvelous, full of mystery and imagination, and it takes you on a tour de force through death, limbo, hell and back to life after rebelling against the devil. quiz yourself: have you ever been able to listen to a complete symphony or opera for once in your life? have you read books? Well, if you have, chances are that you will love it with PASSION. If you want shorter, easier listening songs, try "Songs from the Woods", "Aqualung" -oh, you already have it- or "Heavy Horses".
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 18 2006 at 18:50
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I have to say that Jethro Tull was one of those groups who, so to speak, opened me the gates to the world of Prog (together with ELP and King Crimson; with Pink Floyd I was already acquainted). A magical world. (And they are still one of my favourite groups). At the beginning I haven't understood anything, I was almost unfamiliar with this unusual language; it took me about six-seven listenings until I finally realised that I'm listening to something... don't know... very promising... intriguing... after that it has revealed that it is just great. The first albums I heard were Heavy Horses, Aqualung, and Bursting Out. They are still amongst my favourite albums (in quite a "warm" company of some dozen (or so) of others). And I decided to deepen my acquantaince with the band. I was buying album after album, and there wasn't any disappointment, on the contrary -- my love and respect to the group only grew. Then I started to differentiate -- say, Thick as a Brick is an awesome album, but I like A Passion Play more. The first (and only) disappointment was Under Wraps. At that point I realised that I'll have all their albums. There are some albums which I consider weaker than others, but they' are not disappointments by any means. For example, both 1995 albums -- Roots to Branches by Jethro Tull and Divinities: Twelve Dances with God by Ian Anderson (I have his discography also, in parallel) are amongst their overall best achievements, in my opinion. ...And I'm still hoping to hear something new and interesting from them.
(Temporary) end of praising...
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 03:02
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I think I'll call my new album "Broadchild Rising." It'll have Skating Away and Rainbow Blues, and Pussy Willow and Jack Frost and the Hooded Crow, and This is not Love and some other song! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 06:52
| I honestly can't see any other band having a greater career than Tull ;) |
Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 23:35
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Jethro Tull are a lovely slow burning band for me. I've been a big fan of 68-72 Tull for many years. I find the mid-late seventies a hit and miss situation (more hits). The eighties and nineties are still only lightly skated on. Crest feels to be strongest release of the eighties. Catfish is probably the nineties choice. Having Tulls complete catalogue, I now find more time to focus on the latter works. Previously only listened to once or twice.
Jethro Tull
A Fire at Midnight for sure. ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 23:49
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Yes, they really are magnificent. So long-lived and prolific, surviving huge changes without becomming stuck, and continuing to make quality music. Plus, you can still go see them and be thoroughly satisfied, they play the old and the new with vigor year after year. I don't think that can be said of anyone except Crimson.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: December 20 2006 at 01:27
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^^^YUP! ------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan ringed by ants and musing over man. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 20 2006 at 03:24
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Aren't Tull and Crimso the only two classic bands that didn't quite sell out? I mean, Yes, Genesis and ELP all gave out at some point, and Pink Floyd kinda became a marketing tool, but Under Wraps is faaar too weird to be marketed as pop...unless Ian's really, REALLY stupid about that sort of thing. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: December 20 2006 at 05:04
Yes I agree with you. Passion play is for me JT best, and one of prog masterpieces overall. I also like TAAB, Stand up, This was, Minstell, Benefit, The best JT DVD is their concert 1977 on London hyppodrome. They were in great form and in rheir show include peaces of TAAB and Passion play. Excellent DVD |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 17:43
It's interesting that your faves are the full prog albums and the more simpler bluesy albums. But you don't mention the albums which are mildly complex(more complex than the bluesy stuff and less complex than the full prog albums TAAB and APP). Remasters such as Heavy horses, SFTW, Stormwatch, Warchild, Dotcom, Roots and A. There's probably about 5 prog songs on each of those remasters. Great mild-very prog remasters. There's even 3 or 4 proggy ongs on the Broadsword remaster
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Posted By: kyrandia
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 10:03
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I'm a huge fan of JT, since I'm 16 years (now I'm 36)
My TOP 10 albums in order
1 - A passion play *****
2 - Songs from the wood *****
3 - TAAB *****
4 - Aqualung *****
5 - Heavy horses *****
6 - Stand up ****
7 - Minstrel in the gallery ****
8 - The Chrismas Album ****
9 - War child ****
10 - Benefit ****
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two bad albums "A" and "Under wraps"
- I think JT is not a classic Prog band in the construction of his songs (Except TAAB and APP), but the music is a good mix of various genre, and a mix of differents instruments and sounds. In this way It's very PROG for me.
