What happens when...
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Topic: What happens when...
Posted By: desistindo
Subject: What happens when...
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 12:16
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What happens when u realise u have already listen to all genius and brilliant prog albums? Dont u get depression somethimes? lol. Well, i cant say that we can wait for future stuff cause i dont like very much prog metal, and that seems to be the prog sub genre that most envolve nowdays. I dont get tired to listen the same stuff, but my solution is try to compose original music, but till now nothing genial, lol. How about you? Do u get hope to listen to any genius prog album in future? |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 12:26
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My brain hurts. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 12:45
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Snowy, your avatar moved! Myself, no fear at all - too much good music still being released, too much good music that's not as well known to be discovered. And of course, there are good genres of music beyond prog as well :) I mean, it's barely March and there are already somewhere in the range of 15 albums from 2011 that will be released by the end of this month that I want to buy. And many more have been released that I'm not interested in. So... |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 12:55
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Hi,
Never ... there is always something else to listen to ... I might stick with that one album a few more times, but generally, I'm so open to new and different things, that it does not interfere with my natural curiosity for music and the arts.
You have to be quite artistic oriented, to not get stuck on one thing, and become just a fan. It's your choice in the end, but one of the nice things about learning anything about progressive music, is that ... tomorrow there is always new and more music ... but you have to be open to it!
As they say in the spiritual areas ... everything you need and want is right in front of you ... you just have to get at it and on it. The problem is you and I being able to identify those ... when we are conditioned to commercial, social ideas, social standards, and of course, the devil himself ... and advertising. We can blame Peter Cook for that one!
The rest is easy! And lots of fun, but I think that most "proggies" here don't enjoy some fun with a cement mixer! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 12:55
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How do you know that you've already heard all the albums that are worth listening to? Gosh, all the artists that are listed here at Prog Archives are mind boggling. The rest of my life is not long enough to get through even a tenth of them. |
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 13:05
| Stupid topic. You can listen to all "classics", but you will always get surprised by some albums that are more unknown and obscure. You can always find gems. The classics aren't the best things there. All you need is interest and search. |
Posted By: madmike
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 13:09
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Even if you were to make such a presumptuous statement, "all the brilliant albums" is a moving target. If you think you've listened to them all, more are coming out almost every day. Also, you'll learn over time that the spectrum of progressive music includes a lot of stuff that is just simply obscure or overlooked that ends up being absolutely brilliant. Just because you haven't heard anyone talk about it doesn't mean that it couldn't possibly be an essential listen of the genre. |
Posted By: desistindo
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 14:29
Agree, but its real difficult to imagine that an album such Larks Tongues in Aspic could fall in obscurity. Genius stuff always emerge, even if the artist doesnt want to get known!
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madmike wrote:Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 14:57
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Try listening to other genres as well maybe? Prog isn't the only genre worth listening to. And open your mind to Prog Metal, you'll find there's a lot there for you. It makes no sense to be closed minded about any sort of music.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 15:52
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 19:05
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It's not possible to listen to all the good music ever recorded, so no, I've never thought that. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 19:42
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Posted By: desistindo
Date Posted: March 12 2011 at 05:00
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 12 2011 at 05:53
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Depth not width. Delve deeper not wider. The art of listening is not in how much you can listen to, but how well you can listen. Collectors and completists go for quantity, but they skate across the surface, only diving deeper when something catches their attention. If you "have already listen to all genius and brilliant Prog albums" then I suggest you haven't actually heard them. This is the reservation I have about people who have reviewed hundreds (or even thousands) of albums here in a short space of time. Prog is not an immediate experience, it takes time to appreciate, to listen and really understand what you are hearing. I am an avid Pink Floyd fan, but it took me 30 years to "get" Atom Heart Mother and the same for Tales From Topographic Oceans (though I never was a real Yes fan).
I suspect that modern Prog and Prog Metal is exactly "that" and "that" is what we subconsciously recognise when we hear "it", but "it" hasn't had time to register precisely what "that" is. This is why we can say "this is Prog" without knowing specifically what we mean by "this", or by being able to give an accurate "definition" of what "this" means - it is not the "Prog" part we have problems with, it is the "this" part. Only time and proper listening will reveal the secrets.
Modern Prog and Prog Metal also does not have the age of experience to filter the wheat from the chaff - what we recognise as genius and brilliant from the past has been filtered by countless music fans and countless hours of listening, modern music has not achieved that yet. There are no undiscovered old Prog gems only undiscovered new Prog gems and time is on their side - the risk is that we are so preoccupied in looking backwards to see them.
Of course, this is a knife that cuts both ways - it does not matter how old or how new something is or when it was created/recorded/released, what matters is when the listener heard it, how long ago and how many times. A new listener hearing it for the first time hears it with preconceptions and prejudices and will bias their judgement accordingly - no one would listen to Larks Tongue In Aspic today if it hadn't been elevated to 'genius and brilliant' status over the past 35 years by countless Prog fans and the same will be true in 35 years time for some of the modern Prog and Prog Metal albums of today. ------------- What? |