Rio = Rap in Opposition?
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Topic: Rio = Rap in Opposition?
Posted By: rambaron
Subject: Rio = Rap in Opposition?
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 12:40
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Remixing Prog with Rap a Good Thing? Just a few days ago, I was browsing around in my local Guess? Store, when over the speakers I was so overjoyed to hear ELP’s From the Beginning. Although, this excitement, (no let me rephrase that, I was experiencing euphoria), was very short lived as I realized in horror that it was some new remix with rap thrown in. I am assuming that this perhaps has already been brought up in the forums. But lately I was hearing a lot of proto prog, and crossover songs like the Doors, and Rolling Stones being turned into rap, but now ELP???? At the same time though, despite it sounding bad to me because I’m used to the original song, is it actually such a bad thing? I mean, if this is the only way to bring these masterpieces back from the dead and perhaps have those individuals who would have never otherwise hear ELP and others, the chance to at least get a taste of it. Should it actually be considered experimental? Should they be praised for their creativity and revitalizing material from our past? Or is it just botching an otherwise perfect song? You decide. Myself, I really don't mind it so much as I think there is much to be gained here if some perhaps lesser known artists get remixed. Maybe someone who hears the botched version of From the Beginning will love it, and this will lead to them going out and discovering more songs by ELP. Who knows, maybe rap will perhaps learn something from Prog and become better artists themselves allowing for experimentation maybe one day creating some sort of Rap in Opposition. And because I just can’t resist doing something random and silly, I decided I should perhaps update and make my favorite song Hip and Happening. I should send this to perhaps Eminem since he’s making a comeback now and all. Also, he is the only artist that doesn’t pose without a shirt, which is not telling me that, your badass, but rather, you’d do me for some crack.
It’s the Court of Crimson He da Crimson King Not to be confused with da burger king He a real dope mothertrucker with a big brass ring The Jester starts to play and the choir will sing While our boys on the court just doing his thing Sliding down the centre who gets a slam dunk Not Don, or Steven but da Crimson King Haha, that was so lame |
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 15:12
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And ELP was in that commercial... (see thread " forum_posts.asp?TID=41744 - NO!!!!!!!!!! ELP sells out.. " Thread). They be getting around... I honestly don't think that any hip hop fan that likes the cover of a prog classic will like the original. I think they'll listen to it and go "What the (curse) is this Crap?!?!?!?" and just switch it off. Maybe if it's something catchy like "Carpet Crawlers" they'll eventually want to hear it again, but thats all dependent on IF they make it to the chorus... |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 15:24
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Dat yellow jester is a real sad sucka
Gonna pop a cap in that dope mutha*****
Me and my *****z gonna do our thang
doin a driveby in da court of the crimson king.
somehow I think it loses something when done in rap form.  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 15:37
| Close to the Edge would make a great rap epic. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 16:31
+1. |
Vompatti wrote:Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 16:45
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There is another recent thread on PA regarding Kanye West performing a song from Can. It didn't get too many good reviews from PA forum members. ------------- 
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 16:52
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Derz Winston Churchill dressin like a ho'
Was a plastik bag but he ain't no mo'
Took da drugs and put it in his bag.
Rolled up a joint and took a drag.
-Sizzupperz Rizzedy -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 16:54
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Rambaron and Doc; Don't quit your daytime job for a career in rap music  ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 16:59
There go all of my dreams.
 I guess I'll have to keep making an honest living.  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 17:13
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I have yet to see a rap version of GG's Knots
 ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 17:18
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Puff Daddy's "Come With Me" was not bad at all. Actually, it was the thing which first attracted me to what was to become my greatest love in music. I owe it to that guy.
