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Topic: Hidden gems
Posted By: Jimbo
Subject: Hidden gems
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 17:07
Hi all! 

I was wondering if someone could recommend me more of these "hidden gems" such as Circus - Movin' on and Comus - First Utterance? I would truly appreciate it. I've heard most of the "mainstream" prog bands already so something new would be nice.

Thanks.


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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 17:12
RDM - Contamination

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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 17:17

Il Balletto di Bronzo - YS

if you can accept Italian language vocals they are great!

 



Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 17:19

Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

RDM - Contamination

I'd get that seen to if I were you Greenback ! Wink

Big smile

 

 

(Sorry Spanky-maybe I'll start dumbing up for teenagers sometime soon !Geek)



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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 17:24
Thanks greenback and Possessed. I can accept italian vocals for sure.. The only Italian prog band I've heard so far is Le Orme. I do like them. Now I just need to find these albums somewhere.

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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 17:31
Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet
Clearlight - Symphony
Heldon - Allez Teia
Brian Eno - Another Green World
Horslips - Book of Invasions
Il Volo - Essere, o non essere!
Utopia - Ra
Journey - same


Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:13

Clearlight - Symphony

Kayak- See See the Sun

DFA- Work in Progress Live

Present- Certitudes

Cauldron- The Sanctuary Suite



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 18:19

Refugee - Refugee.

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=4694 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=4694



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:18

Steel mill 'Green eyed god'

 

 

 

 



Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:36

Try the downloads on this site for:

UTOPIA - Todd Rundgren's UTOPIA

Island - Pictures

Alusa Fallax - Intorno Alla Mia Cattiva Educazione

Osanna - Palepoli



Posted By: maani
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 21:06

Alusa Fallax - Intorno (Italy)
Anglagard - Epilog (Sweden)
Ark - Burn the Sun (prog metal)
Can - Future Days (Canterbury)
Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra (Italy)

I'm sure I'll think of others...

Peace.



Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 22:08

Blackfeather's At The Mountain Of Madness (Aussie prog from 1971 with AC/DC's Bon Scott on recorder!)

Amazing Blondel's England (lovely progressive folky stuff)

Colosseum's Valentyne Suite (bluesy/jazzy father of prog)

T2's It'll All Work Out In Boomland (outstanding prog trio from early 70s)

Back Door - Back Door (part jazz, part prog with one of the best bassists you'll ever hear in Colin Hodgkinson)



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 03:57

Recomendo time again

Killer album...

666 cover

APHRODITE'S CHILD

'666'


 



Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 04:28
[QUOTE=Trotsky]

T2's It'll All Work Out In Boomland (outstanding prog trio from early 70s)


just to add
T2 - T2 (AKA Fantasy)


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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 08:55
Thank you all for the answers. 

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Posted By: Frank
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 09:32
Am I in agreement with the gives suggestions (it likes a lot the Italian prog eh? ).I warmly add for an approach soft Clic of Battiato, Aria of Alan Sorrenti and if you don't know them Crack of the Area and Concert big n°1 of the New Trolls.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 10:27

More Coming in the featured band , This is why it was created and next week I will send a suggestion , but mailto:M@X - M@X has to have some MP3  - there is no point in doing so without it.

I was thinking of Spring , but this one may not be that unknown, though.

Karn9:

Steel Mill is an excellent suggestion but it is probably too hard to find: The vinyl came out in 200 copies and the Cd in 1000 copies. And from what I know, out of print.



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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 11:51
Try anything from Quebec band Octobre. I`ve still got a few vinyl editions but if you can find anything by them recorded during the mid to late seventies go for it. Might be a little pricey though but well worth it. As long as you don`t mind French lyrics they are Quebec`s answer to Gentle Giant , King Crimson , Yes and others fom the seventies. They keyboard player and drummer kick ass.


Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 12:26

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Try anything from Quebec band Octobre. I`ve still got a few vinyl editions but if you can find anything by them recorded during the mid to late seventies go for it. Might be a little pricey though but well worth it. As long as you don`t mind French lyrics they are Quebec`s answer to Gentle Giant , King Crimson , Yes and others fom the seventies. They keyboard player and drummer kick ass.

 

octobre? sure! la maudite machine!



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 02:47
I can think of better Quebec bands as Hidden Gems than Octobre (still good though). You might want to check out the thread on Quebec prog for names.

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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 06:37
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

[QUOTE=Trotsky]

T2's It'll All Work Out In Boomland (outstanding prog trio from early 70s)



 

Absolutely, the great neglected gem of British rock/prog rock (guitar-lead and  minimal keyboards) of the early 70's. Only wish somebody would issue a good remaster - here, in my experience, is a rare example of the vinyl pressing sounding much better than the German (World Records?) attempt of remastering for CD. I'm told that a Japanese label issued Boomland on CD before the German issue, but apparently their source was an LP of the recording not the master tapes. I suppose when perhaps 5000 copies of the LP got pressed up, then most of those discs would have been good quality pressings. Decca have done another pretty good remaster of  White Horses, found on the sampler Legend Of A Mind - but if you believe other stories, Decca had lost the master mix down tapes and the studio notes annotating settings of the multi-track down to two track stereo.



Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 09:26
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

[QUOTE=Trotsky]


T2's It'll All Work Out In Boomland (outstanding prog trio from early 70s)



 


Absolutely, the great neglected gem of British rock/prog rock (guitar-lead and  minimal keyboards) of the early 70's. Only wish somebody would issue a good remaster - here, in my experience, is a rare example of the vinyl pressing sounding much better than the German (World Records?) attempt of remastering for CD. I'm told that a Japanese label issued Boomland on CD before the German issue, but apparently their source was an LP of the recording not the master tapes. I suppose when perhaps 5000 copies of the LP got pressed up, then most of those discs would have been good quality pressings. Decca have done another pretty good remaster of  White Horses, found on the sampler Legend Of A Mind - but if you believe other stories, Decca had lost the master mix down tapes and the studio notes annotating settings of the multi-track down to two track stereo.



I managed to pick-up a copy of T2's second album.It too
is very good.Slightly more pastoral than 'Boomland'
with loads more mellotron.

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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 09:46

Windchase - Symphinity (if you like Camel)

England - the drummer sounds like Bruford

Druid - Toward the sun (a Yes-clone)

my new signature

Som nosso de cada dia - Sneg

Crack - Si todo hiciera (cross between Jethro Tull and Locanda delle fate)

Rebekka - Phoenix (a german version of Renaissance)

Pollen - Pollen

Shaun Guerin - By the dark of light



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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 09:58

Indian Summer - Indian Summer

Raw Material - Time is

Khan - Space Shanty

Moving Gelatine Plates - The World of Genius Hans

Czeslaw Niemen - Ode to Venus

Bubu - Anabelas (if you can find it )



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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 11:09
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

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I managed to pick-up a copy of T2's second album.It too
is very good.Slightly more pastoral than 'Boomland'
with loads more mellotron.

I spent a long Saturday  in London in 1971 looking for Boomland (I'd taken the day off from the weekend job!!) - none of the big record stores had it, but I eventually found a copy in Musicland, next door to Oxford Street Tube Station exit - I also bought Jean Luc Ponty's King Kong at the same time.

Slight confusion by what you mean as 'second album' - the second one to be released and then 20 years plus after Boomland, was Second Bite in the early 90's. And there was a third CD released within 9 months of Second Bite which IMHO lost it completely (too much reliance on a drum machine??). Alan Freeman of Leicester's Ultima Thule tells me T2's original guitarist Keith Cross pops in on the very occasional basis (apparently he is Leicester based?), and was not amused  that a second album Second Bite had been recorded and released  by Peter Dunton without his knowledge in the 90's - he reckoned he still shared rights to the name T2.

 

I hear there might be another recording from the Boomland times about to or is just released  - is that what Musea is offering as T2?

