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progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
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I was in that place for a while... Not that its a bad thing ![]() But E-Dub gave me the best advice for listening to that album/ enjoying it ever! Basically, think about it as a real story - Its a real thing that happened, and although a fictitious story, the ending is the same... I also reccomend "Listening to it in the dark with the lights off" as the DVD reccomends ![]() Not trying to push it on you, hope it doesn't seem that way - Just trying to help you enjoy it ![]() -Joel |
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tamijo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
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Do love the Fish Era, all of it.
Got the Brave on CD, but never grew on me
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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kenmartree ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 14 2007 Location: oregon Status: Offline Points: 356 |
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I still need Radiation but I have everything else. I wanted to make it to Montreal but $$$$$. I live in Oregon
I would be it to Vegas, it''s a lot closer. Kenmar
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E-Dub ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
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Awesome story. Very cool that you've rediscovered this amazing band.
There's talk of their North American convention being held in Las Vegas. Hope you can make it. I attended the Montreal convention in April and was blown away. Have you picked up all of their stuff subsequent to Holidays then? E |
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kenmartree ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 14 2007 Location: oregon Status: Offline Points: 356 |
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Fellow Marillion Fans, I've been away from the forum for quite some time and I return to find this great thread! Rather than jump into the conversation, I'll just tell about how I came to love Marillion. I have told part of this story in other threads, but ... I guess the year was 1983 when I walked into my local record shop a nd saw Script.. on the front display rack with a sign that said "early Genesis type sound". Mind I'm not here to debate whether Fish is more infuenced by Hammill or Gabe, that 's what the sign said and I bought the record.
Now none of my friend know about Marillion at this time and most of my friends where Gabe era Genesis fans so I had my fun with them by putting Script on an unlabelled tape and telling them it was an unreleased demo from between Nursrey Crime and Foxtrot! Yes I know listening to it now 25 years later it seems ridiculous that they could have fallen for it but they did!
So I created a number of Marillion fans back in the 80s and drove up to LA from san diego to see the Fugazi tour. A great show but of course in that time before the information age we only knew what was written on the album liner notes, not much. I followed Marillion until Holidays in Eden and then lost track as I didn't care for Holidays in Eden much.
Then about 3 years ago a buddy of mine from colleage days who knew I liked Marillion told me that they had dumped the record companies to go it themselves on the internet. I googled progressive rock, found PA and read reviews of the many albums they hed released since and decieded to get Marbles. Good call eh!
![]() Imagine getting to collect over a decade's worth of Marillion albums in a couple of monthes
![]() Now I mush admit if you ask me my all time favorite band it would still be Genesis c PG, but Marillion would be tied for second with a few other bands, I love them, and have even grown to like a few songs on Holidays though I still feel it's near the bottem of their albums.
Sadly my days of having friend with similar musical tastes are long gone. My wife likes Marillion and her fave song is When I met God, which would be very high on my list as well. But most people I know have know idea who they are, so I turn to you fine people to express my love of this timeless band.
More another day.... Kenmar
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13878 |
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Done - essential purchase for any Marillion fan, and yes Eric, she is VERY easy on the eye ![]() |
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progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
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I understand and appreciate the context, and I guess that would be why so many rate it so highly, but I still think there are only 3 genuinely excellent tracks on the album. -Joel |
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E-Dub ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
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I can totally appreciate what Script meant to progressive music. When you put it like that, I do seem a bit hasty. It's still a disc I can't quite get into, but you have forced me to look at it from another point-of-view. E |
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E-Dub ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
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Hey, Scott. I've been tempted to get the new disc, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. They opened up during #2 of the Marillion convention and were pretty good. The lead singer was mesmerizing...and EASY on the eyes, too. E |
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66784 |
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I was hoping to get a dialogue going regarding Steve Rothery's side project band The Wishing Tree's new album Ostara. Any interest amongst Marillion fans? If so, please check out this neglected thread.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59948
Thank you,
Scott
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akamaisondufromage ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 16 2009 Location: Blighty Status: Offline Points: 6797 |
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I very much agree with Lazland on the early Fish incarnation of Marillion. I was a fan (of the worst kind) and I went tosee them twice in 1982. Once in a tiny club called the 'Sound Cellar' in Cambridge with probably about 40 other people. No real stage and it was fantastic to see Fish et all up so close. It was really prog with a bit of attitude and humour in the mix.
Then saw them later the same year at the Limit in Sheffield with a couple of hundred I guess and the atmosphere was great and they played Grendel this time which I was hoping for. When we were waiting for the band to go on I found I was standing right next to Fish who was chatting with another fan I doubt if he did that for much longer. Really nice guy though.
My entire collection is shown below. Didn't even buy the album I don't think it did them justice. Listening to the live versions was always preferable to me.
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13878 |
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Whoever says that H lacks emotion really should check themselves into their nearest doctor's surgery. That passage, and the resulting guitar solo, never ever fail to move me. The same is true of Neverland, a track I feel is unparalleled in terms of sheer emotion. |
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13878 |
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Further to this, and Eric's comments, I think that people have to remember the context in which the album, and the whole new 2nd wave of prog, came about in the 80's. The so called golden era of prog was over. Genesis had moved on to the phase which most people on this forum, but not me, utterly hated, Yes were all over the place, King Crimson was still moribund, ELP no more. I could go on, but you get my point. There was a real danger that those of us who loved 70's prog would forever be harking back to a long lost era, with nothing to replace it. Then along comes this band, who quite deliberately made themselves sound like Gabriel ear Genesis, with an extremely charismatic face painted frontman, who told stories in both the lyrics and stage shows, and actually made a virtue of playing songs longer than three minutes. They also very succinctly echoed the trials, fears, and realities of modern life to people such as me in their late teens/early twenties, and also made a point of integrating some of the punk mentality into their ethos. It was magical, and SFAJT epitomises that approach perfectly. It was also great musically. Chelsea Monday, Forgotten Sons, and the title track still sound fantastic, even after all these years. I had The Web on last night, and really enjoyed it. |
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progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
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^^
Definitely overrated, but still, those 3 tracks are masterpieces. Tonight I'm going to listen to BRAVE... Loud, with the lights off! -Joel |
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E-Dub ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
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^^Overrated, in my opinion. Never could quite get into it, either.
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progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
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Good story! On the note os SFAJ'sT, I really didn't think it was that great. Other than the Title track, Garden Party and Forgotten Sons, I couldn't really get into it. -Joel |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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If they're is a bomb about to dropped on Marillion appreciation, I am out of here.
![]() Here's my Marillion story and I better make it quick: Started off with Script, lost touch, reacquainted with Afraid, was not afraid of Brave (enjoyed it), kept following and getting their new albums ever since. I must admit I am a bit of a lukewater fan these days. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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E-Dub ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
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Not a new statement. I've heard a ton of people say it's their favorite. Can't say that I blame them.
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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Marbles > Brave
How bout them apples? |
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E-Dub ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
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Listened to Radiation today: grossly underrated album.
I also had a major goosebump moment yesterday while listening to Marbles. The part right before the guitar solo on "Fantastic Place" when h observes that he "sees the island behind your tired, troubled eyes" and it goes right into the guitar solo. Chokes me up every time. E |
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