Could Yes be much more overrated?
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Topic: Could Yes be much more overrated?
Posted By: DethMaiden
Subject: Could Yes be much more overrated?
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:12
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Jon Anderson's voice doesn't do it for me, their instrumentation doesn't do it for me, even their "great epics" Close to the Edge and The Gates of Delirium pale next to comparable songs by Genesis, Van Der Graaf Generator, and Jethro Tull. They're a good band, in the same sense that a lot early prog bands were good, but they aren't revolutionary nor amazing.
Am I just missing something? Or is anyone with me in thinking that are Yes grossly overrated by this site and the prog community in general?
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Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:13
| I feel the same about Genesis. I believe it is a thing called taste. |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:14
Sounds like a personal problem....  ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
DethMaiden wrote:Posted By: Rushman
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:18
| Maybe you're grossly underrating them |
Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:22
| with the exception of gates (which makes me mess my pants), i don't believe they really did anything truly genius |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:29
You are not missing anything. Apart from the generalisation that Yes are not overrated at all on this site, or by the prog community in general, they are rated at the level that, on average, people like them. Prog isn't a competitive sport.
You don't like them. Cool. Move on. Let's talk about something you do like.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:33
^ what are you talking about? Of course he's missing something! Why? Because Yes is the Greatest band to grace this filthy little planet and mesmerize our tiny brains with the most beautiful notes music can hit! Yes, you are missing something Dethmaiden! (I hope I have not offended you )
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Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:39
I'll let it go because every album in your signature is inarguably a masterpiece (least of all the Yes ones though
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:40
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Oh Boy. Here we go again... EDIT: It's all about taste. I don't like Yes that much either, but I just let it be. If you don't like it then move on to the next band until you find something that you like. ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:43
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Tastes differ. I happen to think The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is boring, but a lot of people disagree. No one is right, no one is wrong.
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Posted By: Endless Wire
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:44
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I think Yes is a terrific band. They write some of the greatest melodies of any band, prog or not, and their music sounds so epic. What I like most about Yes is how their music paints such a surreal visual landscape. ------------- . |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 15:56
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Yes overrated? I sincerely hope not, they have rightly earned their legendary status over the years through their sophistication, originality and revolutionary approach to rock music, they are a cornerstone of Progressive rock - their best work may lay in their early 70's albums, but they are still an excellent band today!
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 16:00
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I kind of get where you're coming from, but they did produce 3 very good albums - The Yes Album, Relayer and Close to the Edge - and bits of Fragile are good. They had 2 great keyboards players, a fabulous bass player, a great drummer (Bruford) and a singer you like or loathe ( I like him) and Steve Howe who I don't rate as a particularly great guitarist but he certainly ain't bad. But the problem is their eternal need to progress and do bigger and bigger epics. This culminated in Tales, which does f**k all for me. After Relayer they did some good commercial stuff but their albums were pretty forgettable overall. On balance, I prefer Genesis (and Floyd, Camel and GG for that matter) ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: pedroechoes
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 16:21
| i don't think so,they marked an era just like all those bands and that's the reason for the ''overrated'', nowdays the number of prog bands is bigger and the glory is splited |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 16:30
| It's not compulsory to like Yes. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 17:04
Cham, I like you more and more every day--except for your damn minimalism. ;-)
I don't like them much either (except for Relayer, which is amazing), but you have to let it go. My advice is to just not listen to CTTE and accept that, for some inexplicable reason, everyone else thinks it's genius.
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 17:22
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Different people have different tastes dude, and you may be in the minority in the forum for not liking yes, but there's nothing wrong with that.
And for me at the moment I only like their first two albums, used to be huge on them but I've kind of gone off them.
Anyway, when I first got to this forum all the discussion seemed to about Yes vs Genesis, that seems to have really died down in the last 18 months. Weird that. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 17:32
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I'm not a big Yes fan, Jon's voice breaks my nerves, but..........Why overrated? Because many peopl like them and you don't?
