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Topic: Genesis News
Posted By: Zenbadger
Subject: Genesis News
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:20
I noticed that 2 hours ago Genesis posted a very interesting post on their Facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/genesis?ref=stream&fref=nf

Does anyone know what this news is?! 

I think the fact that they have a new logo is very promising indeed...



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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:34
The fact that the new logo is cheesy is not promising...

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:48
I guess it is a tour or maybe even a new album. They're talking about "some exciting news tomorrow". Anyway, Phil Collins has shown some signs of renewed activity lately.

Btw, the new logo doesnt impress me...


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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:50
Meh. Ermm

As a cover image it might be cool, but as a logo...not so much. A logo should say something about the band, all this says to me is that "Genesis" the band is all about "One Face" (anyone care to guess who??).

As with the recent Yes debacle I am soooo wary of my heroes reforming or coming out of retirement that very little of what is said excites me these days. The proof will always be in the pudding. In the last 10 years there has only been two albums from the giants that have really resonated with me. The Keith Emerson Band and King Crimson A Scarcity of Miracles.


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:53
If they did a new album with Phil, I'd be pretty stoked about that.  We'll see.

And I think the logo is fine.


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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:55
Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"


Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:57
I actually kind of dig the new logo; it fits well.

Let's see what this news is all about...


Posted By: Zenbadger
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:58
I like the logo!

As for the news..

Mike Rutherford is on the road with Mike and the Mechanics in April and May.

Phil Collins has announced his first live show in 4 years for December. 

Maybe a 2015 Autumn tour? 


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:00
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"
So am I, in a way. LOL


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:00
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Meh. Ermm

As a cover image it might be cool, but as a logo...not so much. A logo should say something about the band, all this says to me is that "Genesis" the band is all about "One Face" (anyone care to guess who??).

As with the recent Yes debacle I am soooo wary of my heroes reforming or coming out of retirement that very little of what is said excites me these days. The proof will always be in the pudding. In the last 10 years there has only been two albums from the giants that have really resonated with me. The Keith Emerson Band and King Crimson A Scarcity of Miracles.

Too often the old dinosaurs deliver only decent albums in their attempts to escape their fossile state.  I fear that the same will be the case with new work by Genesis. From this point of view the logo with its shadowy face makes some sense.

Nevertheless there may be some surprises: VdGG's A Grounding in Numbers  was an excellent album (imho). Other good ones: Ian Anderson's Thick As a Brick 2 and Clockwork Angels by Rush.


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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:04
It looks like what happens when someone's pen explodes in their shirt pocket. But I don't care what their new logo looks like. If the news is a new album, I'll be so stoked, I'll hardly be able to stand it while waiting for it to come out.

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:23
My ear to the ground (a journalist near to one of the band members) thinks that this may well mean a reunion of the three key members but also possibly with Hackett (though probably not Gabriel) with a tour, as Phil Collins has largely overcome his back injury and can gig again.

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Posted By: Zenbadger
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:32
If the Hackett part is true then this would be AMAZING!

I'd like to think that it has legs as we know they've been meeting for the BBC documentary and Hackett's Genesis Revisited tour wraps up at the end of this year. 

Gabriel's tour wraps up in December also. Although may be being a bit too hopeful...

Can't wait for tomorrow!




Posted By: Galactic Melt
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:34
Amazon shows the following:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/R-Kive-Genesis/dp/B00MV5LR9K/ref=pd_ybh_1

Spanning 42 years, this 3-CD, 37-track set documents the band’s history with classic Genesis material compiled alongside selections from the solo careers of Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, and Mike Rutherford / Mike + The Mechanics. Genesis and their associated solo projects have accumulated a remarkable and undiminished series of accomplishments over the years, and have collectively amassed an incredible fourteen chart-topping albums as well as over two dozen more which reached the Top 10. In total, Genesis and the members’ related solo projects have sold more than 300 million albums worldwide. Chronologically ordered, R-Kive features the Genesis’s biggest hits including ‘Invisible Touch’, ‘Turn It On Again’, ‘Land of Confusion’ and ‘I Can’t Dance’. Along the way it also visits Mike + The Mechanics’ classics ‘The Living Years’ and ‘Over My Shoulder’, Collins’s ‘In The Air Tonight’ and his Philip Bailey duet ‘Easy Lover’, and Peter Gabriel’s ‘Solsbury Hill’ and ‘Biko’.

I have no idea if this is what the announcement will be, or if it's unrelated. We'll see....


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:34
I think they have reached a point in their lives/career where bringing in Hackett for new music will at least shake it up more than a new logo---but sadly--- I doubt it will happen


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 09:40
Originally posted by Galactic Melt Galactic Melt wrote:

Amazon shows the following:http://www.amazon.co.uk/R-Kive-Genesis/dp/B00MV5LR9K/ref=pd_ybh_1Spanning 42 years, this 3-CD, 37-track set documents the band’s history
with classic Genesis material compiled alongside selections from the
solo careers of Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett,
and Mike Rutherford / Mike + The Mechanics. Genesis and their associated
solo projects have accumulated a remarkable and undiminished series of
accomplishments over the years, and have collectively amassed an
incredible fourteen chart-topping albums as well as over two dozen more
which reached the Top 10. In total, Genesis and the members’ related
solo projects have sold more than 300 million albums worldwide.
Chronologically ordered, R-Kive features the Genesis’s biggest
hits including ‘Invisible Touch’, ‘Turn It On Again’, ‘Land of
Confusion’ and ‘I Can’t Dance’. Along the way it also visits Mike + The
Mechanics’ classics ‘The Living Years’ and ‘Over My Shoulder’, Collins’s
‘In The Air Tonight’ and his Philip Bailey duet ‘Easy Lover’, and Peter
Gabriel’s ‘Solsbury Hill’ and ‘Biko’.
      
      
I have no idea if this is what the announcement will be, or if it's unrelated. We'll see....



I would hope the news is more exciting than this. To the hardcore Genesis fans, this would mean almost nothing, as we already have all of this music on the original albums. A career retrospective is less than exciting, unless it were to include a whole lot of previously unreleased material.

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 10:17
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"

Lol--so true---which makes me think this is the cover for the new thingy listed on AMazon---if I wanted to be an optimist (and with my fav groups ,doing what  I want like touring with Hackett--- that's pretty futile) Maybe putting out a CD with all the original guys could lead to a tour with all of them? Doubt it ---without hope you cannot start the day.Wink


Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 10:34
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"


That's what I get from it too.

Also meaning that if they tour, the music they play will probably be from the 80's. I probably wouldn't be able to afford tickets anyway...


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 11:10
Bring back Gabriel and let him do the artwork. 

Anderson-Ponty Band has a very cool logo, and the snippets of music they have released are impressive!  And, they reached their Kickstarter goal!  Check out the sound clips. 

https://soundcloud.com/921associates/i-see-you" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/921associates/i-see-you


Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 11:14
Seriously, I'm going to be so irritatied if this is another compilation release.

I would absolutely love either new music or a tour.  I loved Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance, I get it, those albums really aren't prog, but I love them nonetheless.  Bring on the new music . . .


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 11:34
I predict a new album with Gabriel and Hackett. A beautfully played and produced sonic soundscape with dreamlike lyrical imagery.

Ok, maybe not. Probably an overpriced box set of everything they've ever done - re re re mastered - including recordings of Spinal Tap style studio disagreements and punch ups.

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 15:27
Someone in the know from another site says it's just a compilation announcement involving all the members of the band to be released and coincide with the BBC Doc on the group in September. No reunion---no candy floss, toffee apples no clowns---except from the management that think we need re-re released material in another form.


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 15:34
Unless this compilation has "The Movement" on it, or something as interesting all I can say is

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Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 15:54
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Someone in the know from another site says it's just a compilation announcement involving all the members of the band to be released and coincide with the BBC Doc on the group in September. No reunion---no candy floss, toffee apples no clowns---except from the management that think we need re-re released material in another form.

No candy floss? No toffee apples? No clowns?! Unhappy


Posted By: Snowbound1997
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 18:45
Another compilation would be a HUGE middle finger to fans. That being said, im still cautiously optimistic for this announcement. The logo reminds me of the self titled 1983 album (a very good album), so if there is a new album, it will most likely be Collins, Banks, and Rutherford. And who knows, maybe Hackett will be in the lineup.

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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 19:27
Oh goody, the band is taking the road of their first manager, 'let's keep repackaging stuff and try to sell it again'.  I'm really hoping this isn't the case.



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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 19:49
Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"


That's what I get from it too.

I probably wouldn't be able to afford tickets anyway...


No sh*t .

 Trans-Siberian Orchestra is playing in Toronto in December. Ticket Prices range from $77 to $619.  Yes that's correct, $619 freakin' bucks to see a concert. Concerts, like sporting events are moving closer and closer to the domain of the rich. I appreciate the fact that these artists no longer really 'make money' with CD sales and are more or less controlled by corporate interests at just about every level, but I would love to see a classic prog artist rebel and do a series of smaller hall concerts on their own like in the good 'ol days. Low tech staging with top level playing. Hell, I'll even help care the gear in. Now that's something to crowd source.


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 20:04
I'd love to think it was a new studio album with a Hackett appearance, but I really don't think Gabriel would be involved. Although the guy is good to still be involved with discussing the band and seems to be on good terms with the others, he really left Genesis behind sooooo long ago.

But a new studio album with Phil, Mike and Tony doesn't seem that unrealistic....so many other `oldies' acts are putting out new albums, why should Genesis be any different? Just as long as it's not a freaking covers album, all good!


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 21:31
To expect a new album may seem like wishful thinking. However, Pink Floyd is releasing a new album, and I would have thought that to be even less likely; and King Crimson has reformed. On the other hand, after Yes's last album, I try to keep my expectations in check, so as not to be disapointed.


Posted By: Watcher of the Sky
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 21:35
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"


LOLLOLLOL


I saw this in their Facebook page today too... I believe is a new album or a reunion comming



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 22:01
The only Genesis news I'd like to hear is the return of Collins on drums , Gabriel on vocals, and Hackett on guitar.
 
Cool


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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 21 2014 at 22:03
Given their second-most recent facebook announcement in June about an upcoming BBC documentary, I would suspect that the new announcement is merely a release date or a trailer or something like that.


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 00:28
Another compilation album I won't be getting.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 00:49
Originally posted by tboyd1802 tboyd1802 wrote:

Logo says to me "Look at us, we're stuck in the 80's"

And they show a photo of the band from forty years ago, yet only list the last three members as active. Disingenuous.

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 01:53
Maybe a new album heavily influenced by Fish-era Marillion, IQ, The Watch, Citizen Cain and Big Big Train.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 02:05
You would think a thread called 'Genesis News' would be posted in prog news right? Nah....so I moved it.

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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 02:43
Nothing could be promising that comes from 60+ guys.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 03:42
....I have more faith in the 'new' Pink Floyd proposition......


Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 04:18
I qutite like the new logo. But I don't have 'Easy Lover' or 'Over My Shoulder' in my collection and I won't be starting now.


Posted By: Quirky Turkey
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 04:45
Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Seriously, I'm going to be so irritatied if this is another compilation release.



And...........it's a compilation release. Dammit.

"Spanning an incredible 42 years, ‘R-Kive’ is a new 3-CD, 37-track set that documents the band’s history in the most comprehensive way yet. Compiled by the band themselves via a process of collaboration and elimination, ‘R-Kive’ takes an in-depth, chronological journey through the catalogue and - for the first time ever for a Genesis collection - includes three personally chosen selections from the solo careers of Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, and Mike Rutherford / Mike + The Mechanics."


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 05:16
Is that all there is? More than ever I feel tempted to give a one star rating in advance (of course accompanied by a blind (p)review to put in some more weight): Poor, only for completionists.

I quit Disapprove.



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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 05:43
Regarding that new logo, if they release a new album the cover art should show Cynthia with a croquet mallet ready to hit on those scrambled letters...


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 07:32
We've always known that the record exec definition of the phrase "Exciting News" isn't the same as the one we use in the real world.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 07:36
It's just the ordinary 'watering-down' of the language - be that the English or the Danish. Believe you me, we get it here too. It's everywhere I look. It's why words like 'super' and 'extra-ordinary' are flung around so often. 

Then again, 'Mildly Interesting Genesis News' isn't exactly going to shake your tree... 


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Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 07:39
Originally posted by Quirky Turkey Quirky Turkey wrote:

Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Seriously, I'm going to be so irritatied if this is another compilation release.



And...........it's a compilation release. Dammit.

"Spanning an incredible 42 years, ‘R-Kive’ is a new 3-CD, 37-track set that documents the band’s history in the most comprehensive way yet. Compiled by the band themselves via a process of collaboration and elimination, ‘R-Kive’ takes an in-depth, chronological journey through the catalogue and - for the first time ever for a Genesis collection - includes three personally chosen selections from the solo careers of Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, and Mike Rutherford / Mike + The Mechanics."

Damnit Unhappy.


Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:12
Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

Originally posted by Quirky Turkey Quirky Turkey wrote:

Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Seriously, I'm going to be so irritatied if this is another compilation release.



And...........it's a compilation release. Dammit.

"Spanning an incredible 42 years, ‘R-Kive’ is a new 3-CD, 37-track set that documents the band’s history in the most comprehensive way yet. Compiled by the band themselves via a process of collaboration and elimination, ‘R-Kive’ takes an in-depth, chronological journey through the catalogue and - for the first time ever for a Genesis collection - includes three personally chosen selections from the solo careers of Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, and Mike Rutherford / Mike + The Mechanics."

Damnit Unhappy.
 
Dammit . . .

Somewhere Jonathan King is smiling.
 
(Isn't R-Kive a rapper?)


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Posted By: LakeGlade12
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:14
A 37 track 3 disc  album that covers their whole career? Where have I heard that before...oh yes the Platinum Collection! Except that has 40 songs to cover their career including all their hits and main Prog epics. 

So what's the difference? The new one contains the pop numbers of the band's solo stuff...and that's it. 

No thanks. If you want a in depth best of Genesis album then R-Kive is not it. So its really a waste of everyone's time.Angry  


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:22
The fans of their Prog period already have all their discography so will not buy it. So only their Pop fans will buy it, who can not stand the Prog songs and will never play them. I don't know why they insist in putting out a product that will please nobody...


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:27
That was almost as exciting as socks for Christmas.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:30
Selling feathers to ducks.
'Come on boyo - you know you like this blue one and sure it looks exactly like the red one you've got up your rump....but it's blue...y'know?'


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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:30
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

That was almost as exciting as socks for Christmas.
Not to be contrary, but I kind of like getting socks.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:31
Uhmmm socks



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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:47
WELL LA-DE-FRICKIN-DA!!




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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 08:58
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Uhmmm socks

Zoikes!

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 09:02
^Hey, how did David get a picture of me?   

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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 09:13
BOOO !!! They announced exciting news. And a new compilation is not exciting news. It's torture to all Genesis fans who bought all the albums. Phil Collins recently announced that he would back on stage. Sure those are very small performances compared to his heyday, but he's a little active. As for the other members, they are all active in their own rights. Peter Gabriel's voice is still strong, Steve Hackett is doing a tour honouring Genesis, Tony Banks is doing classical stuff and Mike is with Mike and the Mechanics. Why not doing something while they are all still alive. Jesus Christ.


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 09:39
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

That was almost as exciting as socks for Christmas.

LOL

Yeah and it would take a Christmas miracle to get these guys back on a stage together.Unhappy But it's till gonna be on my christmas list Santa!Star


Posted By: Galactic Melt
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:05
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

That was almost as exciting as socks for Christmas.


The socks would get more usage.


Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:10
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

That was almost as exciting as socks for Christmas.


LOLClap


Posted By: Vic333
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:37
Even though no one on this forum has any reason to pick up this release, in my younger years I've discovered bands because of some re-hashed  re-issues or compilations. So, I can only hope that this will be the opportunity for some quirky 15 year old to stumble across some amazing sh*t he would otherwise never even hear about. 


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:43
You're probably right. 
Let's cross our fingers for the prospect of yet a new generation of youngsters roaming the PA airwaves making tons of new Genesis polls like it was going out of fashion (which they funnily never seem to do).


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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:48
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Unless this compilation has "The Movement" on it, or something as interesting all I can say is
It looks like "The Movement" was piled on the fans.

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:53
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 12:04
I saw Phil Collins on that TV program "Later With Jools Holland", and he looked about done. If he's on board for a new album, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it'll be good, naturally. And don't bring in Ray Wilson!


Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 12:06
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Is that all there is? More than ever I feel tempted to give a one star rating in advance (of course accompanied by a blind (p)review to put in some more weight): Poor, only for completionists.
I quit Disapprove.

Thanks.


Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 13:43
"Cha-ching!"  Cashing in again.  This is why people steal music off the internet.  Because music distribution keeps repackaging and nothing new gets done.   Example:  Let's put together stuff people already have and then drop a track or 3 in there that people may not have.   THIS is why people steal music.  I dont know whether to blame the artist or the music "industry".

As far as Genesis goes, quit dicking us around.  Either perform (at a reasonable price) or make new music or quit.   But all this crap about reunions and who doesn't get along with who... It's turning me off to one of my most favorite bands.  If you are going to make music... MAKE MUSIC.. if not, shut up and disappear with honor.  This recycling and repackaging is like a middle finger to loyal fans that have been following you for years.   SHAME SHAME SHAME.  I find this whole venture REPULSIVE.


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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 14:26
Yeah, I have to admit, its pretty disappointing.  I wish I hadn't seen this thread yesterday to get my hopes up. Ouch

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Posted By: Snowbound1997
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 19:27
I feel betrayed. The only way they can redeem my respect at this point is if they do an accompanying tour with it. If they hadn't hyped it up and had just announced the compilation without the preceding announcement with the new logo, i wouldn't have been mad at all, just slightly annoyed. But they damn well KNOW fans are craving a new album, and this just feels like a cruel joke. 

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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 19:42
i personally don't mind this actually, but i understand your disappointment for this. a reunion would've been cool.

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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 21:04
The best Genesis albums have already been made. Chances this legendary prog band would get back together and record a new album is VERY unlikely. Let's face they're just beating a dead horse. As for the compilation album, who cares? I sure don't. I already own their best albums and I don't need something compiled from someone sitting behind a desk telling me this is 'quintessential' Genesis. Let's all just applaud the band for their past successes and move along.

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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 21:04
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


It's just the ordinary 'watering-down' of the language - be that the English or the Danish. Believe you me, we get it here too. It's everywhere I look. It's why words like 'super' and 'extra-ordinary' are flung around so often. 
Then again, 'Mildly Interesting Genesis News' isn't exactly going to shake your tree... 


Yes, but they didn't have to try and create expectation saying that they would have exciting news the next day. They could just have given the news and be done with it. If you announce something like exciting news, and they don't end up being so, well they will end up dissapointing the people who's attention they wanted to atract. Now, about the news of the compilation itself, I would only find it interesting if they included the whole Dodo song and if they restored the original plan of doing the Duke suite (I guess it would be fairly easy to edit the songs in such a way). Perhaps throw in a few unreleased tracks and that's it.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 22:18
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

The best Genesis albums have already been made. Chances this legendary prog band would get back together and record a new album is VERY unlikely. Let's face they're just beating a dead horse. As for the compilation album, who cares? I sure don't. I already own their best albums and I don't need something compiled from someone sitting behind a desk telling me this is 'quintessential' Genesis. Let's all just applaud the band for their past successes and move along.

You are probably right--BUT I think you could argue that if any super group could possibly still produce a great album it might be the original line-up or at least the Trick line up because Banks and Hackett in particular are still coming up with some great melodies.


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 22 2014 at 23:19
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

The best Genesis albums have already been made. Chances this legendary prog band would get back together and record a new album is VERY unlikely. Let's face they're just beating a dead horse. As for the compilation album, who cares? I sure don't. I already own their best albums and I don't need something compiled from someone sitting behind a desk telling me this is 'quintessential' Genesis. Let's all just applaud the band for their past successes and move along.

You are probably right--BUT I think you could argue that if any super group could possibly still produce a great album it might be the original line-up or at least the Trick line up because Banks and Hackett in particular are still coming up with some great melodies.

I would love more than anybody for a Gabriel, Banks, Hackett, Rutherford, and Collins reunion album, but I don't think this will happen nor do I think the Trick line-up will happen. It's not really a question of who is capable of coming up with new material, but rather if all members involved are on the same page and really want to start writing again, which, again, is very unlikely.


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 03:40
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

 
I would love more than anybody for a Gabriel, Banks, Hackett, Rutherford, and Collins reunion album, but I don't think this will happen nor do I think the Trick line-up will happen. It's not really a question of who is capable of coming up with new material, but rather if all members involved are on the same page and really want to start writing again, which, again, is very unlikely.
The thing is, unlike some others of the dinosaurs who were left broke and can really use the profits of a reunion, both the Genesis Trio and Peter Gabriel have made a lot of money anyway (Hackett probably less but I guess he can still pay his bills), so the financial pressure for a reunion is not there in this case.

What I really do not get is why the hell do you make a new logo for a compilation album?????? a compilation is a look at the past, it's completely stupid to label a compilation with a brand new logo Confused


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 09:26
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

 
I would love more than anybody for a Gabriel, Banks, Hackett, Rutherford, and Collins reunion album, but I don't think this will happen nor do I think the Trick line-up will happen. It's not really a question of who is capable of coming up with new material, but rather if all members involved are on the same page and really want to start writing again, which, again, is very unlikely.
The thing is, unlike some others of the dinosaurs who were left broke and can really use the profits of a reunion, both the Genesis Trio and Peter Gabriel have made a lot of money anyway (Hackett probably less but I guess he can still pay his bills), so the financial pressure for a reunion is not there in this case.

What I really do not get is why the hell do you make a new logo for a compilation album?????? a compilation is a look at the past, it's completely stupid to label a compilation with a brand new logo Confused

Well, no, the Genesis members have plenty of money, but that's not really my point. My point is that an album of new material is unlikely because all of the members aren't on the same page. Gabriel has also mentioned before that he's not interested in writing music under the badge of Genesis anymore. Also, Banks said he wouldn't be involved in a reunion unless Gabriel was going to be involved.


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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov


Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 09:37
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

 
I would love more than anybody for a Gabriel, Banks, Hackett, Rutherford, and Collins reunion album, but I don't think this will happen nor do I think the Trick line-up will happen. It's not really a question of who is capable of coming up with new material, but rather if all members involved are on the same page and really want to start writing again, which, again, is very unlikely.
The thing is, unlike some others of the dinosaurs who were left broke and can really use the profits of a reunion, both the Genesis Trio and Peter Gabriel have made a lot of money anyway (Hackett probably less but I guess he can still pay his bills), so the financial pressure for a reunion is not there in this case.

What I really do not get is why the hell do you make a new logo for a compilation album?????? a compilation is a look at the past, it's completely stupid to label a compilation with a brand new logo Confused

Well, no, the Genesis members have plenty of money, but that's not really my point. My point is that an album of new material is unlikely because all of the members aren't on the same page. Gabriel has also mentioned before that he's not interested in writing music under the badge of Genesis anymore. Also, Banks said he wouldn't be involved in a reunion unless Gabriel was going to be involved.

Nailed it.


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 10:50
Gabriel has said many times the only thing he'd be sorta interested in doing is Lamb Live and possibly Supper's Ready, both pieces he's proud of and thinks about--- but Hackett has said a live show with Peter will never happen--and Banks has said many times Hackett would only be involved if Gabriel was involved---which pisses me off as the Seconds Out line up is just as interesting to me as the line up with Gabriel--and we all know Hackett would love to do it. So yeah, ---not going to happen.


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 19:00
I bought tickets for the new Genesis Tour...gonna be sweet!



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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 22:21
Well, then at least there could be a joint tour of Hackett, Collins and Rutherford. Perhaps even Anthony Phillips


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 22:39
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Gabriel has said many times the only thing he'd be sorta interested in doing is Lamb Live and possibly Supper's Ready, both pieces he's proud of and thinks about--- but Hackett has said a live show with Peter will never happen--and Banks has said many times Hackett would only be involved if Gabriel was involved---which pisses me off as the Seconds Out line up is just as interesting to me as the line up with Gabriel--and we all know Hackett would love to do it. So yeah, ---not going to happen.

This is interesting considering that Banks considers Wind & Wuthering to be one of the band's best efforts and Gabriel was nowhere in sight around this time.


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“Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 22:43
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Gabriel has said many times the only thing he'd be sorta interested in doing is Lamb Live and possibly Supper's Ready, both pieces he's proud of and thinks about--- but Hackett has said a live show with Peter will never happen--and Banks has said many times Hackett would only be involved if Gabriel was involved---which pisses me off as the Seconds Out line up is just as interesting to me as the line up with Gabriel--and we all know Hackett would love to do it. So yeah, ---not going to happen.

This is interesting considering that Banks considers Wind & Wuthering to be one of the band's best efforts and Gabriel was nowhere in sight around this time.

Yes that is true---about W&W--so you would think---but many times Banks seems to shut out that period as the three piece certainly did have over the top success without Hackett.


Posted By: blueguitarman
Date Posted: August 30 2014 at 15:47
Although a new logo and a compilation alubm from the Gen men is no news at all, there is exciting news anyway in the world of Genesis. Robert Ellis who photographef the band starting in 1972 will be releasing a new book about The Lamb. You can go to REPFOTO and check out some samples. It is almost available for pre-order.


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: August 30 2014 at 16:04
Great track selection and I like the fact that they include solo songs but why no Anthony Phillips? Confused



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