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Topic: Dream Theater VS TotoPosted By: Icarium
Subject: Dream Theater VS Toto
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 03:08
this is just a poll i would like to see the outcome from.
the criteria of what i base this poll on is Musicality, technicality, creativity, live preformance, diversity and progyness over both bands outputs from start off carear til now
Dream Theater - the singular most influtional Progressive Metal band, and the flagship of todays modern progressive band scene (mayby not the best band but they are very important for the status of prog in the 90s and 00s). verry skilld band all bandmembers preveus and those who stil are there, all mastring there instruments in a BIG way, intense songs, often epics in 10+++ and several time signature changes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_LaBrie - James LaBrie - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer - Lead vocals , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percussion_instrument - Percussion (1991-present)
Toto - a band with no exeptian consist of the moust experianced session musicians in Los Angeles area ( the founding lineupp Exept Bobby Kimball and David Huntgate Louisianna and Texas), a band labeld Pop/rock but litarly play every style in popular music, all members of Toto is masters of ther instriments and have contributed on ceveral albums for other famous artist (Thriller by Michael Jackson are 4 tracks playd by toto members and Human Nature is basicly a Toto tune made by Steve porcaro)
two very different bands in style and genere, but similar in the way that both bands consist of stellar musicians, virtouse, perfect live preformance, perfection in studio.
i think this will be a fun poll with grate coments
Replies: Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 06:15
Wooooo Toto!
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Arnold Schoenberg
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 07:34
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 07:42
That's kind of sad Snowie. What songs have you heard from them? Just curious.
As much as I ADORE both bands, as of this moment, I think I'll choose Toto. Being a guitarist and a drummer myself, Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather inspired me to get better as a musician.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 08:09
JayDee wrote:
That's kind of sad Snowie. What songs have you heard from them? Just curious.
As much as I ADORE both bands, as of this moment, I think I'll choose Toto. Being a guitarist and a drummer myself, Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather inspired me to get better as a musician.
I haven't heard much, that is very true. Did they do Africa? I think hearing that was enough to put me off forever, but what do you recommend?
Just did a Wiki check. Hold the Line.....hate that too.
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 08:13
Haha, this is officially the greatest thread I have ever read!
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 08:43
its 2 or 3 ways to look at Totos carear one is from 1977 - 1992 wich i call the Jeff Porcaro period, and from 1992 - 1995 Lukather era and 1999 - 2008 the Porg period
or from 1977 - 1982 the classic era - 1982 - 1995 experimental or finding there sound era 1999 - 2008 the new and fresh era (as i will call them)
they have 12 studioalbums from 1978 - 2006: Toto (1978), Hydra (1979), Turn Back (1981), Toto V (1992), Isolation (1984), Fahrenheit (1986), The Seventh One (1988), Kingdom of Desire (1993) (Jeff Porcaro era), Tambu (1995), Mindfields (1999), True the Looking Glass (cover album 2002) and Falling in Between (2006) (SImon Phillips era)
Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 09:35
Snow Dog wrote:
JayDee wrote:
That's kind of sad Snowie. What songs have you heard from them? Just curious.
As much as I ADORE both bands, as of this moment, I think I'll choose Toto. Being a guitarist and a drummer myself, Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather inspired me to get better as a musician.
I haven't heard much, that is very true. Did they do Africa? I think hearing that was enough to put me off forever, but what do you recommend?
Just did a Wiki check. Hold the Line.....hate that too.
Don't forget Rosanna! Not that Rosanna wouldn't swing my vote away from DT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosanna_%28song%29 -
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 09:58
I prefer Toto, particularly for the Dune soundtrack.
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 10:21
Snow Dog wrote:
JayDee wrote:
That's kind of sad Snowie. What songs have you heard from them? Just curious.
As much as I ADORE both bands, as of this moment, I think I'll choose Toto. Being a guitarist and a drummer myself, Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather inspired me to get better as a musician.
I haven't heard much, that is very true. Did they do Africa? I think hearing that was enough to put me off forever, but what do you recommend?
Just did a Wiki check. Hold the Line.....hate that too.