They have the credit they deserve, there's a lot of peopole who like them, they have earned it with great music despite the terrible voicals, that's a double merit IMHO.
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Posted By: Evandro Martini
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 17:36
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It's called taste, my friend... I feel the same about VDGG, Dream Theater and lots of other bands. To me, Yes is a unique combination of superb musicians and great musical ideas. But you don't have to agree...
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Posted By: KansasRushDream
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 17:47
| I like Drama the most out of any album of theirs so that should tell you something for starters. I find their "epics" to be good but not great and the singing is hit and mostly miss. Occasionally there are masterful moments but I generally find them boring. The musicians are all fabulous but I really think Anderson brings them down. His voice is just dull to me. If they had somebody like Geddy Lee on vocals now there would be something to listen to! I actually think he might sound good with them. |
Posted By: Iommi
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 19:30
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FOR ME PERSONNALY I DONT THINK THAT ANY BAND IS BETTER THAN OTHER, AT LEAST 70S BANDS, BUT YES IS A GREAT BAND WITH GOOD SONGS, FOR ME I LIKE MORE ELP, VdGG, ELOY, ETC... BUT I REALLY ENJOY YES ANYWAY
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 19:59
| How does Yes necessarily deserve to be hugely popular? If you really think about in, at any given time in rock music there are many many bands that have similar skill and equally unique ideas. Which ones become popular and end up being called "innovators" seems to happen randomly. |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:02
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When I first saw this thread I thought "oh no, another Troll making his mark". I am pleased to see that this was not the case. I am sorry that you don't like them, but thats your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it, Personally I love Yes, When I was growing up in the 70's I thought they were way better than the competition. These days I have learned to appreciate ELP, VDGG, Genesis and the others, but Yes will always be my fave. It was the soundtrack of my youth (along with Floyd). To each his own!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:04
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Yes had one advantage over any other band I can think of, Prog or otherwise: they had so many tools at their disposal.. firstly, great vocals on par with (and oft better recorded than) GG or even CSN&Y, rare musical prowess and chemistry, versatility, and a keen sense of the music industry.
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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:05
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You are right you are missing something it's possibly called taste.Grossly overrated!!!You don't like two of the most important pieces of music that prog has produced.No wonder I rarely visit this site these days.Yes were pioneers for the prog movement saiing unchartered waters.Visioneries they clearly were and gave the world six gems starting with the ' Yes Album ' all the way through to 'Going for the One' Like what you like,but threads like this severely piss me off. |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:16
I think that you are right, there are many bands, then and now, that were equal musicians and/or songwriters. In the end though, its not about who "deserves" to be popular, its who IS popular, whatever the reason for it. The music business, then and now, is not based upon skill, unfortunately. Many many (many) musicians never make it even though they "deserve" to. The reason that Yes is so popular is simple: They appealed to the record buying public more than the others. End of story.
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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:20
Chill, dude. Everyone has a right to his opinion and a right to express that opinion. I happen not to agree with him, but that's me. Getting "pissed off" because someone doesn't share the same views as you is just silly. Take a valium, bro!
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Posted By: Spyro
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:32
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Yes are pretty special I think that its just a matter of taste if you like them or not but few could argue that Yes have earned their place as one of progs most influential artists , when I say influential I mean everything about them screams out prog |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:42
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Don't need to take anything and Yes he has a right to his opinion.But on Prog sites these negative views do indeed disturb the urinal waters surging wthin.Perhaps, after listening to and watching prog and rock for 35 years I get a little bit exasperated with comments of this ilk.So the loosening of the bladder track is my perrogative and when Yes get dismissed it does indeed fire up the hackles.But thanks for your advice Walker.And I am perfectly chill, drinking bud. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:54
^ For a while I thought I was the biggest Yes fan... I was wrong!
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 20:58
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I quite like Close To The Edge, but Relayer bores me to tears. I tend to feel about Genesis the same way you feel about Yes.
