Holst-The Planets, songs with obvious influence...
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Topic: Holst-The Planets, songs with obvious influence...
Posted By: T-Chant
Subject: Holst-The Planets, songs with obvious influence...
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 13:37
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I know of some great compositions that have obvious influence from Holst's massive work "The Planets" which is probably my fav symphonic piece of all time. List any songs prog or not that remind you of this piece... ------------- Turn around-it's on the other side.... |
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 13:41
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Zep's "Friends". Another example of Page's "ability" in using "good" music riffs.
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Posted By: T-Chant
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 13:45
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Cashmere (spelled right?) is about as heavy a riff as any eh??? I have not heard Friends I don't think, not a huge Zep fan but appreciate them more as time goes on...
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 21:14
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A couple tracks on Zappa's Absolutely Free were based on The Planets.
A lot of movie music seems based on it too.
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Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 15:02
Music from Conan The Barbarian comes to mind, very similar to Jupiter I think. ------------- 
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zappaholic wrote:Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 15:07
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I'm surprised that KC's The Devil's Triangle hasn't been mentioned yet. As far as I know, it's a re-working of one of the themes from The Planets. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 16:44
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Wasn't Manfred Mann's Earth Band's Joybringer based on "Mars"? I think Rainbow's "Eyes of the world" uses the opening theme from that piece to.
Then of course there's the Kevin Peek/Rich Wakeman/Jeff Wayne "Planets" listed in the various artists section.
Surely Keith Emerson must have used something from "The planets" too?
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 17:01
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^He did, yes. On the Emerson Lake and Powell album (great album), there's a fine re-interpretation of 'Mars The Bringer Of War'. The best version of this though I've heard is 'The Devil's Triangle' by King Crimson- the eeriest use of mellotron outside of VDGG's 'Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers' I've ever heard.
I have a really obscure psych track by a band called The Sands, the track is called 'Listen To The Sky' and it has part of 'Mars' used in the climax- a furiously heavy guitar interpretation.
'Beyond The Planets' did little for me, really. I found it a bit samey and plodding, plus I don't like those 80s synths on it...
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 18:25
And they performed more straight-forward versions of Mars on stage when the original lineup was still intact. One of the most powerful bits of music I've ever heard. They would end the piece with an air-raid siren. -------------   |
Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 20:30
It is a wonderful piece of music and it seems so influential. I can't recall a specific sing that reminds me planets though 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 20:46
 Joybringer is Jupiter, Bringer of Joy.After his death, Holst's daughter Imogen guarded the copyright of the Planets and would not permit any non-orchestral versions of the suite being performed or recorded and famously forced the withdrawl of Tomita's 1976 synth version. However, she did approve Manfred's rendition of Jupiter and allowed it to be release. The copyright lapsed in 1984, but Tomita's version did not see light of day until 1991.
Bathory also used the melody from Jupiter on the song Hammerheart . And I have a vague recollection of a NWOBHM band recording Mars - I never owned the album, but it was released on silver vinyl. ------------- What? |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 21:39
I'm surprised that The Devil's Triangle didn't get blocked then, if she was prohibitting non-orchestral recordings. ------------- |
Posted By: T-Chant
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:08
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I had no idea about the non-orchestral deal with his daughter!!! I never knew Tomita's album was blocked either!!! I would love to get a copy of that on CD someday; it was my first exposure to that piece of music when I was young. Tasteful use of synths most of the time if I remember correctly. I can't believe no one mentioned th Star Wars theme- that is what I was fishing for;) Also "Magnum Opus" from Kansas' Leftoverture album draws from mars for sure! ------------- Turn around-it's on the other side.... |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:37
It's on Led Zep III. It's a mostly acoustic number with John Paul Jones playing the main riff from Mars as the song progresses. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: T-Chant
Date Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:51
It is amazing to me how many recordings have The Planets fingerprints on them
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 03:48
Wondered who'd be the first to spot that!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 08:56
Tomita's Planels was blocked in the UK - but I bought a copy of it in the US in 1977 and bought it back home.
Similarly, Wendy Carlos tells on the liner notes of her remastered CD By Request that the album was originally banned in the UK, because of her treatment of Elgar's Enigma Variations - odd because the LP was most certainly available a long time after its UK release with the track in place - and I have a copy purchased at the time to prove it. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 08:57
Didn't Marianne Faithful have something to do with Mars.  ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 09:02
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Quite a few metal bands have used the theme of "Mars" in their songs ... Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy being the most obvious example, but there are more. Nile for example - but I can't remember which album it was.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 09:06
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i remember NWOBHM band "Diamond Head" used the "Mars" intro on one of their albums, it sounded great.
i saw "The Planets" performed at the Royal Albert Hall using the great organ, and the singers were placed high up above the gallery, a fabulous experience!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 04 2007 at 10:25
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What, relationship if anything does Holst's Mars, have to Krimson (and therefore Anecdoten's) Mars? ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: verrata
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 23:19
| Pretty much any movie score written by John Williams has The Planets all over it. Not only that, but people are missing the super obvious: Star Wars. Not only did John Williams all but plagarize Mars, they even used the planets as a temp track to get the "feel" right. The end. |