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Topic: The 2010-2011 NHL Season Thread
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Subject: The 2010-2011 NHL Season Thread
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 22:02
Wasn't a thread for this season, so I made it. Here we will say our thoughts on the NHL seasons and I guess for the time being, make our predictions for whats to come.
GO HABS GO! 
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 22:47
Go Pens!
NO headbanger emoticon!
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 22:58
I watch more hockey than any other sport (aka, I watch at least one game per year) and that one game is always the Pens. Go Pens!
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 23:29
Go Leafs Go!! Go Leafs Go!!
I won't be watching their first game as I'm going to my sister's high school graduation, but I'm looking forward to some Hockey Night In Canada on Saturday. 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 08:02
Let's go RED WINGS!!!! Let's go!!!! Hopefully, the Wings additions plus the Black Hawks subtractions works to the Wings advantage this year.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 13:16
I hope the habs don't even make the playoffs this year.
I went to the game last Thursday and they,re playing like Kraft Dinner. I was born in Montréal and have lived here most of my life and lived through the glory years of the 70s when they won 4 cups in a row ( '76 - 79 ) they also won the cup in '71 & 73. As far as I'm concerned the spirit of they game has all but disappeared and it's all about money and marketing. Back in the '50s during the off season The Rocket had to tie fishing flies and sell them in order to support his family and he got in sh*t from management for doing this( he even scored 50 goals in 50 games once). Now we have guys making millions who look like they shouldn't even be playing on the farm team.
Another thing that irks me is that all this stupid memorabilia that is being peddled everywhere you look in the city. I even saw a Montréal Canadiens toilet seat. But I guess that's appropriate. And this crap ain't cheap either. I think the toilet seat was going for $ 50.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 17:10
^ Yeah, the marketing thing is pretty true. But that's the case for just about every team.
I do think that the Wings are in for a great year, but then again they've consistently had great years.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 19:19
Yeah you can't go anywhere in the Toronto area without seeing a Leafs logo slapped on some random object. Every Canadian team probably has that problem.
Does anybody actually plan on going to a game soon? Can't afford that privilege myself as tickets are damn hard to come by, and watching from home has all the comforts I'd need anyways. My best bet would be to either head to Ottawa or Buffalo to watch a game, but first I need a job. 
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 21:20
Ah, the Maple Leafs: the Cubs of hockey
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 22:53
manofmystery wrote:
Ah, the Maple Leafs: the Cubs of hockey |
I wouldn't wish for a triple digit championship drought on any team, but I know of plenty of people that would wish it on Toronto. 
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 18 2010 at 21:34
Including me.  lolbumps
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 19 2010 at 09:55
I only go to a habs game if it's free. And I always hope that they lose. Money Money Money. f**k the habs. No spirit left.
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Posted By: mourningknight
Date Posted: October 23 2010 at 14:13
There has to be more hockey fans here. Hockey and Prog go together! Anyway,here's to a great season.... LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!!
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 15:54
My boss just gave me tickets for tonight's Detroit Red Wings game against the Phoenix Coyotes. Ahhhwooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:03
I'd love to go to another hockey game. The last (and only) one I went to was a Leafs/Kings game at the Maple Leaf Gardens in 1996. I think the score was 5-2 Kings, but their team was certainly lacking star power. They had Rob Blake, but that was about it.
I'll plunk down the money to see the Leafs again, but I need to actually make some money first. 
Good thing I'm into several sports, so I have some more affordable alternatives in the meanwhile.
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:07
I need to go to another Thrashers game...they're actually doing alright (9 points as of now). I love hockey games, the atmosphere is amazing.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:01
The Wings lost 3 to 2 last night. It was still a pretty good game. They fell behind 3 to 0 in the first period and then spent the rest of the game playing desperate catch-up. Probably made it a better game to watch than one where they are sitting on a lead and playing not to lose.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:22
Anyone want Marc-Andre Fleury?
You can have him.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 10:26
We'll trade you Chris Osgood for him.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 11:10
rushfan4 wrote:
We'll trade you Chris Osgood for him. |
No geriatrics
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 11:11
Beggars can't be choosers.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 13:26
rushfan4 wrote:
Beggars can't be choosers. |
Well, I still think he has enough name recognition to get something decent in return. The problem is that he has a no-trade clause. Maybe he'd wave it for one of the Canadian teams but I'm not sure what they'd give for him.