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Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 21:09
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yes' lofty heights and jon anderson's sometimes overpositive lyrics do sometimes slightly annoy me. I don't think yes is that overrated...they are pretty damn good musicians and were quite importaint in the 70's prog scene. ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 21:11
I love most prog, they,Yes shaped my early life.Now, Porcupine Tree there is one mighty fine band and improving.Fear of a Blank Planet is growing on me day by day. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 21:31
Gee thanks Ghandi  If only girls would say the same.  . . . . well, except for the minimalism part...-------------
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Posted By: Prog Serpent
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 22:06
| I like Yes, but they are not my favourite...Genesis is still on the top of the list for me. |
Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 22:59
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So, basically, it's a matter of taste. I've got that much.
However, don't get me wrong and call me a Yes hater. They're a good band, just not (in my opinion) a great one.
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 23:09
You are missing 'Awaken' from GFTO (1977). While I don't see what you don't see in GoD (you are right about CTTE - it barely makes it for me too), by the time Wakeman comes back to join the band (sans Bruford - enter White after Fragile), their sound is refined to what becomes (IMHO) the pinnacle of their best (sorry Tormato fans out there - now that really doesn't do it for me). Maybe the addition of the Swiss church organ and church choir helps, but I saw Yes GFTO tour in Sept 1977 in LA and they pulled it off! Whether it was an augmented Mander pipe organ or what, the organ sound was close enough to the original to accomplish the same awe and inspiration. I know some feel that Yes became too commercial with GFTO, but I beg to differ. Even the pop-esque 'Parallels' song does not disappoint (again, maybe because of the church organ). Give GFTO a listen before you write Yes completely off - I think you will be pleasantly surprised...
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Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 23:13
| yes is a bit too sophisticated for me I think. I really like most parts of Close to the Edge but Fragile didn't do a lot for me. I prefer bands that have a simpler approach, but not too simple! |
Posted By: kenethlevine
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 23:14
I'll agree with you on Eloy  |
Posted By: Wishbone Ash
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 00:36
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yes ------------- Elizabeth? |
Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 01:01
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Yes are not overrated because so many people like them. It truly is about taste. Personally it took me a long long time to start enjoying Yes' sound. They have some fantastic musicians in the band but there is something grating about it, I wouldn't exactly call Yes "smooth." I actually was not planning on liking them (kind of an odd statement)...I bought CTTE to be sure and wound up admitting that I really really enjoy it and it is a masterpiece. However, I can definitely see where you are coming from, I, for one, think that Jon Anderson needs to vary up his vocal and lyric talents...the same things get old after a few albums. I was listening to them in the car on my way to the last day of 10th grade and I was thinking "these guys are just plain solid...no way around that." VDGG, ELP and such give me more musical imagery and flat out enjoyment, but Yes is really quite a band and deserves credit. |
Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 01:13
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 02:28
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What should I listen to instead?
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 03:58
| Yes are actually a lot harder to get into and appreciate.I didn't like them at all for years and years then it clicked.No way are they overrated.Steve Howe ,Rick Wakeman,Bill Bruford and Chris Squire are 4 of the most respected musicans in prog rock. At their peak (Fragile/CTTE) Yes simply ruled symphonic prog. |
Posted By: prognose
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 04:36
| I love the Yes album, Fragile, Close to the edge. WHile Tormato and Tales are quite cool. But I must say that Relayer and GFTO are very overrated |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 08:21
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To answer your question exactly, yes, they could be more overrated.
Hmmm, turn back the clock to the late '70's, when I first became a zombie prog pod person, and they were one of the giants of progressive music.
Still glad to have all their '70's stuff and even Drama in my collection, although they slipped a bit in the context of all the great music out there since then.
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 08:36
I am a firm believer that Genesis and Yes were extremely important in ensuring the success of Progressive Rock. Even though they may fade in popularity today, many new bands still cite them as influences.
