Love Beach vs St. Anger
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Topic: Love Beach vs St. Anger
Posted By: Nightshine
Subject: Love Beach vs St. Anger
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 13:44
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The two masterpieces of progressive music will now clash in an epic battle only worth that of the battle of Team Edward vs Team Jacob. May the best album win. |
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 13:46
| The one with the tasteful epic and drums that don't sound like trash cans. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 13:54
Sorry, but I can't vote, as I really can't abide either of them
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 13:56
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The one with the drums that sound like trash cans... ------------- 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 14:12
They both are terrible, but I'll go with Love Bitch on this one (I can't believe I just voted for that!  ).St. Anger is unlistenable, though. I can't listen to more than 2 minutes of it without being ready to puke! ------------- 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 14:13
| I haven't heard either of them, but Love Beach has a cool cover. |
Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 15:45
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If you look beyond the cover Love Beach has some great songs. I remember buying St Anger when it came out and returning it the next day. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 16:40
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I can't endorse either album. I'm not a huge ELP guy, though I can listen to them in small doses. Not Love Beach though. Metallica are one of my favorite bands, and St. Anger and the Black Album (having maybe 3 songs on it I like) are the only two of their albums I can't stand to listen to. I do find the Some Kind Of Monster film entertaining. |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 17:27
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Almost nothing EVER can be as bad as St. Anger. Love Beach gets my vote, of course. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 21:55
| I don't know Love Beach yet, but I can't imagine it being half as bad as St. Anger is. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 18 2010 at 22:01
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I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you My favourite piece of music of all time |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 00:28
Hell yeah. Underrated album, underrated drum sound. Love Beach isn't that bad either. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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The T wrote:Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 01:22
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Love Beach has Canario at least.
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Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 02:38
Love! Beach! Love! Beach! Love! Beach! 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 02:51
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Hmmm - borderline 'Just for fun' this one, methinks... ------------- 
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 02:54
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I have unfortunately heard Love Beach, and it is truly rubbish. I'm too scared to try St. Anger. So, that is probably a good thing. No vote. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 03:40
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Love Beach is one of those albums that gets waaaaaaay more flak than it deserves, it's really not half bad. I'd give it a 3, maybe even 3.5 if I reviewed it.
St. Anger is an absolute joke, not a single second of decent music to be found there. ------------- 
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Posted By: bsms810
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 11:13
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I don't COMPLETELY HATE St. Anger.... I mean one of the songs id actually say is oooookay... so that gets my vote ------------- 'when was the last time you had a girlfriend?' 'I dont look at it as when, I look at it as who...and why' - David Brent |
Posted By: Nightshine
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 13:59
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This topic is a lot more one sided than I anticipated it to be. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:21
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Love Beach.
I hate it with a passion, but St. Anger is my least favourite album on this site. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:31
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Frankly, I never thought I would vote for Love Beach in any poll, at any time, under any circumstances, even under extreme duress. I was mistaken. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 22:57
There's nothing better than Hatred to unify people. 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: May 19 2010 at 23:09
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Can I vote for the third option of "the squealing sound my neighbor's car makes when it starts up because the fan belt is loose" ? ------------- 
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 00:18
I'd rather to smash my balls onto the fire grill than chose any of those albums.  ------------- |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 00:49
Fran tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick tock! Fran tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tock! My lifestyle determines my death style. The rising tide, it pushes to the other side. You live it or lie it, you live it or lie it! Fran tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick tock! Fran tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tock! Probably the most nonsensical lyrics I have ever heard. Lil' Wayne ain't got nothing on that sh*t. Having said that, St. Anger is the album I voted for. My World and The Unnamed Feeling are good songs, I don't care what anybody says. |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 01:33
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Love Beach is terrible degradation with mellow pop-spices. (nothing could be as bad as combination of mellow and commercial.) St.Anger is not excellent, but really good album. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 11:32
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both stink
but Love Beach was an honest mistake
St Anger was simply bad production and lack of inspiration ------------- 
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 11:34
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The one with the chest hair =D ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 16:34
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 16:45
| Love Beach......there had to be a better way to complete one's commitment to their record company. I voted for it but it could have been a far stronger album. |
Posted By: CinemaZebra
Date Posted: May 20 2010 at 23:23
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The one with the masculinity. (Love Beach)
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 14:50
| Love Beach is my choice. Not much of a choice though with the 3 smiling Hawaii Five-O beach boys on the cover. Some of it reminded me of Barry Manilow and company. Very cheesy. The destruction of prog in the late 70's. At least we had Pulsar and Ange because this was pathetic. |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: June 01 2010 at 16:23
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Love Beach...and I haven't even listened to it yet!
...That said, I actually like St. Anger even though it is most certainly a horrendously bad album. ------------- "Man is nothing else but that which he makes of himself" - Sartre |
Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: June 09 2010 at 21:55
I'm with you. I haven't listened to Love Beach either, but whatever it sounds like it has GOT to be better than St. Anger. ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 02:29
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St Anger I used to legit kind of enjoy it, now I love it in a "so bad..." type of thing.
I DO like the sound of the drums
 , the overall feel and return to metal. And really how can you not love St Anger it has:
.Offbeat drumming (TOTALLY on purpose and well done)
.Very easy to hear riffs
.Brilliant lyrics (I'm madly in anger with you, my lifestyle determines my death style)
St Anger for sure
YOU FLUSH IT OUT!