I remember a concert at the Olympia, Ian said something like that :
"Now do you Remember this song, thick as brick, when we were a progessive band"
Tormato say :
The best JT DVD is their concert 1977 on London hyppodrome. They were in great form and in rheir show include peaces of TAAB and Passion play. Excellent DVD
--- > I agree Very good concert, but a poor image.
In conclusion : Do you know other Prog Band like JT who made more than ten good or very good albums ?
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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 11:21
This is subjective but here goes...
I love Jethro Tull's discography and looking at the PA ratings they have 10 albums with ratings of 4.00 or higher and Ian Anderson has 1 solo album with a rating of 4.00 or higher.
One of my favourite artists is Steve Hackett. If you look at his work he has 7 albums rated at 4.00 or higher and if you count his work with Genesis you can add another 6 albums with 4.00 plus ratings, bringing his total to 13 albums.
But the winner (as far as I've found) is Frank Zappa with 26 albums rated at 4.00 or higher - that is a phenomenal number.
So, albums with 4.00 or higher rating:
Frank Zappa = 26
Tangerine Dream = 16 (mind you 9 of these albums have less than 5 reviews)
Steve Hackett / Genesis = 13
Jethro Tull / Ian Anderson = 11
Peter Gabriel / Genesis = 9
Genesis = 7 (all consecutively released!)
Gentle Giant = 7 (again, all consecutively released, quite an accomplishment)
King Crimson = 7
Pink Floyd = 7
Rush = 7
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 14:12
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Heavy Horses. Very evocative. I used to work in horse stables and had this album playing all the time. I particularily like the track The Mouse Police because we had four tabby cats which were kept just for the purpose of killing the mice which would get into the horse feed. See my review. ------------- |
Posted By: kyrandia
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 03:58
Very interesting job Firepuck, I was not far from the truth with JT...
But you missed some good bands, I have a look too...
Marillon = 7
PFM = 7
Porcupine tree = 7
see others ???
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 07:47
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned excellent Living in The Past!!! Yeah, I know, someone will say that's a compillation, but wait a second...from 80 minutes of playing time (21 song), sixteen songs were never published before! More than enough for an album! I always tought of this one as an album rather than a compillation... Just Trying To Be.... Beautiful. No other band did such a bunch of songs...ever. Long time Tull-fan getting emotional...I better stop. ------------- |
Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 17:02
| LITP is close to the bands best cd. All those classic singles and so called album rejects ;). Half of those songs are spread over the This was, Stand up and Benefit remasters now and they pretty much stand out as the best songs on each cd. I would have preffered to see those songs on the albums originally, because they would have been much stronger albums and a much better representation of the band at the time. Benefit is a much better album with Teacher, Witches promise and Just trying to be ;) |
Posted By: Abalaea4
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 21:47
| Probably my all-time favourite band. Their worst moment was Under Wraps (but not so bad as many people seems to believe) and if i had to choose their best i would say APP one of the best pieces of music ever written in the 20th century. |
Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: January 15 2007 at 08:59
Hmm..Elegy is absolutely gorgeous. Right up their with Requiem as one of the most beautiful things they have ever done. As for Barre's guitar. One of my all time favourite solos by any one. Simply sublime. Flying Dutchman is also a masterpiece.
Tull have been firmly entrenched in my top 5 favourite bands since I first discovered them when I was 17 back in 1981. Back then my top 5 bands were Floyd, Tull, Sabbath, Tangerine Dream and Iron Maiden. Only TD and and Tull have remained a constant in that lst throughout the last 25 odd years. Others have come and gone (Rush, Marillion, Asia, Pavlov's Dog...) but Tull have always been there.
The thing about JT.... there's no such thing as a bad Tull Album... They're all good it's just that some are better than others. Only other band I can say that about are Rush! ------------- They who know do not speak! They who talk do not know! |
Posted By: jtullprog
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 10:49
Love Thick as a Brick and Minstrel in the Gallery. As for there later albums I would have to say Stormwatch and Crest of a Knave(Even though its technically not prog). A Classic Case is amazing too. |
Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 10:51
| I am REALLY looking forward to seeing Tull this summer..... I have never been an ardent Tull fan, but the opportunity to see them is quite exciting!!! |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 12:02
huhuhuhuh Jethro Tull are coming to Argentina!!!!!!!!! and more
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 12:05
Floyd never sold ouy...they just became the biggest act in the world for some strange reason. But in a way you are right, Tull and Crimson are the only two bands that never sell out...and I love them that ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 12:21
^Tull and Crimson are the only two bands that never sell out..., right, Matias? Are you still waiting for your saviour???