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 08:52
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Could Genesis be much more overrated? Could Supper's Ready be much more overrated? Could Fripp be much more overrated? Could In the Court of Crimson King more overrated? Could Peter Gabriel be more overrated? Could Dream Theather be more overrated? Could Petrucci be more overrated? Could Porcupine Tree be more overrated? Could Steven Wilson be more overrated? Could Roger Waters be more overrated? Could Tool be more overrated? Could Rush be more overrated? Could Magma be more overrated? Could Doors be more overrated? Could Beatles be more overrated? Could Henry Cow be more overrated? Could Zappa be more overrated? Could (Put here a person/band/album/song that many people think genius or superb and you don't like very much) be more overrated? And you can go ad infinitum generating futile discussions based on taste... |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 09:25
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Hmm, is any band that lots of people like "overrated"? I suppose that depends on how qualified you feel you are to judge other people. Suggesting that Yes is overrated implies that you are more knowledgeable about music, have better taste, and understand music better than all those people. Pretty damn arrogant if you ask me. Seriously, it's all down to taste. I happen to love Yes, but it did take a while for me to really absorb and fully appreciate what they did (as opposed to what they have done since the early 80's.......which I still don't have much appreciation for, with the exception of the Keys albums). There are, however, bands I don't care for that loads of people love. I have to respect bands and musicians that can engender that kind of appreciation, even if I don't appreciate it myself. So, no, Yes are not the least bit overrated. They are rated exactly as they should be, based on their broad appeal, musical skills and talent, and significance in the development of prog. You may not have an appreciation for these things, but that does not negate the fact of their existence. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 10:07
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I think we are staring to make this a jon Anderson bashing post, when his voice is obviously the greatest in prog rock!!!!!!!!!!! -------------
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 10:16
quite important?
That's a bit like saying Liverpool were quite important in the 70's English football scene.
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Posted By: soundspectrum
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 11:31
| the solution is that yes sucks.....and theres nothing you, i or any of us could do to salvage them |
Posted By: kerberos
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 11:42
| I disagree. NO band sucks, not even the Darkness. Musical taste in subjective: you either like Yes or you don't. And I do. especially the late 60s-70s stuff. Have a good listen to Awaken from the album Going for the One then tell me how overrated they are. Better still, listen several times. |
Posted By: LarryCanary
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 12:48
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So some people like CTTE but are bored by Relayer - ?!? - I have trouble remembering which songs are on which album. IMO these two albums are more alike than Court of the Crimson King and Wake of Poseidon are, and those two receive much criticism for being too similar.
Just an observation. . .
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 13:39
You're obviously not the smartest person living! -------------
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 13:40
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Sorry double post. I still think that guy is an absolute idiot! -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 14:43
Although Yes was my favourite Prog band at one time, and Fragile was my favourite album, I don't enjoy Yes nearly as much as I used to.
According to my tastes, I find Yes to be over-praised (I do think there are better bands out there). It became a popular Prog band, and popularity breeds popularity. Yes got me into Prog long ago, but it's other bands that keep me interested in Prog. Really, it's no so much that Yes is overrated as it is that other bands are underrated (in this case I'm using overrated to mean that many people rate Yes albums rather than other lesser-known, but deserving bands' albums. It's bound to happen, of course, as Yes are better known). I'd rather mnay other bands get more praise and recognition... This internet community has brought a lot of attention to the grand diversity of Prog, and little-known bands have become significantly better known. I do feel that many other bands deserve far more attention than they get, and do not deserve to be overshadowed by Yes, but that's not to say that Yes is not a very good band deserving of recognition -- popular and influential. Yes deserves recognition for its very significant place in Prog history. If the tables were reversed, and an obscure but very good Prog group had managed to find that popularity, there's be many people claiming that it was overrated too. There are a great many albums that I would rate higher than Close to the Edge, but that's a matter of taste. Well, that and I do expect that many people who have come in to highly rate their favourite album (in this case CttE) are not familiar with a great many albums from many different groups that are in the archives (so i think the album overrated in the sense that to many people rate it, and from a personal point of view, I do think its held in too high esteem when compared to a great many other albums that are relatively little-known). For me, yes is an essential band to get to know, but not an essential band to continue listening to. But then how many bands will stand the test of time for me? I know many who have loved Yes for decades still hold the band in the highest esteem (at least for their classic albums). I just wish many other bands that I consider to have both more technical and artistic (from a personal aural standpoint) merit weren't so overlooked. But that doesn't make Yes overrated so much as other deserving bands are merely overlooked. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 14:51
lol
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 14:54
this thread is becoming overrated....
