1973...prog best year???
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Topic: 1973...prog best year???
Posted By: Guests
Subject: 1973...prog best year???
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 20:51
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I have done some research, and I came out with the conclution... that it was in 1973 when prog rock reached it´s peak...because if you look at all the great albums that where released that year...it´s dificult not to say that, right??? Just see all the releases made that year: Genesis - Selling England by the pound King Crimson - Lark´s tounges in Aspic Yes - Tales from topographic oceans Jethro Tull - A passion play and many, many more... So, is it true??? Was that prog´s best year??? And if not, what year was it then...? |
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 20:56
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i vote for 1975, and paradoxically, genesis and yes have no release! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 21:02
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Yep Greenback you are spot on....1975 Wish You Were Here - PF Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn MMEB - Nightingales and Bombers Vangelis - Heaven & Hell Clearlight Symphony Strawbs - Nomadness yes - Relayer A good all round year with many more too. |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 21:06
Wasn't Relayer 74? ------------- 
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cstacey wrote:Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 21:12
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1976
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) British Horslips - The Book Of Invasions - A Celtic Symphony (1976) Irish Samla Mammas Manna - Snorungarnas Symfoni (1976) Swedish Ragnarok - Ragnarök (1976) Swedish Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygène (1976) French Klaus Schulze - Moondawn (1976) German Ashra - New Age of Earth (1976) German Schicke, Fuhrs and Frohling - Symphonic Pictures (1976) German Picchio Dal Pozzo - Picchio Dal Pozzo (1976) Italian Vangelis - Albedo 0.39 (1976) Greek Kansas - Leftoverture (1976) American 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 21:52
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Just to add: '73- Octopus- GG '73- In A Glass House- GG '74- The Power And The Glory -GG '75- Free Hand- GG (there's a pattern there somewhere...) ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 21:56
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I totally agree with matias. 1973 was the peak. ------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 21:59
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probably 73 dont forget Nektar - RtF Aaron |
Posted By: beterdedthnred4
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 22:07
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I think '74 was just as good. Genesis-The Lamb Yes-Topographic Oceans ELP-Welcome Back Gentle Giant-Power and the Glory King Crimson-Red Hatfield and the North-Rotter's Club Camel-Mirage Renaissance-Turn of the Cards |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 22:09
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The best album came out in 1973...
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Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 22:25
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All this talk about 1973 and not one mention of Dark Side... Wow. There. I mentioned it. I'm happy now. |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 22:27
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i'd agree yes released both CTTE and TFTO in 73. Relayer came out in 74. ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 04 2005 at 23:38
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yeah, as i said: 1975: http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view/list_id_is_12961 - http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view/list_id_is_12961 ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 00:11
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1975 I dont know, wheres the beef !
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here (1975) British Brian Eno - Another Green World (1975) British Heldon - Allez Teia (1975) French Lard Free - I'm Around About Midnight (1975) French Canarios - Ciclos (1975) Spanish Il Volo - Essere, o non essere! Italian although I think these are all great albums!!! the germans got it crankin in 74 and 76 before they let loose in 78 and 79!!! 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 02:40
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although I might not entirely agree with '73 I do have to add a not so prog album that started a great prog band. http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/wallpaper/DEBUTredcov.jpg"> ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Yams
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 02:53
| Yep, 1973 was it. |
Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 04:23
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Top 5 released in '73: Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero Le Orme - Felona e Sorona Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Renaissance - Ashes are Burning Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz  |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 04:28
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I think the prog output generally between 1972 and 1976 was superb. I cant pin point one year as being the best. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: bumheed7
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 09:53
incorrect. ctte was 72  ------------- Good Morning Carpark Fans 
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 11:01
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1977 wasnt actually shabby!
Pink Floyd - Animals (1977) British The Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (1977) British Lard Free - III (1977) French Atila - Reviure (1977) Spanish Kraan - Wiederhören (1977) German Klaus Schulze - Body Love: Vol.2 (1977) German Utopia - Ra (1977) American The Dixie Dregs - Free Fall (1977) American and 1978 had its moments! Clearlight - Visions (1978) French Jean Michel Jarre - Equinoxe (1978) French Michael Hoenig - Departure from the Northern Wasteland (1978) German Conrad Schnitzler - Ballet Statique (1978) German Tangerine Dream - Cyclone (1978) German Ashra - Blackouts (1978) German even if the english couldnt keep up 
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Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 13:24
and tales was 74 ------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God. |
Posted By: Rick4001
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 15:00
I agree '73 was THE prog vintage, if not, then one of the very best. For starters Topographic Oceans / Selling England / Larks Tongues all in the same year!! Man, what I'd give to hear 3 albums of that excellence in a decade let alone within 365 days!! ------------- "...seems Helen of Troy has found a new face, again ..." |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 15:25
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1974.....
starless..... red...... the power and..... the lamb lies... mirage... relayer... in camera... the silent corner every one is.... thats it folks.. ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 15:36
| 1973 is the peak, I'd say. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 15:59
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1972 Genesis - Foxtrot These are the best albums of some of the best progressive rock bands ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:08
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1970 England
1971 England 1972 Italy 1973 England 1974 Germany 1975 France 1976 Sweden 1977 America 1978 Germany 1979 Germany |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:11
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In 1974, The Netherlands where better IMO. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Hiwatter
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:23
| Its really hard to say, but British and Italian scene was at its peak in 1973. The French, Spanish, Scandinavian etc. was before peak. I think the best prog years in common were 1971-1979. |
Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:28
1972 was a very good year! |
Posted By: Tony
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 17:03
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1972: Foxtrot Fragile CTTE Per un Amico Storia di un Minuto Ys not too shabby either |
Posted By: kingofbizzare
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 17:00
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There were also some great non-prog albums released in 1973. For example: The Who - Quadrophenia |
Posted By: Pylo
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 17:29
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Many of the great bands made (one of) their masterpiece(s) in 1974 (except Jethro Tull's 'Warchild')
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 17:32
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Year of Transition or should that be Initialisation! ELP 'BSS' Floyd 'DSOTM' Yes 'TFTO' Genesis 'SEBTP' Etc.
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 17:40
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Don't forget Rush's AFTK in 1977 and Hemispheres in 1978! |
(jk) Posted By: alchemist
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 18:12
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yes 73 was the peak in prog, it was were our most beloved releases came out (this lsit is in no kind of order): selling england... (genesis) brain salad surgery (elp) lark's tongue... (king crimson) yessongs (yes) dark side of... (pink floyd) camel (camel) the first release of a excellent prog band... ------------- no great genius has existed without a touch of madness... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 18:20
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That brings me nicely to a statement i got stated for ages ago. Prog started dying off after '73.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:12
| Definitively!!! |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:24
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Gotta go 1972, by far the peak of our genre:
1973 was almost equally as good, however I believe the first three on that list blow anythign from that year away. ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:35
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1973:
...no need to go on... |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:37
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The best prog year is always the next one. Otherwise, it could calls
"regressive", not progressive... This exaggerated "living in the past"
(in brazil called "saudosismo") thing is the biggest problem of prog...
If you want to live in the 70s, and think that only it is good, fine...
Just don't keep annoying everybody because of that.
------------- And above all, is punk 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:39
..HAS to be 1973 or 1972 then....
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Posted By: alchemist
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:43
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[QUOTE=flowerchild]..HAS to be 1973 or 1972 then....[/QUOTE Yep! ------------- no great genius has existed without a touch of madness... |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:45
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1970 should be equally shared between Germany and England. So many German bands published their first album in 1970. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:52
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I think this is prog's basic arc, imo
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 18:54
Agree 100% |
Posted By: alchemist
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 19:00
I would say it more or less the same, with this difference: 1975- 1977 good but not as great as the previous era (because of Animals which is one of my favorite albums) 1978- 1981 decline 1981-  fall of prog------------- no great genius has existed without a touch of madness... |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 19:01
no it definately fell by the late '70s, (despite the sucess of some band [yes-floyd-tull]), and was dead by the '80s. -------------
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 19:04
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...but then again, on a second thought, we have Fact and fiction/Twelfth Night...perhaps that belongs to the post/death-strangling-era
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 19:07
i agree... except... IMO the fall of prog was on 1982 after Moving pictures -Rush and maybe the last good progressive album from the era was from a band who has created the re-birth of prog script for a jesters tear - marillion after that ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 19:10
i have tried so hard to get into that marrilion album never could, it always sounded like a cheap genesis to me. idk, most people love it, i don't gte it though, i can never get through more than 10 minutes, i think its mainly fish that bothers me. -------------
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Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: May 31 2005 at 20:03
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I think 1973 and 1972 were just about equal but I think 1972 was a TINY BIT better.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 03:55
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Why? Which albums? |
Posted By: Yurkspb
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 04:37
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I guess 1970-1975 are all more or less equal. |
Posted By: lovecraft
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 05:29
Tales entered the UK chart on 22/12/73 - as per the Guinness book of British Hit albums. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 05:49
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72-74 is the peak
so yes 73 is the apogee |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 06:25
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My favourite years are '72 & '76. 1972: I thought Foxtrot and Close to the Edge were far superior albums to SEBTP and TFTO. 1976: A trick of the Tail, Wind & Wuthering, 2112, Moonmadness (Camel) Roaring Silence (Manfred Mann..)
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 06:49
Disagree 100%. The eighties were horrible, that for sure, but the 90's and 00's have been great prog time!! |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 12:53
Disagree 50 % The best year just happens to be ... '73? But after that there's a lot of great music too! |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 22:56
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Ah, CttE came out in '72, ergo prog peaked in '72.
------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 01 2005 at 23:40
"Tales from Topografic oceans" came out in 1973, prog peaked in that year!
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 00:21
so let me rephrase::
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Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 01:04
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I'm still feelin 1972... Genesis - Foxtrot Yes - Fragile, Close To The Edge Jethro Tull - Thich As A Brick Pink Floyd - Obscured By Clouds ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition, Trilogy But i think i agree more with the peak being between 1972 - 1977 rather than i single year such as 1973. Yes, even 1977 was good... Pink Floyd - Animals Genesis - Seconds Out, Wind & Wuthering Kansas - Point of Know Return Rush - A Farewell To Kings Yes - Going For The One Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood
------------- Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 01:05
Oh Yes - I agree totally with your updated post ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 04:06
That sums it all up just fine, mate. No need of further discusions |
Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 06:21
| Yeah 1973 !!! But just count in an album that completes the holy crail: GENTLE GIANT "Three friends" (actually 1972), but let five be even. The best time was between 1972 and 1974. Three years that changed music history in general. |
Posted By: moncholo
Date Posted: June 02 2005 at 06:37
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1973: Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of The Moon |
Posted By: Thufir Hawat
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 18:27
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I Think 72 was the best year it had some GREAT albums.
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Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 19:07
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YOU'RE ALL WRONG! THE BEST YEAR OF PROG WILL BE 2065 |
Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 22:31
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For me, 1973 is tied with 1972, which has Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick ------------- 
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Posted By: validictorian
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 22:55
And thank you also for remembering Argus by Wishbone Ash ------------- a soldier and a conquerer... dying to be free |
Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 02:54
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Most new proggers tend to underestimate the the importance of the
Beatles to the development of prog and the influence they had on the fledgling musicians of the time. The golden age of prog (1969 to 1974) followed on directly from the demise of the Fab Four in 1969. Record companies of the time were falling over themselves to find the "next Beatles" and were open to the market potential of the kind of experimentation that the Beatles pioneered in their later years. I heard Rick Wakeman speaking about this particular matter on a radio interview during his recent tour of Australia. He went to pains to point out that the record company execs were happy to give the newer groups of the time as much leeway as they needed in the studio and that they never darkened the studio door nor expressed opinions regarding musical direction. After all, what did they know apart from the fact that there was a gaping hole had been left in the market? German Polydor (who had the Beatles on their label in the pre-Parlophone days) were so keen to discover/manufacture the new Beatles that they commissioned and bankrolled an effort in that direction which became Faust. It is no accident that Faust produced their hugely experimental classic first albums in the 71-74 period. The return of prog in the 90s has as much to do with technology as anything else. With the availability of cheap computer-based music technology, musicians have been able to self-produce their own efforts independent of expensive studios and cynical A&R types. The internet has given them access to global niche markets. This site in particular has given prog a welcome "kick along" in the past 5 years (?) or so. History shows us why the early 70s constituted the first golden era of prog and why we're in the middle of another one now. (See my thread "Why did prog go away?") IM ------------- It's a rainy day, sunshine girl |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 02:57
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One of the best years of prog without a doubt.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:31
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further reading in our archives http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13357&KW=top+year - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13357& amp;KW=top+year ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:38
Yeah man -
And LOADS more I can't think of, hehe. Anyway 72/73, some of the greatest prog albums came out in those years. ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Rockin' Chair
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:56
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CLOSE TO THE EDGE, FRAGILE (EVEN IT WAS RECORDED IN 1971) THICK AS A BRICK FOXTROT STORIA DI UN MINUTO, PER UN AMICO UOMO DI PEZZA TRILOGY OKTOPUS
1972
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Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 07:50
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In the same period: Hatfield and the North, Henry Cow's Legend and the
scintillatingly experimental early Faust albums. IM ------------- It's a rainy day, sunshine girl |
Posted By: Ounamahl
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:04
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'72 was slightly better. A BIT only! Oh yes I don't know if anyone corrected but Tales was released 1974. ------------- This is an electrified fairytale |
Posted By: Flying Dutchman
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:14
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sorry guys, but I have to go with 72! Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick Yes- Fragile, Close to the Edge Genesis- Foxtrot Heep- Demons and Wizards ELP- Pictures, Trilogy
And I also think that Thick, CttE, Foxtrot, and Pictures are the best albums for their respective bands! |
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:42
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anyone f**kin care? ------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t. -Stone Beard |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:50
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I'm right there with you. Some great releases you mentioned. |