I'd love, and I've been saying this since the middle of last season, to see the Pens try to package Fleury and Letang for a defenseman with size and a young goalie.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 21:44
Wings just gave up a goal with 24 seconds left in the 1st period so the Canucks now lead 1 - 0. Where is King By-Tor when I need someone to trash talk with?
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 11 2010 at 22:14
I just got back from tonight's hockey game. Red Wings beat the Oilers 6 to 2. The Wings led 3 - 0 in the first and went on from there. Great game. 2 goals for Dan Cleary and 2 goals for Tomas Holmstrom. Also, the Mule (Johan Franzen) got his 100th career goal.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: December 02 2010 at 20:30
Edmonton 5, Toronto 0
I should check how many times the Leafs have been shut out this year because this is getting pathetic.
Edit: It's been 6 times. 
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 00:56
Sidney Crosby is scoring at an early 90s pace right now, yipes
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 03 2010 at 01:27
Whoa yes. Stamkos hasn't scored in a while, didn't he have like 19 goals in 20 games at some point?
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 20:47
Ugh. The Red Wings are about to lose their 3rd in a row. They're losing to the Nashville Predators 3 to 1 with 4 minutes left in the game.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 20:53
Ooh. Franzen just scored to make it 3 to 2 with 1:33 left to go.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 02:28
Pens are playing crazy good hockey right now and Sid is simply insane. Still don't trust Fleury to hold up for the long haul but I'd love to be wrong.
Crosby, 30 games in:
26 goals
50 pts
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 19:40
Yeah, Wings are up 3 to 0 over the Devils going in to the 3rd period. Yesterdays 4 to 2 win over Montreal was epic.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 03:29
I just hope that the Habs end up in last place. I was born & raied, educated in Montreal and I hate them. Nothing but a struggling business. f**k the Canadiens.
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 17:55
GO LEAFS GO! It's payback time in Edmonton...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 20:07
Good to see the Wings are beating the Blues 3 to 1 going into the 3rd period after they got whomped 5 to 0 earlier this week.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 20:11
Ovechkin and Crosby are going to appear on The Price Is Right. It is hard to imagine either of them actually doing their own grocery shopping. 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 21:00
How cool!!!! Niklas Lidstrom just scored into an empty net to get his 1st career hat trick, and the Wings win 5 to 2.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 04:49
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Jimbo and I made a deal yesterday, that if the next season starts in Helsinki like the previous two (and more importantly, if we can afford it), we'll go and watch the game. It's been one of my lifelong dreams to see an NHL game live, and I believe his too.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 08:52
Flyers
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 23 2010 at 09:15
It's an exciting team to watch. Get well soon Pronger.
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Posted By: Kix
Date Posted: December 24 2010 at 21:51
Rangers fan here
Ducks are my team out west
Check this hit out, month old, but worth watching every time
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 13:44
Anyone planning on watching the All-Star game which starts in just over an hour? Kind of an interesting way of selecting teams this year, with the two Captains picking teams like we used to do on the playground or in Canada on the frozen pond. I'm kind of disappointed that Lidstrom is the only Red Wing present, but I suppose with all of their injuries it isn't entirely surprising. I would have liked to see Franzen and Zetterberg get to go to the game, but I guess on the bright side, it gives them all some extra rest and no chance of a freak injury during the game.
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 07 2011 at 07:49
I'm a huge Canucks fan and a diehard fan of hockey. I watch two games a night on average on the NHL Center Ice. It's great to see the Canucks in first place and have thier best chance to go all the way this year. It's been a long 40 years, especially the first 20 seemed like a 100 years.
IMO the game is great and rivals the entertainment of the '80's and the early 90's. The speed and skill is amazing. The NHL implemented some good rules to open the game up post lock out to take out the dead puck era(clutch and grab) and the trap style defence though some of the few bottom dwelling teams still use it(NYI, NJD).
The playoff races are fantastic especially in the west. Last years Cup champions 'Hawks might not make it. There is more parody in the NHL than in other pro team league IMO.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 07 2011 at 16:22
I'm pretty psyched. I'm going to see an Original Six matchup between the Red Wings and the New York Rangers tonight. Should be pretty good? Assuming that either team is capable of scoring a goal.
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 07 2011 at 17:02
^^^^^ The Wings have been shot out the last two games. The NYR are the hardest working team in the league IMO. Not much offence, but great defensively and led the league in block shots. Will Jimmy Howard be able to get back on his game or will the Wings go out and get another 'tender(?). Enjoy the game.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 08 2011 at 08:40
It was a pretty good game last night. It was great to have Pavel Datsyuk back in the line-up last night. He was the number 1 star with a goal and an assist. Howard made 45 saves, a number of them standing on his head-type saves. Jiri Hudler also scored a goal and had an assist last night, which was great to see. I was just commenting on what a disappointment he has been this year and he scored a goal about 10 seconds later. 
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: February 08 2011 at 15:11
Canucks are looking good!
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 08 2011 at 23:50
^^^^^ Another one of our D got hurt last night. It was ugly. Keith Ballard twisted his knee. Milan Mihalek somewhat slew-footed him IMO. MRI was done on his knee today. I haven't heard the results yet.
rushfan4 wrote:
It was a pretty good game last night. It was great to have Pavel Datsyuk back in the line-up last night. He was the number 1 star with a goal and an assist. Howard made 45 saves, a number of them standing on his head-type saves. Jiri Hudler also scored a goal and had an assist last night, which was great to see. I was just commenting on what a disappointment he has been this year and he scored a goal about 10 seconds later.  |
I watched the game on TV. Howard was the star of the game. Ryan Kesler and Datsyuk will be battling it out for the Selke. I would say Kesler has the edge as of right now as Pavel has been hurt. Both great palyers.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 10:55
Last night in Boston, Bruins 8 Habs 6. Lots of fights. I think that was the only interesting part of the game last night. Not like watching a habs /Bruins game back in the 70s when you actually got to see a hockey game. I mean the goofiest thing is watching goaltenders brawl. I remember Ken Dryden just leaning on his stick whenever a bench clearing brawl would break out as if nothing was happening as if to say " I'm waiting guys".
Just got this by Jim Souhan of the Minneaplolis Tribune : Rewritig The Sports Bible.
"There aren't enough skilled players to make the average game interesting, the shootout is silly and the teams are given a point even when they have effectively lost the contest, makig the NHL the professional version of 5th grade in-house soccer ( congradulations little Billy, you didn't fall down! Here's a medal.
Every game should be a winner takes all 2 points. Eliminating the self-esteem point will make for more dramatic races and encourage teams to win at the end aof regulation overtime.
Get rid of the shootout, and make teams play 4 on 4 then 3 on 3 then 2 on 2 then 1 on 1, until there's a winer.
Ditch 4 teams, get rid of unsustainable markets and ensure there is always something to watch. You've heard of basketball's " shot clock?" Install a fight clock. Every 10 minutes, the goons skate to center ice and brawl, while play goes on around them. The need for new teeth will stimulate the economy."
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 10 2011 at 20:20
^^^^^ I watched that game last night. Entertaining but a sloopy game in all aspects; positioning, goaltending, turnovers, etc. Reminded me a game between the two from 1983. Bruins pounded the Habs physically.
Every game isn't going to be a barn burner. That's the same in every pro team league in NA. IMO, the NHL has more parody than the NFL, NBA, and MLB. Detraction of teams could be argued for every league.
I agree with the shootout being silly. I found it a novelty when it was first introduced but now it find it ridiculous. The self-esteem point actually makes for a better races in the conferences but is not reflective of the true standings. Maybe a 3-2-1 point system which would give incentive to a team to win in regulation time and also in OT.
No question some teams should be moved but Bettman's ego is in the way. I think there will be some movement within the next couple of years.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 09:41
I could handle the first two expansions but when WHA teams started becoming NHL teams that's when my interest started to wane. I grew up with the habs in the 70s when they were winning cup after cup. When players were loyal to the team. There's no spirit in the game anymore. $$$$$ that's it. A trade is no longer a trade but no more than a business deal. And the playing is heartles and sloppy and the Boston / Montréal game the other night was a case in point.