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 15:34
I used to belong to a board where everyone could rate any given topic (thread) with stars. The idea seemed to be that one rates the initial post according to certain criteria (composition, inventiveness etc.) ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 16:32
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Absoloutely my very favourite voice, but as I have stated on here for a good few years now Hammill is the best singer in prog.The man can rip the rooftops off one moment and soothe you like baby the next.But Jon Anderson's with it's clarity and emotion and it's beauty make his my favourite. |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 16:37
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Seems like You and I have very similar thought patterns.Yes the most important band in my young life along with Uriah Heep and Deep Purple. |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 18:57
No, not at all. The reason I like Relayer is because it's so different from everything else Yes did, and some people don't like it for that very reason.
Because liking Yes is directly related to intelligence.
God, I hate this forum so much sometimes (or at least certain people in it). Actually, that's unfair. It's the internet that I hate, and people like schizoid_man are only a manifestitation of the inevitable.
That's interesting, I dislike them because I find them too "smooth" (that thought was never really articulated, but that's a good way of putting it), except on the incomparable Relayer. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 19:17
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Tell me a prog band that isent overated.. prog as a whole is the most overtated musical genere isent it? Long boring songs, self indulgenc, overblown, pompous, cheesy, corny, silly fantasy garbage stuff.. why does anyone lisen to prog at all? lets yust burn every prog album evermade and start lisen to some real music. ------------- 
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Posted By: evilromero
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 20:40
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 21:51
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It's funny to see the double standarts:
It also works the other way:
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 04:06
 Like a Virgin, maybe
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 07:57
Yes rulez.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 07:58
Case closed. You may rise. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 09:38
| I don't think Yes is overrated, they're not my favorite band and i have problems with Anderson's singing in some of their songs (cha cha doda doda in Siberian Kathru for instance) but tracks like Close to the edge, Heart of the sunrise and Gates of delirium are outstanding. Also their sound is unique, no band that really sounds like them afaik, TFK comes closest sometimes. |
Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 10:02
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Could Yes be much more overrated?
And the answer is.... YES!!!!!! And it wouldn't be enough! ------------- 
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 10:06
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 10:47
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How can you take a thread seriously by someone who gave 'Operation Mindchrime' & 'Divisional Bell' *****'s in the review section?
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 12:58
What's wrong with those albums? I consider them must haves. Like previous replies have said, its all taste.
Not to mention, it was a pretty safe thing to say considering the number of reviews you have.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 13:03
This should be the final word on this and all threads like it. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 13:17
That does sum it up very well indeed. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 14:49
I second (or third) that. I don't listen to a lot of Yes (only have Close to the Edge), but I don't see why they should be considered overrated. They're just popular. |
Posted By: keith_emerson
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:01
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If I like yes? oh, YES! i love it.... matter of taste... |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:06
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:26
Even the most aredent Pink Floyd fan wouldn't consider Division Bell a good album ?
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:28
| I like The Division Bell. It's better than The Wall, in my opinion. |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:32
As one who owns all the PF releases and quite enjoys them, TDB happens to be a favorite of mine. But perhaps if you read a few posts back you can see that opinions matter not, be it mine or yours. We all enjoy different music and there is no good nor bad because it all is subjective.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 15:36
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I'm puzzled as to why this threads waffled on for 5 pages.
