A proposal for a poll tournament
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Topic: A proposal for a poll tournament
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Subject: A proposal for a poll tournament
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:35
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Hey guys. Over on DreamTheaterForums, there is a very popular tournament known as a Survivor. What happens is we take one band, and go through all of their albums one by one. Each round, each person will vote for their least favourite track. The song with the most votes at the end of the time limit (typically 1-2 days) is eliminated, and the next round is posted. The last song remaining off each album progresses to the finals. While the 2nd and 3rd place (sometimes just 2nd) songs go to the consellation, where the top 2 will make it to the finals. The finals work the same way as an album, with voting the least favourite song and such. The finals decide the final ranking. The last song remaining is the winner. A survivor for just one band may take several months, and B-Sides/Non-album tracks usually are all compiled into one series. If their are too many, often multiple songs will be eliminated in a round to compensate for this. So I was thinking of introducing this thing to PA. I plan on beginning with Porcupine Tree. However, if you guys aren't interested, I'll let the idea rest. So whaddya say, guys?  (P.S. Mods move from the poll section if you wish, but I feel I'll get the best results here) |
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:50
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To be honest: Ugh.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:51
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I think to reduce the time to get through all of a band's outcome, if we include B-Sides and such, you should create around 3 polls at a time. Every round could be 36-48 hours? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:53
Like I said, in the B-Sides survivor often multiple songs will be eliminated at once. So basically the same. |
Horizons wrote:Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:56
I'd like to see the Senmuth Survivor tournament happen. 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:57
I think there should be multiple polls on studio albums as well. I worded that strangely, i know. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 17:58
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Sounds like an extended version of the Weakest Link games over at the Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Why not? You'll soon find out if people here don't care for it, but it seems like many will. P.S. I apparently haven't got enough posts to even vote in a poll...  |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:01
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You need about 40 posts. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:02
| That may take me a while... |
Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:03
...unless I cheat. Like this.  (I won't. I promise.) |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:05
Post in Shred. ;D ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:12
Ehh. I find it more fun 1-by-1. Most do. But for albums with many tracks, such as On the Sunday of Life, I will probably go multiple tracks at once.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:13
Nahh. Just partake in every conversation you have even the slightest interest in.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:13
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I don't mind. Might get quite exciting? Ok, maybe not. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Iron Nate
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 18:30
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If you poll it, they will vote.
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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 19:06
| Me like |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 20:09
| I say, just do it and see what happens. It might just as well be fun. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 21:09
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I'm down for this. Maybe do 2 albums at a time, just to speed it up a little, and not have too many polls going on at once, and possibly confuse people.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 21:12
| Yeah, doing two at once sounds good. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 23:22
He has released 6 albums and announced 3 since this January. A poll shouldn't take more than 10 minutes ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 16 2012 at 23:59
I think the first poll for him would have to be a multi-parter eliminating albums until we're left with the top 25 or so.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 00:28
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Yeah sure why not. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 01:21
| And when I get up to 100 posts I can play too! |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 06:21
You have forty-three posts, so you should be good to go. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 08:11
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Go for it. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 08:25
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Eh, I'm in.
(sorry, I was going to initially write more but had a sudden guest in my office) I enjoyed last year's post 1980 tournament for the most part, I give credit to those that have the energy to run such a tournament, a lot of undue grief tends to be heaped on those brave souls. I say viva la Riverside! ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 09:17
You are quite right sir! I've just noticed it says I can cast my vote.
I thought I'd read somewhere you had to get 100 posts before voting. That will teach me not to read things properly - I've been posting on every poll going just to build my total up!
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 09:25
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Sure im in ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 12:00
Why not? ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 12:28
So there is one poll just to eliminate ONE song? And then a new poll with the same album minus one song? So an album with 13 tracks will have 12 polls?
Maybe I misunderstood it.... if not, it's not very good. Camel's The Snow Goose would need 24 polls then.. it's better to eliminate more songs at a time and have a longer poll time limit so more people can participate.
Maybe if you could eliminate half the songs in the first round. Then in the next round, half the songs again. And from there, one song at a time. But I don't know if you can make multiple choices in polls. For The Snow Goose the first round would require 13 choices. Then, out of 12 you pick 6. After that, one song at a time. If the album has only 8 songs you could elimiate 50% in the first round and then one song at a time. But album of only 4 songs, you could do one at a time from the beginning.
Just some ideas, hehe.. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 12:35
And as I said, longer albums usually have 2 or 3 songs eliminated at once. It's then decreased to one when we're nearing the end. |
Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 13:27
| I'd prefer to do Zappa first. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 13:30
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 13:32
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Zappa, Senmuth and Zorn all teh way!
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 13:43
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 13:45
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Go for it. I wasn't a member yet when the post 1980 polls were going on, but I was visiting at the time and really enjoyed following the tournament. They're more fun than just random polls, imo. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 14:40
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 18:01
You forgot Tangerine Dream. There, now I have my first 4 survivors planned.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 23:14
I say yes because PA needs more polls  ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 17 2012 at 23:29
If you want 5, you could include...Klaus Schulze, I guess. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 00:42
| ^ Don't forget Rick Wakeman! |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 00:55
That would be very naughty and entail the fluffy spankhammer I know it's a bit of a pain but the 40 posts restriction was introduced on the forums to avoid people creating fake accounts to mess with the polls. (Yep I know, how sad and empty can some critters lives be? )Welcome to the site ------------- 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 01:46
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What about this ? http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5948" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5948
Or this ? http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5663" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5663
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 09:42
| I'm sounds fun & where's the harm? |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 11:50
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Sure, it sounds interesting. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 18 2012 at 12:12
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GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: February 21 2012 at 05:39
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Interesting. Lets' go. But communicate your deadlines if you decide to fix some (and I think you should) ! :-) -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Capt Fongsby
Date Posted: February 21 2012 at 09:34
Oooh, fluffy... The 40 post rule makes perfect sense; - I'm old enough to not be surprised by human behaviour... Thank you for the welcome! I've actually made great use of the Archives for years to help me discover lots of great prog, so a big thank you to everyone involved! I never really thought much about the forum side of it, though, until recently, but I'm glad I eventually did. Seems like a nice hang-out here (and I'll be voting soon enough).  |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: February 21 2012 at 12:46
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I was thinking about what other bands this would be good for. You don't want to have a Survivor for a band that's too obscure, not many votes would come in. I was thinking about doing a Yes one, or King Crimson. We'll see. @ DisgruntledPorcupine - when you do these Survivors, the top 2 songs from each album go to the finals? I'm not doing consolation rounds or anything (still thinking about doing a B-sides round). ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 15:07
I found here a first trace about "Survivor" polls. At the same time I'm sorry for Anthony H. that I accused him of releasing this endless avalanche of polls. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |