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Topic: The German Side of ProgPosted By: Ijon Tichy
Subject: The German Side of Prog
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 13:43
Hi Folks! After visiting this site regularly for a couple of years, I finally decided to join as a member and enlighten you with my insights. I 'm too old for Rock 'n Roll and too young to die ( I bought "Dark Side Of The Moon" in the year of release) and, apart from that, I 'm musician from Berlin, Germany. When I have the time, whitch is not too often, I 'm afraid, I 'll be happy to share my knowledge about classic prog, musical details and german kraut (not the vegetable). On the other hand I 'd love to learn more about present prog, especially the symphomic, Zheul (ork for prog?), and Canterbury branch. Don 't panic, I 'm not going to write a review about Dark Side.
Replies: Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 14:37
Welcome! I am also from Berlin! (I thought I was the only one in a 100 km radius...)
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 14:41
Welcome indeed from another PA member who bought Dark Side of the Moon in the year of its release.
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Posted By: Ijon Tichy
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 15:32
Berlin not exacty the capital of german prog but you can be shure, you 're not alone at all!
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 15:35
Hi and welcome to the forum. As you are from Germany, have you heard of a band called Lake? and if so do you like them? or am I the only one around here that does!
------------- Tony C.
Posted By: Ijon Tichy
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 15:50
Very good band, in deed! Not really progressive, though. Goes more into the Toto corner, sounding very american. Top musicians and songs. "On the run" and "Key to the rhyme" are my favourites. Not knowing them, you can hardly believe it 's a german band.
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 21 2011 at 15:56
That's true, I have all their stuff on album and most of the cd's except the last cd. I love them and the singer is my fave vocalist along with Glenn Hughes. Alex Conti is a great guitarist and vastly underrated.Great musicians as you say, i'm glad you like them. Those two tracks you mentioned are probably my faves as well! Great to have you here!
------------- Tony C.
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 05:23
Hi I am into Krautrock, Kraftwerk and Rammstein too - German rock rules!
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 16:33
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Hi and welcome to the forum. As you are from Germany, have you heard of a band called Lake? and if so do you like them? or am I the only one around here that does!
No you are not. You have not asked me, yet! I am a Lake fan. They are from my hometown Hamburg, where I was born.
Great band. I would call it 'westcoast' rock, in the style of
Eagles, The Little River Band and Crowded House. If you like Lake, check out also the other artists from Hamburg: Elephant and Ian Cussick.
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 17:47
Welcome the site!
Ijon Tichy...great, great username! Most likely you'll meet two of our Baldie Girls (also from Germany) on this forum...they'll recognize it too!
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 17:55
Formentera Lady wrote:
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Hi and welcome to the forum. As you are from Germany, have you heard of a band called Lake? and if so do you like them? or am I the only one around here that does!
No you are not. You have not asked me, yet! I am a Lake fan. They are from my hometown Hamburg, where I was born.
Great band. I would call it 'westcoast' rock, in the style of
Eagles, The Little River Band and Crowded House. If you like Lake, check out also the other artists from Hamburg: Elephant and Ian Cussick.
Oh, sorry about that! Isn't Alex Conti from Berlin? Great band anyway!
------------- Tony C.
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 18:13
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Formentera Lady wrote:
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Hi and welcome to the forum. As you are from Germany, have you heard of a band called Lake? and if so do you like them? or am I the only one around here that does!
No you are not. You have not asked me, yet! I am a Lake fan. They are from my hometown Hamburg, where I was born.
Great band. I would call it 'westcoast' rock, in the style of
Eagles, The Little River Band and Crowded House. If you like Lake, check out also the other artists from Hamburg: Elephant and Ian Cussick.
Oh, sorry about that! Isn't Alex Conti from Berlin? Great band anyway!
Yes, Conti is born in Berlin, but he did a lot in the music scene of Hamburg.
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 18:18
Formentera Lady wrote:
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Formentera Lady wrote:
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Hi and welcome to the forum. As you are from Germany, have you heard of a band called Lake? and if so do you like them? or am I the only one around here that does!
No you are not. You have not asked me, yet! I am a Lake fan. They are from my hometown Hamburg, where I was born.
Great band. I would call it 'westcoast' rock, in the style of
Eagles, The Little River Band and Crowded House. If you like Lake, check out also the other artists from Hamburg: Elephant and Ian Cussick.
Oh, sorry about that! Isn't Alex Conti from Berlin? Great band anyway!
Yes, Conti is born in Berlin, but he did a lot in the music scene of Hamburg.
Thanks for the info! i'm much obliged to you.
------------- Tony C.
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 22 2011 at 18:22
clarke2001 wrote:
Welcome the site!
Ijon Tichy...great, great username! Most likely you'll meet two of our Baldie Girls (also from Germany) on this forum...they'll recognize it too!
Yes, Ijon Tichy, I was about to post a comment on that... but I thought the non Germans on this site would not understand it. I love the series, too . For those, who do not know: it is a science fiction TV series inspired by a story from Stanislav Lem. In the form of humor it is a bit similar to Douglas Adams the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Posted By: Ijon Tichy
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 12:16
Yeah, great TV series, though my voyages are better and more completely descibed in my "Star Diaries". Highly recommended! Funny that so much prog fans also love SF and vice versa. Sure, both has much in common. Would be a nice new forum topic. Lot of prog is inspired by SF. Just now Stuart Hamm's great fusion album "Radio free Albemuth" comes to my mind, a Philip Dick hommage. Mr 4001 might know!