But at least its turned into a Floydian thread, which is something.
The Division Bell is a great prog album that many bands would have sold their Grannys to Beezlebub's third cousin-twice-removed to make, unfortunately it is only an okay Floyd album andis no where near the Wall in progitude. ------------- What? |
Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 14:45
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Yes were always my favourite band when I was at school, even when they released Drama, and I still love everything they did up to and including that album. 90125 ruined it for me, but by then I'd grown up. I still love everything before that though.
I can't hold it against you for failing to see the attraction mind you, personally I've never been able to endure ELP, but that doesn't make me any less of a proghead. ------------- Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact. |
Posted By: obiter
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 20:56
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It's hard to pitch in here without stating the glaringly obvious: Yes are rated so highly here because over 3000 reviews scored them highly. Even though nearly 500 people thought close to the edge was 5* there were about 20 who felt it was a steaming pile of dog poo. Each to their own: it's opinion I really like some of their stuff and can't abide others. Where can you really go with this? One guy likes Coke the other likes 7UP .... ------------- An té nach mbíonn láidir ní folláir dó bheith glic |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 22:03
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Let's just say Yes is overated because they can be! Thats how good they are, now lets plz kill this topic! -------------
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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 22:36
| i really connect with yes's emotional, fantasy, almost angelic sound, with their more epic peices. i dont like their shorter, more poppy songs like roundabout and whatnot. but its their long epics which i really can get into, whenever i hear the i get up down part in close to the edge, i get a shiver in my spine and the world just feels good. |
Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 10:27
Agreed re Yes.
As for killing the topic, it's not compulsory to read it you know. There was once a thread about Mariah Carey that went on for hundreds of pages and I have no idea what it was all about. Why? 'Cus I never clicked on it. Easy. ------------- Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 10:55
 Roundabout is 8 minutes 33 seconds long and is the second longest song on Fraggle.------------- What? |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 11:08
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I've held off of this thread; however, after listening to Close To The Edge I've come to the conclusion that the thread's author is goofed up on skunk weed. 'Nuff said.
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Posted By: gabriel9
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 11:18
| i don't think they are overrated, they're held up by many as the prime reason why prog was replaced by punk..if anything, they're as derided as they are hailed ( i'm one that hails them lol) |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 11:22
easy... here at PA's... someone will argue that Coke is more complex than 7-UP. Some one will get upset, flame the other, Jody will swoop in and close the thread. that is really where that could go... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Morda
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 11:23
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There are prog bands which I feel are overrated (Genesis and The Mars Volta come to mind) but it's all my opinion.
It's your opinion that Yes are overrated, and I disagree with that opinion. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:38
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Yes can be more overrated! There's still plenty of people who haven't reviewed Close to the Edge yet. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 16:51
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 20:09
Seconded -------------
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: June 29 2007 at 20:09
Like me!  |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 30 2007 at 09:47
| No more over-rated than Rush. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2007 at 09:57
who overrates Rush.... their 4 prog albums are not too bad... the AOR stuff was good enough to get them on MTV for heavens sake ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 30 2007 at 15:25
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Please guys the term overrated is the most arrogant one in English langiage.
If a band is beloved by thousand of fans, why do we say it's overrated? Only because we don't like them?.
This means we believe our taste rules and all the rest are stupid morons that love a crappy band, really it's a shame yto say something like that in a Prog site where people normally listen, think and analyze a band before giving them our preference.
I understand that in some mainstream genres where people worry more about the looks of the artist,the clothes they wear or with who they sleep, but this doesn't happen in Prog, a good part of our idols are fat old farts who need a B cup bra
 , so if we show preference for a band is for their music not for external factors.Honestly I feel insulted when a person says "Genesis or Yes are overrated" because this means to me "Hey you moron, that band is crap because I say so and you like it".
And the worst thing is that most people who accuse a band of being overrated never give a coherent argument of why they think is overrated.
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