Like Souhan suggests ditch a few teams reduce the number of games. Teams are playing back-to-back games. Last night the habs were back here in Montréal losing to the NYI in the last round of the bloody shootout. A team can't be 100 % after playing the previous night and jumping on a plane and having to play the next night. I don't know if Price was suspended after that fisticuffs in Boston but Auld faced almost 40 shots in regulation time. Montréal's defence were like a bunch of zombies.
I just looked at a video my friend made of the greatest hockey fights ever and even the fights were better back in the seventies ! Bouchard vs Schultz round . There was even one with Larry Robinson clocking the hell out of Dave Schultz.
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: February 11 2011 at 18:53
^^^^^I also grew up with hockey in the '70's and was a Broad Street Bully fan when I was an early teenager, then becoming a full fledge Canucks fan in the late 70's. I hated the Habs back in those days as they won so often. No question, one of the greatest team ever in any pro sports league. Larry "Big Bird" Robinson did beat the hell out of Schultz. He didn't fight very often but man, when he got mad, look out. A class guy. He's on my D for my all time team.
The players were loyal to the teams, more so then as now, but none the less alot of players still are. The owners "back in the day" were a lot less loyal to the players as compared to present day IMO. The owners and GM's treated the players like poo. Big money has changed the business in all sports league, probably more so in the leagues where there is a salary cap.
That Bruins/Habs game was an exception. Most games I've seen this year have been very good. There's no doubt in my mind that the players are more skilled, faster, and teams implement more sophisicated game plans, schemes and designed plays.
One reason why the scoring in the NHL isn't as high as it used to be is because of the goaltending. IMO, the position that has advanced the most. Now, goalies play a butterfly/positioning game as comapred to the standup/react/reflex goalies of the 70's, 80's and even some in the eraly 90's. Also the equipment has helped out as well.
I don't know if they fights were better then or not. There is some pounding and punching in todays game. Bigger boys throwing haymakers and IMO players are quicker with thier punches now.
I some what equate the hockey of the 70's, 80's and early '90's to the "golden era of prog"('69-'75), as it is based on nostalgia in many ways. "The good old days" one might say.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 18:29
Good weekend for the Wings. They came from down 3-0 to beat Nashville 4 to 3 yesterday, and they have just defeated the Minnesota Wild 4 to 2, to clinch the Central Division, and either the number 2 or number 3 seed in the playoffs. Go Wings!!!!
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 19:42
Leafs are almost officially eliminated from the playoffs . They've been playing their balls off since the all-star break, but you can't expect teams to collapse in order to get in. It would be even harder for us if we were still in the West (if the Leafs have the same record of course).
Oh and I just saw this morning that Jimmy Howard played in Detroit's last game. I'm glad he's okay. I apologize on behalf of Joffrey Lupul for that injury, but we lost that game anyways. 
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: April 07 2011 at 13:33
Ugh, I really don't like watching the Flyers limp into the playoffs like this. They've been playing like crap lately. Hopefully, they'll turn it around soon.
And don't get me started on shootouts....
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 22:10
The Wings win game 1 against the Phoenix Coyotes...err...Winnipeg Coyotes? Jets? 4 to 2. Jimmy Howard looked pretty good tonight, and The Mule had a goal and an assist. This guy just loves playoff hockey.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 13 2011 at 22:19
rushfan4 wrote:
The Wings win game 1 against the Phoenix Coyotes...err...Winnipeg Coyotes? Jets? 4 to 2. |
And all without Zetterberg! I'd let him rest for game 2 as well, and not worry about it until the series goes to Winnipeg...errr...Phoenix.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 13:25
Wings up 4 - 0 early in the 2nd period.    
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 14:16
If the league wants to bring in more fans they better hope someone knocks the clutch and grab Wings out before they get to the finals. Only thing worse than them making it again would be if the Devils had made the playoffs. If you want a good example of how to interfere every play without getting called, though, then the Wings are your team.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 14:38
Wah wah wah comes the sound from Sid Crybaby's town.
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 11:06
Canucks in four, Canucks in four!!!
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 09:16
Wings in 4, Wings in 4!!!! And without Zetterberg and Franzen last night. 6-3 over the Phoenix Coyotes, soon to be the Winnipeg Jets?
