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Roj
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 03:23 |
Sorry, as someone who grew up with vinyl I'm voting CD without question. Whilst I appreciate the aesthetics of vinyl, the superior artwork and the nostalgia angle, I just cannot bear the thought of scratched albums, jumping stylus etc.
The sound may be superior if you're prepared to pay an absolute sh*tload of money for a top notch turntable and stylus, but I don't have that sort of cash and will stick with CDs thanks.
Digital is a medium I'll use to buy out of print or very expensive cds, also for artists who make little effort with their cover art so you're missing nothing in not having the physical product (numerous underground electronic artists come to mind). I recently got Schulze's Mirage on mp3 - have you seen how much that is going for on cd?
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zeqexes
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Posted: June 18 2013 at 01:59 |
I totally agree with you. Playing vinyl is great because it feels authentic, but iPods provide a convenient way to enjoy music.
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 17:20 |
Hercules:
"No - I want "Glad Day" by William Blake, which is the front cover of Grave New World. But the Buddhist artwork on the rest of the album cover and lyric booklet is equally magnificent.
The point is, the CD artwork is just useless by comparison."
I agree the artwork is great so I pull out the vinyl to gaze upon while I listen to the CD.
Nuff said,,?
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 16:43 |
Stool Man wrote:
worst is ipod. Having one small gadget with 10,000 tracks is convenient, is it? |
Yes, yes it is.
Stool Man wrote:
How long will it take to listen to all that? And who listens to music for convenience anyway? |
So if I'm driving in my car, or sitting on a train, or sitting on the beach and fancy listening to any one of 1000 albums I can select it and listen to it. Damn that sound like it would be nice. Good luck playing your vinyl in any of those situations. Listening to music doesn't have to be an event, it can just be easy & fun.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 16:24 |
progbethyname wrote:
Hercules wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Anyone got Grave New World on vinyl?
The music is brilliant but the artwork on the cover and lyric booklet are utterly sublime.
Getting it on CD would be like eating beef wellington out of a newspaper. | Do you mean BRAVE new world by Iron Maiden? If so. That is one of my very favourite albums covers of all time. I'd be scared getting that on vinyl cause I don't how long it would take for me to stop starring at it. Lol probably look like a dirty perv checking out a 6 year-old. It's just so wrong. Lol I'm sticking with the unattractive cd version...the equivalent to my ex girlfriend. Lol |
Er no - I mean Grave New World by Strawbs. |
The naked guy posing like the di Vinci painting?
Na. You want this.
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No - I want "Glad Day" by William Blake, which is the front cover of Grave New World. But the Buddhist artwork on the rest of the album cover and lyric booklet is equally magnificent.
The point is, the CD artwork is just useless by comparison.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 15:51 |
Hercules wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Anyone got Grave New World on vinyl?
The music is brilliant but the artwork on the cover and lyric booklet are utterly sublime.
Getting it on CD would be like eating beef wellington out of a newspaper. | Do you mean BRAVE new world by Iron Maiden? If so. That is one of my very favourite albums covers of all time. I'd be scared getting that on vinyl cause I don't how long it would take for me to stop starring at it. Lol probably look like a dirty perv checking out a 6 year-old. It's just so wrong. Lol I'm sticking with the unattractive cd version...the equivalent to my ex girlfriend. Lol |
Er no - I mean Grave New World by Strawbs. |
The naked guy posing like the di Vinci painting?
Na. You want this.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 15:29 |
progbethyname wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Anyone got Grave New World on vinyl?
The music is brilliant but the artwork on the cover and lyric booklet are utterly sublime.
Getting it on CD would be like eating beef wellington out of a newspaper. |
Do you mean BRAVE new world by Iron Maiden?
If so. That is one of my very favourite albums covers of all time. I'd be scared getting that on vinyl cause I don't how long it would take for me to stop starring at it. Lol probably look like a dirty perv checking out a 6 year-old. It's just so wrong. Lol I'm sticking with the unattractive cd version...the equivalent to my ex girlfriend. Lol |
Er no - I mean Grave New World by Strawbs.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:30 |
Hercules wrote:
Anyone got Grave New World on vinyl?
The music is brilliant but the artwork on the cover and lyric booklet are utterly sublime.
Getting it on CD would be like eating beef wellington out of a newspaper. |
Do you mean BRAVE new world by Iron Maiden?
If so. That is one of my very favourite albums covers of all time. I'd be scared getting that on vinyl cause I don't how long it would take for me to stop starring at it. Lol probably look like a dirty perv checking out a 6 year-old.
It's just so wrong. Lol I'm sticking with the unattractive cd version...the equivalent to my ex girlfriend. Lol
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:27 |
Predictably I collect vinyl for the uh..... vinyl and the um.........cover art. I luv coloured vinyl especially the blue Levitation. Oh and I quite like my puke coloured Wayne County and the Electric Chairs album ...or is that Jayne County (I forget). I also like some single covers such as XTC making plans for Nigel came with a free game. I am collecting Barney Bubbles too (genious). I only buy vinyl if there is something unusual about it otherwise I buy CDs because I am old and senile and I like to have something physical so I don't lose it. I very occasionally download stuff that I can't find elsewhere.
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Hercules
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:24 |
Anyone got Grave New World on vinyl?
The music is brilliant but the artwork on the cover and lyric booklet are utterly sublime.
Getting it on CD would be like eating beef wellington out of a newspaper.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:24 |
Dean wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
CDs are ok, but the 25 square inches of artwork is rubbish when compared with the 144 square inches of the same artwork on LP - almost six times bigger. Who puts CD posters on the wall? And the best prog was made before there were any CDs. Reissues are sometimes iffy
worst is ipod. Having one small gadget with 10,000 tracks is convenient, is it? How long will it take to listen to all that? And who listens to music for convenience anyway? | Well I wouldn't say it's pure rubbish. That's a bit over the top, but vinyl music artwork presentation is better cause bigger, in this case, is better! :) |
Not just bigger, but with vinyl you had the album covers that were not just a flat sleeve, but artistic statements...The "Thick as a Brick" foldout newspaper, "A Passion Play" theater program, "Sticky Fingers" working zipper, "Brain Salad Surgery" foldout cover, "The World Became the World" island pull out, etc. Plus many included extra artwork large enough to put on your wall - the Pink Floyd DSOTM poster, ELP 12" x 12" band photos, Beatles White Album poster and band photos, and it goes on and on... | Ya mon! Centerfolds and gatefold portraits rule!!! |
Unless your eyes are 8" apart this is never going to work as a 12" cover, gatefold or not:
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I literally had to look severely cross-eyed in order to fulfill looking at the 10000 day 3d images. Lol. It was a struggle, but I got it to work...visually speaking. Had a nice headache after. :)
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Dean
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:07 |
progbethyname wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
CDs are ok, but the 25 square inches of artwork is rubbish when compared with the 144 square inches of the same artwork on LP - almost six times bigger. Who puts CD posters on the wall? And the best prog was made before there were any CDs. Reissues are sometimes iffy
worst is ipod. Having one small gadget with 10,000 tracks is convenient, is it? How long will it take to listen to all that? And who listens to music for convenience anyway? |
Well I wouldn't say it's pure rubbish. That's a bit over the top, but vinyl music artwork presentation is better cause bigger, in this case, is better! :)
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Not just bigger, but with vinyl you had the album covers that were not just a flat sleeve, but artistic statements...The "Thick as a Brick" foldout newspaper, "A Passion Play" theater program, "Sticky Fingers" working zipper, "Brain Salad Surgery" foldout cover, "The World Became the World" island pull out, etc. Plus many included extra artwork large enough to put on your wall - the Pink Floyd DSOTM poster, ELP 12" x 12" band photos, Beatles White Album poster and band photos, and it goes on and on... |
Ya mon! Centerfolds and gatefold portraits rule!!! |
Unless your eyes are 8" apart this is never going to work as a 12" cover, gatefold or not:
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:01 |
Hercules wrote:
Paradoxically, another advantage of vinyl is that it isn't so easy to skip tracks as on CDs, so you listen to the whole album as the band intended. |
Great point. Getting into a prog album ended up being a matter of digesting it in ~20 minute chunks. When I got "Brain Salad Surgery", I had to listen to "Still You Turn Me On" just to get to "Karn Evil 9"...Greg Lake was one sneaky producer 
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 13:58 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
CDs are ok, but the 25 square inches of artwork is rubbish when compared with the 144 square inches of the same artwork on LP - almost six times bigger. Who puts CD posters on the wall? And the best prog was made before there were any CDs. Reissues are sometimes iffy
worst is ipod. Having one small gadget with 10,000 tracks is convenient, is it? How long will it take to listen to all that? And who listens to music for convenience anyway? |
Well I wouldn't say it's pure rubbish. That's a bit over the top, but vinyl music artwork presentation is better cause bigger, in this case, is better! :)
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Not just bigger, but with vinyl you had the album covers that were not just a flat sleeve, but artistic statements...The "Thick as a Brick" foldout newspaper, "A Passion Play" theater program, "Sticky Fingers" working zipper, "Brain Salad Surgery" foldout cover, "The World Became the World" island pull out, etc. Plus many included extra artwork large enough to put on your wall - the Pink Floyd DSOTM poster, ELP 12" x 12" band photos, Beatles White Album poster and band photos, and it goes on and on... |
Ya mon! Centerfolds and gatefold portraits rule!!!
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 13:53 |
progbethyname wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
CDs are ok, but the 25 square inches of artwork is rubbish when compared with the 144 square inches of the same artwork on LP - almost six times bigger. Who puts CD posters on the wall? And the best prog was made before there were any CDs. Reissues are sometimes iffy
worst is ipod. Having one small gadget with 10,000 tracks is convenient, is it? How long will it take to listen to all that? And who listens to music for convenience anyway? |
Well I wouldn't say it's pure rubbish. That's a bit over the top, but vinyl music artwork presentation is better cause bigger, in this case, is better! :)
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Not just bigger, but with vinyl you had the album covers that were not just a flat sleeve, but artistic statements...The "Thick as a Brick" foldout newspaper, "A Passion Play" theater program, "Sticky Fingers" working zipper, "Brain Salad Surgery" foldout cover, "The World Became the World" island pull out, etc. Plus many included extra artwork large enough to put on your wall - the Pink Floyd DSOTM poster, ELP 12" x 12" band photos, Beatles White Album poster and band photos, and it goes on and on...
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Dean
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 13:38 |
Most images designed for 12" album covers look awful shrunk down to CD size.
Most images designed for CD size inlays look awful enlarged to a 12" album cover.
Most album cover images are not scalable. Design the image to fit the format - it's not rocket science.
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cemego
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 13:29 |
Vinyl is nice. CDs are worthless, and both are a pain in the ass to move. Give me a hard drive full of MP3s ripped from vinyl. Then you aren't lugging tons of THINGS around. Try moving your house or apartment with CDs, vinyl, and tape and let me know how your back feels. And you don't have to dust off an MP3 and jpg.
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progbethyname
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 13:24 |
Stool Man wrote:
CDs are ok, but the 25 square inches of artwork is rubbish when compared with the 144 square inches of the same artwork on LP - almost six times bigger. Who puts CD posters on the wall? And the best prog was made before there were any CDs. Reissues are sometimes iffy
worst is ipod. Having one small gadget with 10,000 tracks is convenient, is it? How long will it take to listen to all that? And who listens to music for convenience anyway? |
Well I wouldn't say it's pure rubbish. That's a bit over the top, but vinyl music artwork presentation is better cause bigger, in this case, is better! :)
Actually. A lot of my favourite albums aren't available on vinyl anyway, but over the last 5 years vinyl is making a huge comeback which is great to see. :)
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 13:20 |
Hercules wrote:
Paradoxically, another advantage of vinyl is that it isn't so easy to skip tracks as on CDs, so you listen to the whole album as the band intended. |
True!! You have to go by pure sense and guesstimating
Ahhh. That would piss me off!!
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 12:39 |
I have a huge cd collection but now I prefer to buy vinyls. I love to look at the artwork while the music is playing and I love the overall feeling.
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