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 13:46
Ijon Tichy wrote:
Yeah, great TV series, though my voyages are better and more completely descibed in my "Star Diaries". Highly recommended! Funny that so much prog fans also love SF and vice versa. Sure, both has much in common. Would be a nice new forum topic. Lot of prog is inspired by SF. Just now Stuart Hamm's great fusion album "Radio free Albemuth" comes to my mind, a Philip Dick hommage. Mr 4001 might know!
Nope! i'm afraid not
------------- Tony C.
Posted By: Ijon Tichy
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 15:05
Stuart "Stu" Hamm is an american bass player-guru especially known for his artistic tapping technique. He worked with Steve Vai, Frank Gambale and others, made several solo albums. Mostly fusion stuff, but that album I menchant, his first , featuring Allan Holdsworth a.o., is worth to check out. As for Philip Dick 's Novels.
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 15:21
Ijon Tichy wrote:
Stuart "Stu" Hamm is an american bass player-guru especially known for his artistic tapping technique. He worked with Steve Vai, Frank Gambale and others, made several solo albums. Mostly fusion stuff, but that album I menchant, his first , featuring Allan Holdsworth a.o., is worth to check out. As for Philip Dick 's Novels.
Hi, yes I know who Stu Hamm is, I don't have anything by him, but i've seen a lot of him playing on Youtube, he's a very good player although he uses tapping a lot which is a technique I actually don't like much. It's Philip Dick who I havn't heard of.
------------- Tony C.
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 18:34
Well, I don't know who Stu Hamm is, but I know who Philip K. Dick is...
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 18:46
I know PKDick too but have no idea of that other stuff. Is it on youtube... Hitch Hikers is and its wonderful
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 19:55
Ijon Tichy is also on tube. But it is in german, and I mean, you really have to be good in german to understand it. Because Ijon Tichy, the main character, is supposed to be a russian cosmonaut, so he speaks german with a false russian accent. The name is a 'speaking name': Ijon is similar to ion and 'tichy' in russian means 'silent'. Though he speaks all the time. He flies in a space ship that looks like a living room. His only company is a female hologram. So here is the episode about the time paradoxon in the theory of relativity (part 1 of 2):
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 15:26
All this time I thought I was the only member here from Germany.
(actually, I'm not 'from' Germany, but it's where I live currently).
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 15:29
NO ... you're not alone ....
nice Ijon Tichy videos btw - the fist time I came across
Posted By: Ijon Tichy
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 14:25
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Ijon Tichy wrote:
Stuart "Stu" Hamm is an american bass player-guru especially known for his artistic tapping technique. He worked with Steve Vai, Frank Gambale and others, made several solo albums. Mostly fusion stuff, but that album I menchant, his first , featuring Allan Holdsworth a.o., is worth to check out. As for Philip Dick 's Novels.
Hi, yes I know who Stu Hamm is, I don't have anything by him, but i've seen a lot of him playing on Youtube, he's a very good player although he uses tapping a lot which is a technique I actually don't like much. It's Philip Dick who I havn't heard of.
You 're right. Put on that album after a couple of years. Too technical. But because you pick the Rick: Do you know Hellmut Hattler and Kraan? Cool Kraut-Prog-Jazz (just invented that term)
Posted By: Ijon Tichy
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 14:40
Valarius wrote:
All this time I thought I was the only member here from Germany.
(actually, I'm not 'from' Germany, but it's where I live currently).
You should know: Germans are everywhere. According to your logo: you 're into Heavy Prog or FC St.Pauli?
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 20:31
Ijon Tichy wrote:
clarkpegasus4001 wrote:
Ijon Tichy wrote:
Stuart "Stu" Hamm is an american bass player-guru especially known for his artistic tapping technique. He worked with Steve Vai, Frank Gambale and others, made several solo albums. Mostly fusion stuff, but that album I menchant, his first , featuring Allan Holdsworth a.o., is worth to check out. As for Philip Dick 's Novels.
Hi, yes I know who Stu Hamm is, I don't have anything by him, but i've seen a lot of him playing on Youtube, he's a very good player although he uses tapping a lot which is a technique I actually don't like much. It's Philip Dick who I havn't heard of.
You 're right. Put on that album after a couple of years. Too technical. But because you pick the Rick: Do you know Hellmut Hattler and Kraan? Cool Kraut-Prog-Jazz (just invented that term)
Let me see now......Hellmut Hattler? mmmm' oh, yes! the blonde haired guy with spectacles? Only what i've watched on Youtube. He is a good player. He had a natural Ricky in the very early 70's which i'm sure was a 4000 bass with an added humbucker at the neck, Martin Turner from Wishbone Ash has one of those (since been made to look like a 4001). Hellmut later used a 4001 which had an added pick up in the middle, very unusual ! I think he uses something that resembles a Precision now in white that has two pick ups. How do you describe their music? from what I recall it sounded a little bit like Focus only with psychedelic/jazz influences? I havn't heard them for a long time, i'll look them up on Youtube when I have the time, not now though as just got back from playing a gig myself, it's 2.30am and i'm very tired! PS: I disaprove of modding Ricky basses!! that's a sin!