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 09:25
rushfan4 wrote:
Wings in 4, Wings in 4!!!! And without Zetterberg and Franzen last night. 6-3 over the Phoenix Coyotes, soon to be the Winnipeg Jets? |
I hope so. I remember a while back hearing the name might not be the Jets (the Moose??)  , but I hope it is. Especially since it would be the same franchise / same history.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 10:16
Me, being a Canadian, would love for the Jets to return.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 21 2011 at 17:08
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Me, being a Canadian, would love for the Jets to return. |
I've always been a proponent of cutting all teams residing in cities that don't have an average annual snowfall of at least 20 inches.
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/snowfall.html" rel="nofollow - http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/snowfall.html
See if your town makes the cut.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 26 2011 at 22:32
I am watching the Vancouver - Chicago game. I'm seriously not sure which team I should be rooting for. On one hand, it would be good to see Chicago win and eliminate the number 1 seed, which would also give the Wings home ice against the Predators instead of starting on the road against the Sharks. A Nashville series means normal starting times versus a series against the Sharks which means staying up until 1:00 in the morning (or later if they go to overtime) to catch the games. On the other hand, Chicago is the defending Stanley Cup champions and it might be better to have them eliminated.
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Posted By: Hoipolloi
Date Posted: April 26 2011 at 22:45
I don't know what happened to Vancouver
It would be nice to see the Blackhawks win thought. I feel it would add to the atmosphere of this year's playoffs - which are great, by the way.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 26 2011 at 23:54
rushfan4 wrote:
I am watching the Vancouver - Chicago game. I'm seriously not sure which team I should be rooting for. On one hand, it would be good to see Chicago win and eliminate the number 1 seed, which would also give the Wings home ice against the Predators instead of starting on the road against the Sharks. A Nashville series means normal starting times versus a series against the Sharks which means staying up until 1:00 in the morning (or later if they go to overtime) to catch the games. On the other hand, Chicago is the defending Stanley Cup champions and it might be better to have them eliminated. |
Remarkable game, just going into overtime. The one who should be worrying is San Jose. Chicago loses, they face the Wings. Chicago wins, they face Chicago. No good outcome for them. 
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Posted By: Hoipolloi
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 10:35
Overtime: a fitting end to that series
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 13:31
I had my remote between the Van-Chi game and the Jay game. I was hoping it didn't go to overtime, but it did and I hit the pillow hard. For the sake of Roberto Luongo's safety, I'm glad the Canucks pulled it off. The only time you want to see a team win back-to-back championships is when it's your team.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:56
In most sports if you outplay the other team for all but 1 second of a game you end up winning. Teams like New Jersey, Detroit, and Tampa (the way they played tonight, at least) are a major reason why hockey is still a fringe sport. The NHL needs to open up the ice, take out fighting and headshots, and cut down on the goalie pads. Until then even teams with talent (like Tampa) will be content to clog it up, play no offense at all, and hope their goalie makes a few key saves. What a sickening display of hockey.
Side note: I don't think I've ever seen anyone look more useless over the course of a series than Ryan Malone. I could've sworn he had talent when he left here but I was wrong. He's a skating PP for the other team.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 22:10
I'm happy to see the Bruins and Lightning continue on.
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Posted By: QuestionableScum
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 14:11
manofmystery wrote:
In most sports if you outplay the other team for all but 1 second of a game you end up winning. Teams like New Jersey, Detroit, and Tampa (the way they played tonight, at least) are a major reason why hockey is still a fringe sport. The NHL needs to open up the ice, take out fighting and headshots, and cut down on the goalie pads. Until then even teams with talent (like Tampa) will be content to clog it up, play no offense at all, and hope their goalie makes a few key saves. What a sickening display of hockey.
Side note: I don't think I've ever seen anyone look more useless over the course of a series than Ryan Malone. I could've sworn he had talent when he left here but I was wrong. He's a skating PP for the other team. |
The NHL has opened up the ice to a great extent by taking out the red line and the rule against two line passes. I don't see how you could feasibly change that even more without just changing hockey in a way that is tantamount to selling it out to the highest bidder. Changing to olympic size ice is an option, but I don't think that would help much, as most European leagues that play on that larger surface play an even more defensive oriented trapping game.
The reason why clogging the neutal zone is so common is because it is so effective. Any team that doesn't play a kind of trap in contemporary hockey is just being stupid. I think this is one reason why Chicago did as poorly as they did in the regular season. Yes, they lost some key players, but because they do not clog up the neutral zone, but play a very open style they get caught.
I completely understand the points on fighting and headshots. Although I doubt you will see the former go away any time soon.
With regard to the size of the goalies padding. I understand the point, but it does not seem to me that teams have that much of a problem scoring goals.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 14:11
manofmystery wrote:
In most sports if you outplay the other team for all but 1 second of a game you end up winning. Teams like New Jersey, Detroit, and Tampa (the way they played tonight, at least) are a major reason why hockey is still a fringe sport. The NHL needs to open up the ice, take out fighting and headshots, and cut down on the goalie pads.
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I hate seeing headshots, and if you had to get rid of fighting to discourage the dirty plays, then I wouldn't bat an eyelash. At least it would free up roster spots from 1 dimensional tough guys like Derek Boogard and Colton Orr and give them to players who have a better overall game. Maybe the league fears cutting out the rough stuff because they see themselves more in competition with UFC instead of MLB, NFL, and the NBA in the states.
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Posted By: QuestionableScum
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 14:17
Stooge wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
In most sports if you outplay the other team for all but 1 second of a game you end up winning. Teams like New Jersey, Detroit, and Tampa (the way they played tonight, at least) are a major reason why hockey is still a fringe sport. The NHL needs to open up the ice, take out fighting and headshots, and cut down on the goalie pads.
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I hate seeing headshots, and if you had to get rid of fighting to discourage the dirty plays, then I wouldn't bat an eyelash. At least it would free up roster spots from 1 dimensional tough guys like Derek Boogard and Colton Orr and give them to players who have a better overall game. Maybe the league fears cutting out the rough stuff because they see themselves more in competition with UFC instead of MLB, NFL, and the NBA in the states. |
I think that fighting is such a tradition in hockey, that it would still alienate a lot of people if it were to be banned. Go to a game in Edmonton, at least, and the only thing that gets the fans cheering more than a winning goal being scored is a fight. I think fighting is stupid, and there is no good reason to continue to have it, but the NHL does risk alienating fans by getting rid of it. Although, the NHL has introduced dumber rules that ought to frustrate more people in the past (I am talking about the regular season shootout nonsense).
I may be being optimistic, but I think there has been a definite attempt in the last 2-3 years to crack down on headshots more than before. Of course, they are still too prominent, but it looks like there is a move towards further cracking down on them.
For example, consider the way Torres hit on Seabrooke was treated this year, in contrast with how Torres' hit on Michalek was treated in 2006.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 14:34
QuestionableScum wrote:
Stooge wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
In most sports if you outplay the other team for all but 1 second of a game you end up winning. Teams like New Jersey, Detroit, and Tampa (the way they played tonight, at least) are a major reason why hockey is still a fringe sport. The NHL needs to open up the ice, take out fighting and headshots, and cut down on the goalie pads.
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I hate seeing headshots, and if you had to get rid of fighting to discourage the dirty plays, then I wouldn't bat an eyelash. At least it would free up roster spots from 1 dimensional tough guys like Derek Boogard and Colton Orr and give them to players who have a better overall game. Maybe the league fears cutting out the rough stuff because they see themselves more in competition with UFC instead of MLB, NFL, and the NBA in the states. |
I think that fighting is such a tradition in hockey, that it would still alienate a lot of people if it were to be banned. Go to a game in Edmonton, at least, and the only thing that gets the fans cheering more than a winning goal being scored is a fight. I think fighting is stupid, and there is no good reason to continue to have it, but the NHL does risk alienating fans by getting rid of it. Although, the NHL has introduced dumber rules that ought to frustrate more people in the past (I am talking about the regular season shootout nonsense).
I may be being optimistic, but I think there has been a definite attempt in the last 2-3 years to crack down on headshots more than before. Of course, they are still too prominent, but it looks like there is a move towards further cracking down on them.
For example, consider the way Torres hit on Seabrooke was treated this year, in contrast with how Torres' hit on Michalek was treated in 2006.
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Yeah it would alienate, so I don't really blame the league for keeping fighting. I honestly rarely notice anymore when a game takes place without a single fight. It actually bothers some fans when that happens, even if their team wins.
The weird thing is when some of the same hockey fans get heavily critical when a fight breaks out in another sport. With baseball they'll call it roid rage, and basketball/football they'll call them a bunch of thugs or other such nonsense. It's not like emotions don't run high in other sports, and these athletes are expected to have much more restraint.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 14:11
The Wings gave away game 3 last night to the Sharks and are now down 3 games to none. The exact same scenario as last year. Apparently, they have an 8% chance of winning the series being down 3 games to 0. Make room on the golf course Canadiens and Penguins and Capitals, etc... the Wings are about to join you.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 15:17
I hate hockey.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 15:42
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Go Bruins! |
That what you were trying to say? 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 06 2011 at 22:38
What an awesome game I witnessed tonight. The crowd was so loud the last 5 minutes of the game. I think we might have willed the Wings to victory. They live to fight another day against the Sharks with a 4 to 3 victory.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 07 2011 at 14:07
Go Sharks. Gotta knock the ultimate interference team out. Want open ice and offense, not clutching, grabbing, and interfering.
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 06:10
Canucks finally finish off the Predators in 6. One of the worst series I've seen. Nashville reminds me of the NJ Devils of the late'90's/early 2000's. The trap defensive scheme. Just brutal hockey to watch. Hoping the Wings/Sharks go 7. Who ever comes out of that series to play the Canucks it should be a wide open offensive series.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 21:49
Wooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally unexpected, but we have a Game 7. Wings 3 - Sharks 1. I will be in transit to Florida on Thursday, so hopefully we'll be staying at a hotel which has VS so we can pick up the game.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 11 2011 at 00:15
Blast! What are you doing San Jose!
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Posted By: QuestionableScum
Date Posted: May 11 2011 at 12:14
manofmystery wrote:
Blast! What are you doing San Jose! |
What they do best, attempting to blow it in the playoffs....
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: May 11 2011 at 14:47
Part of me wants to see the Sharks (Thorton, Marleau, etc. , couldn't care less about Heatley) prove their critics wrong, but Detroit is the best run franchise in the league so I shouldn't be surprised they are pushing it to a seventh game.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 22:55
Hats off to the Sharks. I'm sad the Wings lost, but that was the best damn series I've seen in a long time. Too bad Franzen, Bertuzzi and Cleary were all injured. The game would've been different.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 12 2011 at 23:31
Phew, Team Interference is out!
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 08:41
Canucks in 7 over the Sharks.
Lightning over the Bruins in 6.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 10:36
Hoping, for hockey's sake*, that it's a Canucks/Bruins final.
*considering the other two teams are ones that would be eliminated from the league under my plan 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 11:29
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Derek-Boogaard-of-the-New-York-Rangers-passes-aw?urn=nhl-wp4873" rel="nofollow - - RIP Derek Boogaard
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 08:22
After watching the Bruins last night-yuk-I think they should have the option of declining penalties and play full strength all the time. They have more trouble moving the puck with a man advantage-terrible!!
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: May 15 2011 at 10:41
Epignosis wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Derek-Boogaard-of-the-New-York-Rangers-passes-aw?urn=nhl-wp4873" rel="nofollow - 28 years old. It's going to be a couple of weeks before the autopsy will be finished.
The Bruins are brutal on the PP as TB has a very good PP% and PK% in the playoffs. That's why I picked TB to win the series. Kaberle has been awful since coming over from the Leafs.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 10:51
A news conference is going to be held at noon regarding the sale of the Thrashers and potential relocation to Winnipeg: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=367433" rel="nofollow - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=367433
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 31 2011 at 12:12
There be hockey in Winnipeg once again!
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 04:08
Padraic wrote:
There be hockey in Winnipeg once again!
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 Jets was my first favourite team in the NHL, in the beginning of the 90s when Teemu Selänne was playing the first couple of seasons there. I really hope the new team will take the same name and look.
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 14:41
Whoo go Canucks! Great game 1.
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