Ah those hits. Well certainly there's sooo much more to Toto than their hits. Well my personal favorite from them are the albums Fahrenheit, Kingdom of Desire and Tambu. As for the songs, I dare you to check these YouTube vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpEFwnfgdY - Kingdom of Desire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uQqSD7lvaA - Jake To The Bone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHR4PyVppvw - Dave's Gone Skiing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCMeShwz3wk - I Will Remember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1juoRQOlTBE - These Chains
That's all I can think of for now. My favorites from them though I won't mind if you still don't like them after viewing those stuffs I posted.
Check out their last album called Falling In Between. Lots of good tracks there. Specially this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvogKjBmJc - Bottom of Your Soul Featuring the great Leland Sklar on bass.
I won't forget when they did that song during their concert here in the Philippines. Amazing!!!!!!
Cheers!
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 11:14
JayDee wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
[QUOTE=JayDee]
That's kind of sad Snowie. What songs have you heard from them? Just curious.
As much as I ADORE both bands, as of this moment, I think I'll choose Toto. Being a guitarist and a drummer myself, Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather inspired me to get better as a musician.
I haven't heard much, that is very true. Did they do Africa? I think hearing that was enough to put me off forever, but what do you recommend?
Just did a Wiki check. Hold the Line.....hate that too.
Ah those hits. Well certainly there's sooo much more to Toto than their hits. Well my personal favorite from them are the albums Fahrenheit, Kingdom of Desire and Tambu. As for the songs, I dare you to check these YouTube vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpEFwnfgdY - Kingdom of Desire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uQqSD7lvaA - Jake To The Bone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHR4PyVppvw - Dave's Gone Skiing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCMeShwz3wk - I Will Remember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1juoRQOlTBE - These Chains
That's all I can think of for now. My favorites from them though I won't mind if you still don't like them after viewing those stuffs I posted.
Check out their last album called Falling In Between. Lots of good tracks there. Specially this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvogKjBmJc - Bottom of Your Soul Featuring the great Leland Sklar on bass.
I won't forget when they did that song during their concert here in the Philippines. Amazing!!!!!!
Cheers!
i have a Question about the track Fahrenheit on the album with the same title, the drum pattern in the verse i have scratched my hair in trying to figure out if it is actualy Jeff Porcaro dissplaying his singlefoot bassdrum technice ore a drum machine (i Hope not) since yoe are a drummer you probably have wonderd about the same
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 11:17
oops i forgott to quote
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:17
JayDee wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpEFwnfgdY - Kingdom of Desire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpEFwnfgdY -
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:22
Are you familiar with Toto's soundtrack for Dune? Perhaps you'd like this:
------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:37
Or maybe the Toto album "Thriller". Many songs have been played on the radio from that lately. Actually, I jest, but I am pretty certain that Steve Lukather and at least one of the Porcaros contributed to that Michael Jackson album. Does anyone know the details? I know that Steve Porcaro has a writing credit for Human Nature. Is it just this one song, or do Toto guys play on more?
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 14:21
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Arnold Schoenberg
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 14:23
^ Jeff Porcaro plays on Human Nature, Beat It, Heal the World, the Girl is Mine Steve Lukather plays on the sam tracks and play both elctric guitar and bass guitar on Beat it Steve Porcaro wrote human nature, synth programming on som track beat it on trller and some tracks on Of the Wall David Paige synth programming on Of the Wall, Piano on Earth Song, and i think some on Bad Greg Phillinganes have worked on almoust all and was tour manager for dangerous and bad, and for the London concert this July
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 14:33
or mayby check out Silk Degrees by Boz Scaggs the singel reason Toto became a band in first plays with Jeff Porcaro, David Paige and David Huntgate and Steve Lukather and Steve porcaro Joind on the world tour
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 14:41
Logan wrote:
Are you familiar with Toto's soundtrack for Dune? Perhaps you'd like this:
David Paige is such a grate piano player, grate composer and such a funny man(espessially on ekstramaterials on the DVDs=
Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 20:11
I've been getting into Toto lately and they're great so voted for them, a couple of years ago maybe I would have voted for DT but the only album by them I really really like and often listen to is Scenes from the memory. I've only heard 4 albums by Toto though, the first one, Hydra, IV and Falling in between. I especially liked IV and the last one (any other recommended album?). I've found out a couple of days ago that they split up last year, it's a shame, I was already expecting the follow up to Falling in between.
------------- In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made...
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 21:27
I felt the rains down in Africa
with "Africa" 80s one-hit wonder Toto beats out Dream Theater's full musical catalog
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Time always wins.
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 21:37
LOL
This poll brightened my day.
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 23:05
Perhaps de songs of DT are longer and complex etc ,but I enjoy more Toto s music
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 02:19
I don´t like TOTO appart from three or four brilliant songs. And I also like AOR very much. For me the best band in this genre is FOREIGNER, no doubt.
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 14:21
SergiUriah wrote:
I don´t like TOTO appart from three or four brilliant songs. And I also like AOR very much. For me the best band in this genre is FOREIGNER, no doubt.
Answering to the question: DT, of course.
AOR THE BESTs that I remember
Asia Boston Triumph Journey Heart
Styx Toto Foreigner Loverboy Giuffria
Def Leppard Bad English Survivor Cannata Eagles..aor southern Talisman Giant House of Lords Place Vendome Bon Jovi
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 20:18
My favourite AOR bands are Toto and Styx. I like Journey and Foreigner too but I still have to get more into them, never heard a complete album by them. I didn't know Def Leppard and Bon Jovi were considered AOR bands, to me they're just hard rock / pop rock bands. I like them both too, especially Def Leppard. Not a big fan of Bon Jovi's last few albums.
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: July 10 2009 at 09:24
I don´t know, this poll is like you compare salty foods with desserts, i like them both but are just different.
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 16:16
markosherrera wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
I don´t like TOTO appart from three or four brilliant songs. And I also like AOR very much. For me the best band in this genre is FOREIGNER, no doubt.
Answering to the question: DT, of course.
AOR THE BESTs that I remember
Asia Boston Triumph Journey Heart
Styx Toto Foreigner Loverboy Giuffria
Def Leppard Bad English Survivor Cannata Eagles..aor southern Talisman Giant House of Lords Place Vendome Bon Jovi
The bands I have marked with a strike through the name of the band don´t like me very much, or they are not aor...Triumph and BJ are hard rock bands (well, I don´t know what the hell are Biongiovi friends now), Triumph maybe melodic in any album as Thunderseven, etc...but they were a Hard Rock trio combo in essence.
Eagles=Aor Southern? Well,hehehe. A very imaginative definition.They marked very much their songs with armonies and vocal melodies, but they never did aor. In my oppinion.
The rest of the bands I like, and I have albums of near all of them, except of Cannata. I d´n´t know who are they.
I´d like to add many important bands in the Aor, but years have showed me that the most you look for new albums from new bands, many interesting bands you find. Inside aor style, there are many hidden things, and excellent, I must say.
I´ll write some of the most known bands:
LeROUX (So Fired Up is an aor jewel)
H.E.A.T. - Melodic hard aor. Excellent new sweden band with a marvellous album, edited last year.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 11 2009 at 19:33
in my mind Toto is the gratest band ever, they have concourd bouth playing in studio and live preformances they play evry geners without pouring a sweat, there song execution is flawles, they are musicans who dont see themselvs as rockstars, they are regular guys hwo were lucky enough to play on evry big stadiums in the world, they can litarly play evry other bands round in circles in live-settings, Toto is a band i have raely payd lot of atention too, i have read anything i can find on the internett about Toto, read all Interviews from all members
i have all studio-albums exept Thru the Looking Glass and Dune, my favorite is Isolation, The Seventh One, Mindfilds, the Debut and Falling in Between.
My experiance after I have dived tru all the ups n downs by this band i come to the conclusjon, they are a very facinating band with a grate story. they have experianced evrything ass a band, shifting bandmembers, loosing there Key-member, trouble with there record-label, dealing with harsh musiccritics, getting gramy award, now in october they will get awarded with an Musicans Hall of Fame recognition. Toto have experiaced, all Spinal Tap events, there music is used in High-schools exams for testing students abilatis.
Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 10:54
aginor wrote:
in my mind Toto is the gratest band ever, they have concourd bouth playing in studio and live preformances they play evry geners without pouring a sweat, there song execution is flawles, they are musicans who dont see themselvs as rockstars, they are regular guys hwo were lucky enough to play on evry big stadiums in the world, they can litarly play evry other bands round in circles in live-settings, Toto is a band i have raely payd lot of atention too, i have read anything i can find on the internett about Toto, read all Interviews from all members
i have all studio-albums exept Thru the Looking Glass and Dune, my favorite is Isolation, The Seventh One, Mindfilds, the Debut and Falling in Between.
My experiance after I have dived tru all the ups n downs by this band i come to the conclusjon, they are a very facinating band with a grate story. they have experianced evrything ass a band, shifting bandmembers, loosing there Key-member, trouble with there record-label, dealing with harsh musiccritics, getting gramy award, now in october they will get awarded with an Musicans Hall of Fame recognition. Toto have experiaced, all Spinal Tap events, there music is used in High-schools exams for testing students abilatis.
I forgot mention a good album of TOTO: Isolation, with Fergie Frederiksen at voices, who made a huge work with Le Roux a couple of years before. I forgot this, and began listen to it yesterday, after much time ago. A good album, I prefered it more than IV.
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 11:00
I'd go with Toto. Starting listening to them in grade school. And, they had one of the best (of not THE best) drummers of all time. R.I.P., Jeff.
Agree. Isolation is a fine disc. Surprised Fergie left so soon, but thought Fahrenheit was an even better album. That one is still one of my favorites.
I've recently picked up the 90's Kingdom Of Desire and Tambu. Both extremely good--with the former being a bit more raw than anything before or since. Good stuff, though.
E
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Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 11:35
I think it's a bit suspect that Toto goes ahead in this poll. But of the comments I haven't read any pro DT comment so I guess their fans aren't interested in this section of the forum. I prefer DT but I'm not going to vote because this is the General Music Discussions section .
Toto is a nice band but I know only three great songs by them (Girl Goodbye, White Sister and 99) and on the first two it was just because of the great solos by Lukather. Pamela and Rosanna are nice songs.
I'm not into AOR for the last 20 years or so but I have to admit I loved the genre in the eighties. Toto and Foreigner were two of my great loves then. But there wasn't too much prog around then if I remember well ....
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 14 2009 at 15:29
SergiUriah wrote:
I´ll write some of the most known bands:
LeROUX (So Fired Up is an aor jewel)
H.E.A.T. - Melodic hard aor. Excellent new sweden band with a marvellous album, edited last year.
PREVIEW
ALIAS
HURRICANE
ALIEN
AVIATOR
STRANGEWAYS
AUTOGRAPH
KHYMERA
THE STORM (with Bad English members)
DOUBLE ECLIPSE
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AOR is an excellent style to swim over it.
Thanks for the recommendations. You really should dig TOTO if you like AOR : albums 'fahrenheit' (with Joseph WIlliams on vocals, son of the composer John Williams) and 'isolation' are prime examples of their straight AOR phase. Others are more varied.
Other recommendations :
BOBBY KIMBALL's first solo album (vocalist for TOTO)
BOULEVARD, the album 'into the street is a must-have for any AOR fan.
DAVID ROBERTS 'all dressed up' (with Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather of course)
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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: July 15 2009 at 22:01
lucas wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
I´ll write some of the most known bands:
LeROUX (So Fired Up is an aor jewel)
H.E.A.T. - Melodic hard aor. Excellent new sweden band with a marvellous album, edited last year.
PREVIEW
ALIAS
HURRICANE
ALIEN
AVIATOR
STRANGEWAYS
AUTOGRAPH
KHYMERA
THE STORM (with Bad English members)
DOUBLE ECLIPSE
.......
AOR is an excellent style to swim over it.
Thanks for the recommendations. You really should dig TOTO if you like AOR : albums 'fahrenheit' (with Joseph WIlliams on vocals, son of the composer John Williams) and 'isolation' are prime examples of their straight AOR phase. Others are more varied.
Other recommendations :
BOBBY KIMBALL's first solo album (vocalist for TOTO)
BOULEVARD, the album 'into the street is a must-have for any AOR fan.
DAVID ROBERTS 'all dressed up' (with Jeff Porcaro and Steve Lukather of course)
Thanks to you. I do not recommend anything, just wrote some of the albums I remembered at that point of the night. Sure those are not the best, but good albums I love. An advice: they all belong to Hard Aor or Hard Melodic style. I like it more...
If you love soft aor there is a very good album called "Taking A Cold Look", by I-TEN and it´s supreme. Reedited now by Rock Candy.
I was listening 2 days ago Toto´s Isolation, because I like Frederiksen´s voice. A good one, I think I will listen the other one you´ve mentioned, Farenheit, and Boulevard too. Thanks.
Now I´m listening to Balance-In For The Count(1982). A good album too.
Posted By: BLITZKRIEG
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 15:29
lol what a weird poll.
anyways, I love both bands. Toto are underrated IMO. they have some good rock songs, and their last album, Falling in Between is brilliant. Steve Lukather is a music genius.
Better Worlds by Toto is one of my top prog songs.
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 16:05
Great poll!
I actually don't like both (I don't know much from Toto though). But I've tried to get into Dream Theater thousands of times, with no results. So, now I realize I really disgust Dream theater, so my vote goes to Toto.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 13 2009 at 16:18
floydispink wrote:
Great poll!
I actually don't like both (I don't know much from Toto though). But I've tried to get into Dream Theater thousands of times, with no results. So, now I realize I really disgust Dream theater, so my vote goes to Toto.
I see you like Pink Floyd as if I`m reading yore username correct i think you will find atleast the Toto album Tambu to sute yore taste, actualy are all Toto albums pre Jeffs death (Kingfom of Desire, Tambu, Mindfields and Falling in Between) quite Pink Floydish espesially the long ballads. the earliest records off Toto are more in the veine of Steely Dan, Boz Scaggs, Fleetowood Mac and more jazz/blues/funk/soul/rock/pop/prog area while leter they become more Hard Rock/Fusion(jazz)/Blues/Neo-prog like band.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:03
I don't know which one I wote for
Posted By: Tursake
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:08
Greatest thread ever! Toto is one of the best bands ever and I'm glad to find prog heads who enjoy them too Don't like DT nearly as much as Toto although it's a good band too, so I think I'll go with Toto
Ps. My avatar is a pic from the Toto concert I went to about a month ago!
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RYM: Tursake
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:35
Snow Dog wrote:
Can't think of anything I like by Toto.
I really didn't think that the voting was going to be this close.
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:40
Well, it's been a long time since this thread was on top of the pile. I'd like to think I've grown considerably since then. I honestly don't remember which band I voted for at the time, but these days I would pick Toto. Mainly because I'm sick of all the Prog snobbery, and would want to see some real balance.
But, it seems more people are on my side than I thought. Only three votes behind DT? Way to go, Toto!
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:42
Tursake wrote:
Greatest thread ever! Toto is one of the best bands ever and I'm glad to find prog heads who enjoy them too Don't like DT nearly as much as Toto although it's a good band too, so I think I'll go with Toto
Ps. My avatar is a pic from the Toto concert I went to about a month ago!
what was their setlist on that show, and how was the concert experience (I have seen them twise my self but that was with Mike Porcaro on bass, but sadly he have ALS
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:48
Let's see... one only managed to release one album in the 80s and the other one has been releasing material since the 70s. I think we all know which one was more productive during the Golden Age of music.
