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KingCrimson250
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Topic: Trespass - Genesis Posted: June 13 2010 at 16:37 |
Yeah, he's right. I'm not sure why everyone always thinks it's under-rated, it's actually quite well-known and appreciated in both prog and Genesis circles.
I think that objectively speaking it's one of their weaker albums but that's part of it's charm. I mean weaker in the sense that the playing can be a bit sloppy and that the more sprawling songs (Looking for Someone and Stagnation) have got some very rough transitions. That being said, there's a lot of raw energy and ambition on the album - you get the impression that they don't totally know what they're doing, but they're putting their hearts into it and having a blast, and the end result is some pretty amazing music.
I could live without Dusk and Visions of Angels but the rest of the LP is gold for me - it manages to be a sign of greater things to come, while still having it's own unique charm that the band would never really replicate.
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Posted: June 13 2010 at 15:59 |
WatcherOfTheSkies88 wrote:
Why do people usually think badly of the album "Trespass" by Genesis? I think it's got some pretty strong tunes. Of course, there's their first undisputed classic in "The Knife", but "Looking for Someone" and "White Mountain" are pretty sweet as well. "Visions of Angels" is pretty good too. I know the album isn't as good as the next 4 that came after it, but it's still a really good album, IMO.
| People don't usually think badly of the album Trespass. It's in the symphonic top 20 here (along with all the rest of Gabriel's Genesis save the non-prog debut).
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Posted: June 13 2010 at 15:56 |
CinemaZebra wrote:
halabalushindigus wrote:
I always thought the singer on Trick was Phil Gabriel | WHOA, Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel may be a bit strange but they would never go gay for each other, I know that much.
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CyberDiablo
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Posted: June 13 2010 at 15:46 |
Tresspass is a very good album, indeed. But why don't you admit Selling England by Pound suck? (Yay! 100th post!)
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Posted: June 13 2010 at 15:38 |
If you can stick a vinyl like " Trespass" on the old turntable and still feel a shiver of excitement 40 years after first playing it then it is your "own personal classic" regardless of what others feel about it. After "Foxtrot" the innocent magic somehow disappeared. How often does that happen when the gut artistry gets supplanted with commercial targets?
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 23:38 |
CinemaZebra wrote:
halabalushindigus wrote:
I always thought the singer on Trick was Phil Gabriel | WHOA, Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel may be a bit strange but they would never go gay for each other, I know that much.
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Whoa my mind just went CinemaZebra for a second. I was a little boy when I first "tricked" and didn't know any better
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 23:09 |
It's not that people don't really like it. It's just an overlooked album due to the absolute classics that follow it.
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 23:05 |
halabalushindigus wrote:
I always thought the singer on Trick was Phil Gabriel |
WHOA, Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel may be a bit strange but they would never go gay for each other, I know that much.
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progman2010
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 19:09 |
How can you not like this album
Visions of Angels, Stagnation, Dusk, Looking for someone, The knife are all pretty good songs. Nursery only has about 2 songs as good as these. Foxtrot and Trespass are the 2 Genesis albums i play to friends the most. The lamb and Selling England are played in moderation but I'm a bit embarrased by Gabriel at times
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 14:41 |
I always thought the singer on Trick was Phil Gabriel
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 14:35 |
I like the second half, but the first (especially the opener, ironically) half makes me fall asleep almost every time. If you ask me, the only time Genesis have really done anything acceptable without Gabriel is with Trick of the Tail. (and that's partly because they copied his style on that album)
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 14:34 |
I'm on my way to Trespass, you early,early Genesis freaks
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 14:11 |
Trespass is a wonderful album for my tastes. I'd rank The Knife near the bottom of all the tracks. Stagnation and Visions Of Angels at the top.
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 06:31 |
A good album but no masterpiece whereas the other Gbariel era albums are, or at least close to it.
Trespass is very raw around the edge and painfull y pastoral, th i fyou like thayt type of music theres your album. The KNife is brilliant but the rest is clutching at straws (another good album btw)
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 04:57 |
Trespass is a wonderful album, Stagnation is an epic piece of music, and The Knife is overflowing with energy and the kind of agression they would fine tune in later albums. Visions of Angels is simply divine, and it's just an all around great album!
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 03:50 |
I'm also a big fan of Trespass, Visions of Angels is superb, as is The Knife. Actuallly the whole album is very good, and Ant's guitar makes it a different beast from the later Gabriel era Genesis. The leap that the band made between Genesis to Revelation and Trespass was massive, and Trespass is the gateway album for all the progess made later. Forget GTR, it all started here!
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Posted: June 12 2010 at 02:37 |
Trespass was my first introduction to early Genesis and I will always hold this album with high regard, all the tracks enjoyable and have their 'goose bump' moments, Visions Of Angels is one my favorite's and The Knife is just superb, a good way to end the album considering all previous songs are rather dreamy and subdued in their own way.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: April 21 2010 at 20:39 |
It's hard for me to compare Trespass to the other Genesis albums. Nursery Cryme to Selling England all have a recognisably similar sound, but like The Lamb, there's something about Trespass that is just special.
Top moment for me is definitely White Mountain, with the Knife a close second ... but I wouldn't underrate any of the songs on this album.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 21 2010 at 18:44 |
I think it's the only Genesis album where parts some of the songs gave me goosebumps.
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tamijo
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Posted: April 21 2010 at 03:30 |
Its Gabriel, Its Great, as allways
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