z.a.r.p.e.k. (A-F) XI
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Topic: z.a.r.p.e.k. (A-F) XI
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Subject: z.a.r.p.e.k. (A-F) XI
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 10:52
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I've been playing these all weekend and have decided it's between 666 and Lucifer Rising. And considering i was raised in a strict Christian home this makes no sense. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 12:34
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Hmm... Going to go with 666. So many good mo,ments, and alot of chuckles from me throughout. Definitely a feel good album for me. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 12:41
That's a good way to put it. It's almost like an irreverent or humerous way of looking at the apocalpse. Some have compared in that way to Jesus Christ Superstar. It's one of my favourite double albums too. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 12:46
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Tough, tough choice. I'll probably go with my gut, but I'm going to ponder more. Let's see... the leading horse is white.... the second horse is red.... ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 13:07
I love Aegian Sea myself, and when Irene Papas goes Meg Ryan on our ass with a hefty orgasm  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 13:10
Sadly, I am shutout once again. Even the Tigers anemic offense had more oomph than me on this poll. I would suspect that every prog fan probably should have at least heard the Aphrodite's Child and Eloy album, but I can't say that I have.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 13:12
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....but really, this was not the hardest choice for me seeing as Lucifer Rising is here. I love that album. Makes one ponder what truly equates evil, when a man is able to pull music like this off - and still sit incarcerated somewhere because he once killed a drug-dealer... The music however is gorgeous and far from evil imo. It's somewhere between Grobschnitt's Solar Music, Floyd's Embryo and Free Electric Sound from Gila. -And I happen to adore all of the above... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 13:30
 I think i know where your going with this.------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 13:35
My choice as well. Funny but i thought 666 would be my choice but listening to Lucifer Rising yesterday afternoon sealed the deal. Love the trumpet in that one too. Both though are very special recordings. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 13:47
Agree wholeheartedly with both of those observations  I have the special edition with a whole second cd of trippy long tracks running around 25 minutes a pop. Love those as well. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 14:01
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666 is interesting but not really one of my faves Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes gets my vote ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 14:04
666... 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 14:16
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I've decided to vote for Can Delay 1968. I think it's actually a better album than Monster Movie, even though it's only outtakes. But as we've seen time and time again though, Can's outtakes can be pretty amazing things. I listen to Delay 68 a lot, so that figured heavily into my decision. I'm probably more impressed with 666 as a really interesting idea/album, but I can't say I listen to it nearly as much as Can. As for Embryo (another favorite band), they came close to getting my vote too. I've never heard of this Lucifer Rising album, but it looks like it's worth checking out. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 14:22
666 is a pretty cool album and it's definitely worth tracking down.
That's not exactly my fav Eloy album but it's rated highly on this site.
I watched some of that Tigers / Angels game Saturday and Verlander actually looked human  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 15:01
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Don't know all of them, but Silent Cries is my favourite Eloy - easy vote there.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 15:23
I love the Malcom Moody era of CAN . Having said that i think Tago Mago is still my fav. I originally gave Delay 5 stars but eventually put it back to 4 stars but man i have a lot of respect for that one. I would probably go Tago Mago, Monster Movie, Delay and Soundtracks as my top four CAN studio albums. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 17:32
I picked Steig Aus-man, l love that album too, John! It is my all time favorite Embryo recording, along with We Keep On. The band are really firing on all six cylinders on both of those records.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 17:38
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A.R. & Machines for me...that's a crazy trippy album, for sure!
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 17:53
| I didn't think of The Green Journey as Die Grüne Reise and because of that I voted for Lucifer Rising (which also is a masterpiece and so is Edge of Time, Stieg Aus & 666). |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 17:55
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Ah ok, I didn't make that connection either. My vote still stands though. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 17:58
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`Dom - Edge Of Time' gets my vote amongst a stack of great albums!
I only discovered this one recently, and it's a beautifully spacey combination of early Floyd, perhaps the first Nektar album, and even a more cosmic version of the Vangelis `Dragon' album. Love the overwhelming psychedelic organs! An album lost in deep space!
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 18:13
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^ I only discovered it recently too, I think on the "Krautrock Space" thread. It's a sweet little albumen. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 18:26
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Hey, HolyMoly, I totally agree - pity about the rather rubbish cover it has, though! Even a cliched outer-space/astronomy picture would have been better!
But it's become quite a favourite of mine in a very short amount of time! Damn that `Embryo - Steig Aus' album came a close second in this poll for me, though! |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:02
| I have to go with Eloy this time Silent Cries.... is a masterpiece, I say! |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:03
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:07
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:21
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 19:58
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I just listened to that Embryo album at work, and the bass playing is a knockout, especially on that first track! I detected a bit of a Santana vibe on that one too, without the all dominating electric guitar of that band!
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 20:14
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 20:18
| Doug! No, not heard that one! I've only got `Steig Aus' and `Rocksession' (I think that's what it's called off the top of my head), and I love them both! Perhaps I should check out `We Keep On' next?! I assume all their albums are instrumental? |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 20:31
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 21:16
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Good to see Eskaton get a deserved vote. That Etron Fou Leloublan's album is my favourite from them. Probably the most accessible and produced by Fred Frith and he adds guitar and violin too. I'm pretty sure it was Frith's "Speechless" album that Etron Fou Leloublans plays on. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 22:18
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I think it was Speechless, yeah. I was going to say Gravity, but that's Samla/The Muffins.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 22:30
One I don't hear mentioned a lot, but it's my favorite by Embryo, is "Embryo's Reise", from the late 70s. A real hot, diverse double album. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 22:36
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 22:39
| Thanks Doug and HolyMoly! I'll make a note and look into both those albums you recommended! I've had those other two I mentioned for a few years now, so I'm probably long overdue to add a couple more Embryo albums to my collection! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 22:41
I've never seen/heard JCS. But yeah...I didn't expext it to be so fun and light but it works really well. And it's barely a double...maybe thats helps.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 10 2012 at 22:45
I think my favorite is The Four Horsemen. But theres gems all over (including the percussion/orgasm duel). ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 09:13
Yeah i didn't even know Etron Fou ... was on a Frith album until Holy Moly recommended Speechless a while back, and when i looked it up i was surprised to see them listed there. I do need to get that one eventually. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 10:52
| I voted for Eskaton, love that band. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 10:54
So YOUR the guy who voted for Eskaton. I can almost count on you voting either Rio/Avant or Zeuhl. And there's nothing wrong with that.  ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 13:39
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How on earth did Eloy run away with this? Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to love in their music, also on this particular release, but yeah.........really? I just find it somewhat baffling, especially seeing as there's a fair few albums on here that most likely would appeal to fans of Eloy - and to me personally, they're just so much better. Lucifer Rising, Edge of Time, 666 as well as Die Grüne Reise - all of them retaining a similar psychedelic feel combined with melody and strong song-writing. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 13:54
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I have all of these albums except for Eloy's. I just never got that into Eloy (and I guess Iooked to the lesser-known in the past). My choice is Lucifer Rising, which is a stand-out album, and interesting conversation piece, followed by Die Grune Reise, Edge Of Time and Steig Aus. A number of years ago my vote definitely would have been for Ardeur (for a time I even liked it more than 4 Visions), but I'm mostly into somewhat different avenues these days. ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 14:01
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Lucifer Rising is one of my alltime favourite chillout albums. The way the ending comes on like a full on psychedelic catharsis gets me every time. Spending all that time up to it - getting fed melody lines and hooks, little pieces of the coming finale, - and then it finally erupting with guitars and trumpet ablazing - to me is just pure genius. Yeah, I love that album. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 14:19
It's my least favourite from the list. I prefer their early stuff like Inside and Floating. I actually moved those two up in these polls so that Dawn and Ocean will be in the tougher final two polls. I think what it boils down to is that Eloy is more well known by prog fans because of them being labelled as the German Pink Floyd. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 14:22
I'm impressed to see Lucifer Rising doing so well, it's more well known than i thought. Hopefully more people will check this album out. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 14:26
I think you're right. People vote for the one they know. So if Eloy are the German Floyd, Pulsar presumerably are the French? Incidentally, I just caught your review of the debut by Pulsar, and I happen to feel much the same about it. I even love the cardboard sound of the whole thing ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 14:49
I recall it having some buzz about the forums. It is a terrific record, and is one of my favourite albums in PA currently. Some fans of earlier Pink Floyd should dig this track: ------------- Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 19:56
Oh boy after me saying i'd rate that Eloy album last of this list here i am listening to their Floating album and being blown away. It is my favourite from them along with Inside though. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 20:22
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I've heard all of them except the Eloy and Dom ones, and I pretty much like them all about equally. Voted for EFL.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 11 2012 at 21:20
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 12 2012 at 09:25
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 12 2012 at 11:40
Interesting how that works isn't it ? As soon as a cd is out of print you see the high priced used ones go up for sale. Can't blame them of course it's all about supply and demand. I'm glad you got it though on MP3.  Good deal too.------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |