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Poll Question: Which do you prefer to collect? and why?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2013 at 11:38
Well I grew up with vinyl and have no desire to collect any more.   Digital just doesn't cut it for me.  I need a hard copy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2013 at 10:56
CDs for me. I would love to hear the sound of a good ole' vinyl record, but I don't have a record player unfortunately and they are really expensive (have a couple of vinyls that I can't play :'( ), and there's nothing tangible or special about just a digital copy (which I only get if there's no other choice or if i'm especially low on money). With a CD, I get the physical product and the digital copy to put on the computer and ipod all at once, and if something happens to my computer in which my music gets deleted, I can simply re-add it back up just like that. It's the best of both worlds as far as I'm concerned. 300+ CDs and counting. ;)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:30
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Won't break the bank.LOL



 

No, it won't.

 

A Rega P1 costs around £300. It sounds very good. A Project Essential about £200; not quite as good as the Rega, but still much more than acceptable.

 

Should you be, like me, very old, semi-retired and fortunate enough to have earned/inherited sufficient money to buy more or less what I want, you can pay a lot more, but good turntables are within the reach of almost anyone. 

 

 


That sounds really reasonable. I think one day I should buy something like this. I just would have to hear it of course first. ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:28
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Question. Is a 180gram vinyl record the highest quality of vinyl you can get? Is it the equivalent to say, an SACD format? Just curious. Also. Quality Turn Tables are so expensive and vinyl records are not cheap at all. I could never by all my favourites on Vinyl. Too much $$. If I were rich I'd do it because it would be nice to have the latest and greatest in both audio formats analogue and Digital. I have great Digital HD equipment and I can't immagine anything sounding better than that, but it all depends on what you like. Analogue fanatics ususally say the timbre levels in the instruments are heightened more than any other sound format. Digital heads say you get the best sound dynamics and most refined midrange that rally does create the feeling of a live sound stage. I tend to agree with this one cause I've experienced the digital end of sound properly. Be great to hear a really beefed up Analogue system with a top notch warn tube amp. :)

 "Quality Turn Tables are so expensive".

 

They can be, but some of the Project and Rega models give very acceptable sound and won't break the bank.

 

"Question. Is a 180gram vinyl record the highest quality of vinyl you can get?"

 

Certainly, 180g vinyl gives a more solid sound than ordinary mass albums, largely due to the reduction of resonances, which is why I usually buy them. I'm not entirely sure of the merits of virgin vinyl, though.

 

"Be great to hear a really beefed up Analogue system with a top notch warn tube amp."

 

Despite being a huge fan of analogue, tube amps don't do it for me. I use a transistor amp for transient speed and detail. If you're ever in the UK and happen to be coming near York, drop me a private message and I'd be happy to demo just how good an analogue system £10k can buy.


How incredibly kind of you. Yeah. 10k that's around how much I've spent on my digital toys.
It is really worth it though. Anyway, I'll definitely keep your offer in mind. Be great to hear the differences analogue truly capture. Thanks Herc!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 16:28
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Won't break the bank.LOL
 
No, it won't.
 
A Rega P1 costs around £300. It sounds very good. A Project Essential about £200; not quite as good as the Rega, but still much more than acceptable.
 
Should you be, like me, very old, semi-retired and fortunate enough to have earned/inherited sufficient money to buy more or less what I want, you can pay a lot more, but good turntables are within the reach of almost anyone. 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 16:14
Anyone remember these?  I can rember getting stuff like Tony DeFranco and the Archies on cereal boxes and in magazines.  Terrible recording quality and they usually tracked poorly too, but it was a cheap way to distribute songs...
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 16:05
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Question. Is a 180gram vinyl record the highest quality of vinyl you can get?

 
There are some manufacturers who make 200gram vinyl records, but they tend to be more expensive than they're worth IMHO.  They don't sound any better but supposedly are less susceptible to warping.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 13:55
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 13:51
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Question. Is a 180gram vinyl record the highest quality of vinyl you can get?

Is it the equivalent to say, an SACD format? Just curious.
Also. Quality Turn Tables are so expensive and vinyl records are not cheap at all.
I could never by all my favourites on Vinyl. Too much $$. If I were rich I'd do it because it would be nice to have the latest and greatest in both audio formats analogue and Digital. I have great Digital HD equipment and I can't immagine anything sounding better than that, but it all depends on what you like.

Analogue fanatics ususally say the timbre levels in the instruments are heightened more than any other sound format.
Digital heads say you get the best sound dynamics and most refined midrange that rally does create the feeling of a live sound stage. I tend to agree with this one cause I've experienced the digital end of sound properly.
Be great to hear a really beefed up Analogue system with a top notch warn tube amp.
:)
 "Quality Turn Tables are so expensive".
 
They can be, but some of the Project and Rega models give very acceptable sound and won't break the bank.
 
"Question. Is a 180gram vinyl record the highest quality of vinyl you can get?"
 
Certainly, 180g vinyl gives a more solid sound than ordinary mass albums, largely due to the reduction of resonances, which is why I usually buy them. I'm not entirely sure of the merits of virgin vinyl, though.

 
"Be great to hear a really beefed up Analogue system with a top notch warn tube amp."
 
Despite being a huge fan of analogue, tube amps don't do it for me. I use a transistor amp for transient speed and detail. If you're ever in the UK and happen to be coming near York, drop me a private message and I'd be happy to demo just how good an analogue system £10k can buy.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:51
Question. Is a 180gram vinyl record the highest quality of vinyl you can get?

Is it the equivalent to say, an SACD format? Just curious.
Also. Quality Turn Tables are so expensive and vinyl records are not cheap at all.
I could never by all my favourites on Vinyl. Too much $$. If I were rich I'd do it because it would be nice to have the latest and greatest in both audio formats analogue and Digital. I have great Digital HD equipment and I can't immagine anything sounding better than that, but it all depends on what you like.

Analogue fanatics ususally say the timbre levels in the instruments are heightened more than any other sound format.
Digital heads say you get the best sound dynamics and most refined midrange that rally does create the feeling of a live sound stage. I tend to agree with this one cause I've experienced the digital end of sound properly.
Be great to hear a really beefed up Analogue system with a top notch warn tube amp.
:)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:18
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The tapes also jammed in the players a lot, which meant you had to carry around scotch tape and a razor blade to splice them back together, and a flat-headed screwdriver to open the tape case. 
Yeah, we never had an 8-track but I used tons of scotch tape with cassettes too! (and before that with the reel tapes of my dad). What times... and now some complain that they don't like CD sound quality LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:06
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Do some math and you can figure out where the fadeout and 'ker-chunk' sounds are on "Gates of Delirium" and "Sound Chaser". 
LOL At times it seemed like it wasn't so much arbitrary as down-right vindictive. LOL

Ya, I remember my Selling England by the Pound 8-track had a fadeout/track change right before the "They call me the Reverend..." section of Epping forest...used to drive me nuts Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 07:33
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Do some math and you can figure out where the fadeout and 'ker-chunk' sounds are on "Gates of Delirium" and "Sound Chaser". 
LOL At times it seemed like it wasn't so much arbitrary as down-right vindictive. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2013 at 07:09
Do some math and you can figure out where the fadeout and 'ker-chunk' sounds are on "Gates of Delirium" and "Sound Chaser".  Not to mention the sound quality was fairly bland and there was lots of tape hiss. 
 
 
 
8-tracks were mostly for cars before cassettes became available and affordable.  I had three suitcase-sized boxes full of those damn things laying on my car's back seat.  The tapes also jammed in the players a lot, which meant you had to carry around scotch tape and a razor blade to splice them back together, and a flat-headed screwdriver to open the tape case.  These were never a good way to listen to music. Geek
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 12:21
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Completely besides the point, but I'd love to hear how an 8 track sounds. Is the sound close to that of a cassette?
about the same, but with *clunk* *whrrrr* *clunk* every 8 minutes.
 
Really not an enjoyable way to listen to a 20 minute prog epic.


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Co-incidentally, one of the first albums I heard on 8-track was Tubular Bells (the other was Tea For The Tillerman)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 12:01
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Completely besides the point, but I'd love to hear how an 8 track sounds. Is the sound close to that of a cassette?
about the same, but with *clunk* *whrrrr* *clunk* every 8 minutes.
 
Really not an enjoyable way to listen to a 20 minute prog epic.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 11:58
A lot of music at home in my early childhood was on reel to reel tape recorder-player.
I can't remember much about the quality though, I guess I had little to compare to but the radio and that vintage mono 'suitcase' vinyl player with a speaker in its lid. But I seem to remember that it allowed quite long recording time, maybe 2 LP's per tape reel? (not sure at all, just trying to remember)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 06:01
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Completely besides the point, but I'd love to hear how an 8 track sounds. Is the sound close to that of a cassette?
about the same, but with *clunk* *whrrrr* *clunk* every 8 minutes.
 
Really not an enjoyable way to listen to a 20 minute prog epic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 05:52
Completely besides the point, but I'd love to hear how an 8 track sounds. Is the sound close to that of a cassette?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 03:32
Originally posted by Roj Roj wrote:

Sorry, as someone who grew up with vinyl I'm voting CD without question.  Whilst I appreciate the aesthetics of vinyl, the superior artwork and the nostalgia angle, I just cannot bear the thought of scratched albums, jumping stylus etc.

The sound may be superior if you're prepared to pay an absolute sh*tload of money for a top notch turntable and stylus, but I don't have that sort of cash and will stick with CDs thanks.

Digital is a medium I'll use to buy out of print or very expensive cds, also for artists who make little effort with their cover art so you're missing nothing in not having the physical product (numerous underground electronic artists come to mind).  I recently got Schulze's Mirage on mp3 - have you seen how much that is going for on cd?


I also grew up with vinyl. True, analog became very expensive and I don't miss having to take back scratchy or warped vinyl numerous times. But I do miss the big album cover art, fold outs, posters, etc.

Funny, I used to have Genesis 'Selling England By The Pound' on cassette!
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