What I like about Second Bite (although it is nowhere as good as Boomland), is Dunton's voice has matured and seeming to be a hybrid of Gerry Rafferty and Robert Wyatt's!

 

 



Posted By: klikka
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 11:32

Pavlov's dog - At the sound of the bell

Dr. Z - Three parts to my soul (Sold 70 or 80 copies when released on LP but has been reissued on cd)

Black Widow - Sacrifice

Cressida - Cressida (Not so hidden though)



Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 11:47
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Slight confusion by what you mean as 'second album' -

I hear there might be another recording from the Boomland times about to or is just released  - is that what Musea is offering as T2?


 



The album that I'm refering to is also known as Fantasy.
It was recorded shortly after Boomland but was shelved by
Deram.It finally saw the light of day in 1997 I believe.
It was released as a Japanese import on Belle Antique records.

The line-up is the same as Boomland viz:-
Peter Dunton - Vocals,Drums,Acc' Guitar,Mellotron
Keith Cross - Elec' Guitar,Elec' Piano
Bernard Jinks - Bass Guitar

Track List:-
1.Highway 3.02
2.Careful Sam 5.48
3.Timothy Monday 3.47
4.CD/The Minstral 10.31
5.Fantasy 8.08
6.T2 14.31

See my avatar for a picture of the sleeve of the album

I posted a brief review of the album on the Featured CD
thread.It's currently languishing near the bottom of page 2



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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.


Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 12:19
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Dunton's voice

 


 



I adore Dunton's voice.With all due respect to him it's whatI'd describe as a non-voice.It dosen't 'get in the way' of the music but at the same time complimenting it if you know what I'm feebly grasping to say? His vocals are just as good on the Please material.

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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.


Posted By: Beau Heem
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 12:44
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Czeslaw Niemen - Ode to Venus


The real gems of Niemen
Aerolit
Enigmatic

Absolutely fantastic.

Even better if you have a vinyl copy...

Cheers

-Beau


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 13:13
Thanks for that Man Erg - 25 years I've been banging on about T2 (voice in the wilderness it seemed), and then this great confirmation of more of the original band is now available!


Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 14:02

Originally posted by Beau Heem Beau Heem wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Czeslaw Niemen - Ode to Venus


The real gems of Niemen
Aerolit
Enigmatic

Absolutely fantastic.

Even better if you have a vinyl copy...

Cheers

-Beau

Ditto "Czlowiek jam niewdzieczny", "Mourner's Rhapsody" and "Winobranie". Czeslaw Niemen rules.



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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 14:38

Originally posted by Beau Heem Beau Heem wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Czeslaw Niemen - Ode to Venus


The real gems of Niemen
Aerolit
Enigmatic

-Beau

 And Marek Grechuta, another polish artist, released also a prog gem : 'Magia oblokow' in 1974.



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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 15:01
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Beau Heem Beau Heem wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Czeslaw Niemen - Ode to Venus


The real gems of Niemen
Aerolit
Enigmatic

-Beau

 And Marek Grechuta, another polish artist, released also a prog gem : 'Magia oblokow' in 1974.



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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 04 2005 at 17:03

Daniel Denis' solo albums - no downloads available, but there are sample tracks you can hear on the Cunieform records and Musea sites.

Incidentally, Daniel Denis is now in the archive, huzzah! And I wrote the bio (which needs a slight edit).



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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 01:40

Originally posted by WiguJimbo WiguJimbo wrote:

Thanks greenback and Possessed. I can accept italian vocals for sure.. The only Italian prog band I've heard so far is Le Orme. I do like them. Now I just need to find these albums somewhere.

Le Orme - Felona E Serona is really good. Some more Italian bands to check out are:

Locanda Delle Fate - Force Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Pui (dual keyboard prog)

Corte Dei Miracoli - S/T (dual keyboard prog)

Maxophone - S/T

PFM - Storio Di Un Minuto

RDM - Contaminazione

Banco - Darwin!

Formula 3 - Signando E Risognando

Goblin - Roller

 

 

 




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