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 19 2007 at 15:37
I'm an OLD bugger, born in 1960, and I must confess  I've been listening to prog since 1975. Yes were my favourite band in the early days, and I still enjoy them, but for me, Pink Floyd, Genesis and Peter Gabriel's solo albums have lost much of their shine. (The same goes for Bowie, Reed, the Stones and Van Morrison, all of whom I used to love.)
But funny enough, I NEVER get tired of Jethro Tull. Whichever album I play, they always amaze me. (With the single exception of AQUALUNG. I still love its less well-known tunes, but not the famous ones, you know, the ones you also find on BURSTING OUT.) Tull music - always sounds fresh! |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:57
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Do you know some band that released several discs along 60' and 70' decade, which the worst (Stormatch, Warchild, TOTRNR) don't deserve less than four stars? What do you think about it? What Tull early album really sucks? Any. For that reason, J-Tull is the best prog band for me. |
Posted By: prognose
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 19:58
Stormwatch is cool, I'd put Minstrel in the weaker basket. But the Warchild remaster get's 4.3 stars because of the stunner bonus tracks and Stormwatch remaster gets 4.5 stars also because of the stunner bonus tracks .
But you will notice that the 2 weakest original albums(without the
bonus tracks) were soundtracks. They were Warchild and Too old to RnR |
Posted By: D.U.
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 01:17
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All I can say for Jethro Tull: Thick as a Brick I: Genius. Thick as a Brick II: Genius. That is all.  ------------- 
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 04:34
Tuh. The? TOO! Too Old To Rock 'N Roll! Dude, just call it Too Old. Thought you were talking about...oh, I dunno, Tales From the Oceanical Graphics or something. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: March 25 2007 at 17:28
| It really cares to you, Whistler? |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 03:47
In one way, yes, because it's Tull.
But in another way, yes, because EVERYONE online abbreviates, and unless you're in the "in crowd," which I'm not, not even here, you have no idea in the world what's going on, in the "oh, lookit him, he's a QSTTRV" "LOL!" sorta way.
And yes, because it's Tull. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 17:37
| I like the Tull, but a few years ago I saw them live and it was awful (partially due to the audience). It turned me off the Tull for 3 years. I can listen to them now though. |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 17:55
| I do insist you, Whistler: It really cares, does'nt just to you, really cares to anyone? If I want to write the long (and correct) form of everything, it's useless that you critize me for the way I write, about Tull or wathever the band. Right? |
Posted By: The Cynic
Date Posted: April 03 2007 at 08:07
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@fuxi, feel like you do. I was born 63, grew up with the best music to date. Tull was always my child. And as you mentioned, they alwys sound fresh. My fav is MITG. Best Tull ever recorded. ------------- this world is totally fugazi |
Posted By: cursestar
Date Posted: July 25 2007 at 19:55
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*bump*
Okay, I'm really ticked off. Jethro Tull were going to be playing at the http://www.acousticfestival.co.uk/%20 - Nantwich Acoustic Festival 2007 and I was going but the festival's been cancelled due to poor weather conditions. They're trying to duplicate the same festival for next year around early August but I'm not going to be here then. Dammit. |
Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 10:21
This is excatly how i feel. I also love Heavy Horses and all of their live albums. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rutgers Joe
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:47
Agreed...
...also, the bonus tracks on the Broadsword re-master are excellent...all as good or better than the original album tracks... ------------- The original (and very creepy) cover of THE STEVE HOWE ALBUM...hint...look in the water... 
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Posted By: garbonzo
Date Posted: July 26 2007 at 15:54
| One my faves! Saw them 4 times, 1st time 1971 last time 1999. Great shows every time! |
Posted By: prognose
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 01:19
Have you heard Motoreyes, jackalyn part 2 or Blues instrumental?
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 16:28
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Well... My brother gave me (because it is stupid) the LP version of "20 Years Of Jethro Tull", my first contact wuth Tull (in 1988). It was very difficult to restore on CD this version instead of to remove 6 songs?
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Posted By: Hopeless
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 06:26
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"Aqualung" and "Thick as A Brick" are my favourites, great band. ------------- If i have any spelling\grammar mistakes, ignore them. English is only my second language <_< 
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 06:29
I just...like to know what's going on in the world! Is that such a crime?!?
(breaks down into tears) ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |