EARTH & FIRE
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Topic: EARTH & FIRE
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: EARTH & FIRE
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 20:23
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Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children
Is this the best female led progressive rock album made? Overshadowing anything Annie Haslam, Sandy Denny or Grace Slick ever did, what do you think? Please note the date of this release when comparing what was and what is? ---------------- I will continue to push the envelope, not for you but for PROGs sake, youth should not be captured, enveloped or exploited SHAME ON THE MOON |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 20:27
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No it's not Try Catapilla led by Anna meek Affinity led by Linda Hoyle Both early '70's
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 20:29
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Frumpy & Atlantis led by Inga Ruumf
Sure i've started the topic of prog ladies a month or so ago!
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 20:44
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thanks, I am familiar with Catapilla and Affinity, will
have to journey into the dungeon for some old Inga vinyl to spin on the Thorens. 
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 21:08
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Curved Air. Excellent female vocals from Sonya
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 21:47
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any comments from the Earth and Fire groupies, i
saw them in 1975-76 in Rotterdam and they were excellent! I think the back up band was Pantheon. |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 01:46
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Hi - I have never seen them perform and had not heard of them until introduced to their music about 3 years ago by a Dutch friend of mine. Lets say I think they are great and a highly underated group. Definitely worthy of a place in the prog archives especially with 'Song of the Marching Children'. I know they had two female lead singers over their period of existence. I can not remember their names off hand, but they were really good and certainly added to the appeal of the group and it's music. It is nice to see them in the forum as a topic of discussion ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
DallasBryan wrote:
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 01:50
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PS: As much as I think they were great vocalists, the Earth & Fire girls come just below Grace Slick. GS was the best during that period.... -------------
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 06:36
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Which Thorens bryan?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 06:42
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The Debut is great,love the mellotron in places.
http://ftp.castel.nl/~wemmg01/ef-disco.htm - http://ftp.castel.nl/~wemmg01/ef-disco.htm
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 11:13
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Which Thorens bryan?
the model is the Prestige, I only have one tonearm on it. It got dropped when moving and one got damaged, so I removed it. It is about 20 years old and a collectors item I would think. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 13:04
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So how did you manage to buy that Bryan?
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 13:35
| selling artificial turf football fields |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: April 09 2005 at 13:38
Don't know about that one, since I haven't heard it, but for great female led prog rock, you should try the Japanese trio, Ars Nova, quite in the vein of ELP and other symphonic prog bands, but the emphasis is on the wonderful keyboard work. |
Posted By: Hiwatter
Date Posted: April 10 2005 at 05:56
| I like very much guitarwork on Atlantis and To The World Of The Future albums. Great Gilmourish soloing. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 20:04
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any fans of Renaissance, Frumpy or Jefferson
Starship ever tried their Dutch equals classic, Song of the Marching Children? you British definitely miss the point and go for the technicality, relax I have a job to do! 
----------- visit the southwestern USA someday! 
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Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: May 13 2005 at 21:34
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Yes ,those 2 are excellent indeed. The first side of 'Gate to infinity' is stunning too.side 2 they started to move towards their pop faze. I saw them warm up for Focus and.....well I liked E&F better. The latter singer was/is Jerney Kaagman. Lovely voice Brilliant band |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 10:59
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outside the somewhat naive(not BAD at all) lyrics
Jerney had a GREAT voice, maybe the best in all of progdom! |
Posted By: gr8dane
Date Posted: May 14 2005 at 12:24
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Right on. 'Can you feel the wind, your hair is dancing'. Trippy |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 13:42
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I really like Song Of The Marching Children and Atlantis. For me they are the true Earth & Fire classic albums. Personally I prefer Atlantis though. One of the best prog albums I ever heard. |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 14:10
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Update : Jerney Kaagman is currently in the Dutch Idols Jury, she's looking awful, she looks like her plastic surgeon was at a holiday during her operation. Nice album though, nothing more. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 14:41
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In one of the Dutch progrock magazines I write for, a friend had interviewed Jerney Kaagman and in the same issue I had written a column about Jerney and her sexy looks Nonetheless, she did a great job and the early studio albums, I also recommend the compliation DVD featuring rare live footage from Song Of The Marching Children |
(by the way, she was the first female musician that appeared in the Dutch Playboy!). Jerney used to visit the same youth center (De Sater in Voorburg, near The Hague) as me and my friends did so I had seen gorgeous Jerney often and written a funny story with a bit cynical undertone because of her very sexy outfits. A few days after that magazine was published, I noticed a message on my answering machine, it turned out to be Jerney Kaagman! She had read my column about her and was not amused 
, especially not with my remarks about her face-lift, she claimed that everything on her body was real. I still have my doubts because Jerney her studio voice was totally different from her 'live' voice, far less powerful and sometimes really out of tune ....
!Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 15:27
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Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 15:43
Their first singer was Manuela Berloth. But she didn't appear on an E&F album (she did record a demo with them however). ------------- Dona Nobis Pacem |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 16:17
Thanks for reminding me of the existence of that dvd! I'm glad I re-opened this thread. And I remember your column in iO-Pages: I really liked that one. I'm surprised though about the sequel: Jerney calling you etc! |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 16:55
| Yes, imagine what a thrilling experience it was to hear on your answering machine the voice of a woman who was such a wonderful, sexy and famous lady, who was so much on the television, who did such a beautiful job on the vocals in early Earth & Fire... unforgettable for a journalist from a small progrock magazine! |