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Posted By: Kojak
Date Posted: June 10 2010 at 10:16
| As it's been mentioned a few times, is there anywhere I can hear Canario by ELP anywhere, I've not been able to find it on youtube...? |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 10:10
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Canario is best song on it - I have it on a compilation "Ultimate ELP" and it is very good. -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 09 2010 at 11:07
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I like St Anger. I like Love Beach a lot more though. Not a bad album really. honest. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 14:18
| The one with "Memoirs of an Officer and a Gentleman." |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 14:33
Much like nails on a chalkboard vs. puncturing you ear drums with pencils? |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 14:38
 
 Both.......... -------------   
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 15:27
| for some reason I want to buy Love Beach, just how bad can it be, im sure it is decent, not great but OK, to listen to on a vorspiel before a party (or on the beach) |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 26 2010 at 15:46
I thought a vorspiel was suppose to be a happy time before you go to a party??
Better that you play before a funeral.....just sayin
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: July 30 2010 at 08:18
| i'll give you a clue, it's not Love Beach. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 00:09
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I played St. Anger the first time and loved it since there was no sign of Fuel or Re-Fuel or Re-refuelier or The Oneforgivenable part 7 or whatever rehashed obnoxious radia oriented rock they were producing that 3 years it requires to take that kind of dump. I don't listen to SA anymore, but I respect the paradigm shift. It sounds like a tight garage band. The bottom line is, this is a band that is really not that musically talented trying to produce something different to an audience that hates change. "Just play Sandman and Whiskey jaro and get the funk out".
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 01:13
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No, this is rather the only time that Love Beach will win anything. Besides stinker of the century.
St Anger is appalling and not even one good track so it should lose this contest. -------------
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 01:14
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Actually can OP change the wording to 'which one do you detest least' - thats a better way to put it than which one do you love.......................... -------------
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 02:03
He was just being funny, obviously. Anyway, as I listen to Love Beach, once again I marvel at the flak the artwork can get for an album. This is not a bad album by any means though it's not great of course nor true to their style. Have you - as in a general 'you', not ACR - heard the album? St Anger on the other hand... Tapfret: The end of wanting to do something different does not justify the means, or, rather, the product. So, yes, I do prefer the commercially oriented Love Beach to St Anger because regardless of motives, the former is at least somewhat well put together. There's nothing wrong with music made with the aim of commercial success when it's well executed. Now, if you like St Anger for what it is, you are naturally entitled to your preferences. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 03:50
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OK for those who are not initiated heres the @#$%$#$% album tracks
lets start with
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 03:53
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heres something annoying
how dare they put down TARKUS!!!
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 04:01
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Ok now
the following lyrics take the biscuit!!!!!
bad production too - absolutely shocking!
now the better choice
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 09:23
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I don't even like good Metallica but as wretched as Love Beach is, it does have some decent tracks: All I Want is You is a decent pop song with heinous lyrics, The Gambler is an enjoyable boogie, Canario is good fun albeit a tad cheesy and Memoirs of an Officer and a Gentleman is in places quite brilliant with the caveat of the odd pile of lurking poo to negotiate. ------------- 
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 04 2010 at 10:41
Every time I see Love Beach cover, I want to sing 'at the Copa, Copacabana'. But it's not that bad. There are way more bad prog and non-prog albums. ------------- |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 05:04
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Love Beach. Yea, that album jacket is BS, lol, but i agree with people who are saying that LB is not so bad album as it is censured by many. LB is in the same level of Tormato, and miles above better album than And Then There Were Three. Just my opinion, of course. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 05:13
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I always thought the uncyclopedia parody cover art for St w**ker was hilarious but WARNING! There's a reason I'm not posting directly here as it is very rude. NSFW so click at own risk:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:St_w2.jpg - http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:St_w2.jpg
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: November 05 2010 at 06:11
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 08:20
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Love Beach - it's an ok album St Anger is rather awful if you ask me. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 17 2017 at 12:14
| At least Palmer's drums didn't sound like tin cans......... |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: September 18 2017 at 02:30
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St Anger. Least there are some decent songs on it, and I always said "Ya know it aint so bad and there's some interesting stuff, if only they raised the guitar, lowered the drums, cut many of the songs down (oh and ya know axe "kill kill kill kill!") itd not be so bad. I was proven right with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCiNPgoGa6M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCiNPgoGa6M where some people did pretty much just that  Actually went farther and re recorded the whole thing with instruments that sound like...instruments and not a music software program on a waterlogged computer
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 14:48
| Listened to Love Beach last night, for the how ever many hundred times since 1988. Still enjoy it. Carl is definitely the star of the show. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 01 2017 at 16:09
^ Sadly it's the last time Palmer sounded like that . The next album he made was the short lived AOR band PM before totally reinventing his style for Asia. There is an expanded version of Love Beach with some interesting demos that still show the band has something. Unfortunately the production is just too watered down and the best not talk about the cover artwork. 
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 01 2017 at 19:32
| The cover art stinks. It's putrid. It shows nothing but three, overly bloated egos. I wish it had a neat cover artwork and a different title - maybe, just maybe, it wouldn't cop the flak that it does. There's some decent music and ideas contained within. I stand by that. |