------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: rambaron
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 19:04
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Anyone ever notice how close Bob Dylan's Subterranean Homesick Blues is to rap. In fact I once saw a rap music video from Jamaca that played tribute to Bob Dylan's song. You know, the holding of the flashcards and such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srgi2DkDbPU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srgi2DkDbPU
Good one Doctor, that was one pimpin songs, you really one uped my ass. I thought I should leave out swearing since I just got threatened about being banned yesterday if I just do one more F$%#, I SAID FUDGE DAMMIT!!!!!
Here are the lyrics:
Johnny's in the basement
Mixing up the medicine I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off Look out kid It's somethin' you did God knows when But you're doin' it again You better duck down the alley way Lookin' for a new friend The man in the coon-skin cap In the big pen Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot Talkin' that the heat put Plants in the bed but The phone's tapped anyway Maggie says that many say They must bust in early May Orders from the D. A. Look out kid Don't matter what you did Walk on your tip toes Don't try "No Doz" Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows Get sick, get well Hang around a ink well Ring bell, hard to tell If anything is goin' to sell Try hard, get barred Get back, write braille Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you fail Look out kid You're gonna get hit But users, cheaters Six-time losers Hang around the theaters Girl by the whirlpool Lookin' for a new fool Don't follow leaders Watch the parkin' meters Ah get born, keep warm Short pants, romance, learn to dance Get dressed, get blessed Try to be a success Please her, please him, buy gifts Don't steal, don't lift Twenty years of schoolin' And they put you on the day shift Look out kid They keep it all hid Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle Don't wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals Don't wanna be a bum You better chew gum The pump don't work 'Cause the vandals took the handles |
Posted By: Hirgwath
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 20:37
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The thing I hate most in the world is when I am listening to Last.fm and another remix of IQ pops up.
------------- Skwisgaar Skwigelf: taller than a tree. Toki Wartooth: not a bumblebee. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 20:51
What does remixing have anything to do with rap? 
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Posted By: rambaron
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 21:59
| You clearly misunderstand, they take a song, remix it with someone rapping, you must not have heard it before but the first time I did was on Need For Speed Underground, and the song The End, by the doors. They had Jim Morrison singing followed by someone rapping and it went on. Its acually almost the same as the original song, they just add some rapping, and have a beat in the background. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:06
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^^^ Ooooh. That's called sampling. To be honest I'm fan of these things and I enjoyed Snoop's sampling of The Doors (I heard it before I even knew what The Doors was  ). Sampling can end up being pretty nasty, but when done right it's very enjoyable... if you like these sort of things.-------------
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Posted By: rambaron
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:08
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So would you say that hearing Snoop sample that song, lead you to the Doors? |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:10
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There's also that awful sampling of Supertramp... urgh!
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Posted By: rambaron
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:12
| "shiver" forgot about Supertramp, at least some of the sampling can be mildly entertaining, but the ones with Supertramp "vomits in mouth". |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:17
ba dadada ba dadada badadadabadadadabadadada
It's torture, really.  ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:18
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Take a look at my girlfriend, she's the only one I got... *cue rap* She's a  in ho, oh, I want to give a good show-oh...-------------
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Posted By: rambaron
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:21
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Hey, we must make a topic where we remake prog songs into rap, but they have to be at least a little bit like the original song, can't just be random sh*t and you throw in the word tarkus.
Oh, and thats a nice rack you have there Mrs. Geck0
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:31
Yes. I wasn't into psychedelic music when I was playing Need For Speed Underground 2 and my curiosity for The Doors became bigger when I listened to that song. -------------
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Posted By: rambaron
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:36
See, I told you all, but you thought I was nuts! This proves that it is possible although unlikely that a sample of a great classic song can drag somebody into the dark world of Prog. Who knows, maybe I'll go into Guess? next week and the chick at the counter is wearing a PT T-shirt. Take that http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11804&FID=44 - Floydian42 ! |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:40
Posted By: Hirgwath Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:41
Posted By: rileydog22 Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:46
Posted By: mrcozdude Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 13:58
Posted By: chamberry Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 21:09
Posted By: Leningrad Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 21:16
Posted By: Floydian42 Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 21:23
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