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:50
Posted By: Tursake
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 13:51
aginor wrote:
what was their setlist on that show, and how was the concert experience (I have seen them twise my self but that was with Mike Porcaro on bass, but sadly he have ALS
The concert was awesome, that was also my first gig I've ever attended
Here is a link to the setlist (there should be a piano / keyboard duel between uh... Stop Loving You and Africa, I think): http://open.spotify.com/user/matu93/playlist/5NBrCJEFaKZVYF35Ra7PLH - http://open.spotify.com/user/matu93/playlist/5NBrCJEFaKZVYF35Ra7PLH
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RYM: Tursake
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 16:22
^ I recomend some youtube clips from 82 when they played at Budokan in Japan, they are almost prog on that concert, with dual keabords, (Steve Porcaro and David Paich), mighty drumming by mr Jeff Porcaro, basswork by David Hunthgate, and the ever inspiraing Steve Lukeather on the axe.
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: August 11 2010 at 23:30
My favourite band vs. a band I can't stand. Decisions, decisions...
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: August 12 2010 at 21:22
Oh, I like both bands... well, I like Toto but love DT so, it's easy for me. Both bands have inspired me a lot, Lukather and Petrucci as well as Paich and Moore in keyboards... great thread...
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 13 2010 at 22:47
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Let's see... one only managed to release one album in the 80s and the other one has been releasing material since the 70s. I think we all know which one was more productive during the Golden Age of music.
I wish all of us could find the answer to our questions in such beautiful, consistent logic as yours.
Hmm...not familiar with most Toto albums, so no vote. There are actually some similarities between the two broadly....polished, slick and a tendency to favour 'commercial' choices, also a tendency to be too tight, too perfect at times, sacrificing warmth and emotion in the process. Based on what I have heard, I am partial to DT because the early albums had some of the energy associated with metal and were tight and cohesive which I cannot say about their later material.
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 14 2010 at 05:35
just wanted to share this rare piece of world music which is from the album Past to Present with Jean Michael Byron on vocals from 1990
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 09:30
I can't understand the distracktors of this song, so great melodies, playing, detales, every instrument pay a important role in this song defined bass line, great guitar line, amazing vocals, good drums and fantastic keybords, one of their best songs IMO, again I dont't understand all the hate this songs gets, one of the best ballads of the 90s
this is also epic teardripping song
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Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:55
DT
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:20
I remember getting Toto album and thinking how great the songwriting and musicianship was....I played the krapp outta that vinyl album...still have it...that was 1978 I think...Then the next album Hydra came out and that title track was soo awesome....
Toto for me.....
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 04 2011 at 18:29
bump
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 23 2018 at 13:47
I've voted Toto.
They did not give me an (The) Astonishing.
They've been been show-offs like DT have (Systematic Chaos especially).
Lukather is a better songwriter than Petrucci if you ask me. Everything's in good measure.
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 06:08
Dream Theater. Not even remotely close.
Toto is the best example of very talented group with mediocre music output.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 06:24
^ mediocre? how is that?
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 06:47
I would have ever believe I will vote Toto, but now I have done it!
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 08:38
Toto - I enjoy AOR a lot more than progmetal though.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 14:29
Two bands I don't listen to but then I have heard some DT albums and I do like a few of their tracks....can't say I have ever listened to a Toto album all the way through.
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 14:57
dr wu23 wrote:
Two bands I don't listen to but then I have heard some DT albums and I do like a few of their tracks....can't say I have ever listened to a Toto album all the way through.
dare I ask why not? :)
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: February 26 2018 at 15:04
DT
------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.”
JayDee wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosanna_%28song%29 -
Actually, I jest, but I am pretty certain that Steve Lukather and at least one of the Porcaros contributed to that Michael Jackson album. Does anyone know the details? I know that Steve Porcaro has a writing credit for Human Nature. Is it just this one song, or do Toto guys play on more?
They marked very much their songs with armonies and vocal melodies, but they never did aor. In my oppinion.
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(Kingfom of Desire, Tambu, Mindfields and Falling in Between) quite Pink Floydish espesially the long ballads. the earliest records off Toto are more in the veine of Steely Dan, Boz Scaggs, Fleetowood Mac and more jazz/blues/funk/soul/rock/pop/prog 
area while leter they become more Hard Rock/Fusion(jazz)/Blues/Neo-prog 
