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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

New reviews of Somali Yacht Club and Alex Carpani added to New Albums of 2022 page.

I do love a bit of Somali Yacht Club!

*heads off to Steve’s blog for a read*

[EDIT] both are good reviews (as can be expected, I guess), and I particularly liked how constructive you were with Carpani’s which I probably would have only been able to damn with faint praise! Not that I’ve listened to the new one, but anything of his I’ve heard in the past has indeed been perfectly good, but not set my world on fire.

Is this the first SYC album you’ve heard, or are you familiar with the previous two/too?



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New reviews of Somali Yacht Club and Alex Carpani added to New Albums of 2022 page.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2022 at 05:39
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Really interesting review, thanks Jared. Firstly, a real shame about the attendance. I don’t know how this is going to improve, and I suppose the stop/start nature of Karnataka probably doesn’t help a great deal.

One new album in the past 12 years, then going out on a fairly sizeable UK tour before a new album has been written, is going to have some effect. But then so will a one-off date on a Tuesday night and the insistence of having no support band... how many interesting newer UK prog/rock bands with growing followings would be keen for a 45 minute support slot with them?

I’ll see if I can find any footage of the new singer, but it is interesting about your comments re leaving Rachel material behind. I actually thought that we would get that with Illuminae, but there we go.

For me, the post-Rachel material bares very little resemblance; when he reformed for Gathering Light, he could quite reasonably have gone under a new name (and here, we are back on to one of our favourite subjects!). I for one, wish they would lay the Rachel material to rest, now. 

Machin is a class act, and I hate backing tapes. I am surprised that Ian went out on the road using them.

What is interesting, is a photo I found of the new band. There were 5 of them, presumably including a keyboard player... maybe they have recently departed? I'm not sure.
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Your profile picture inspired me to buy Marillion's marvellous Marbles album yesterday, which doubled by Marillion collection overnight. Also,  thanks for your excellent 5-star review of the album. Thumbs Up

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2022 at 05:15
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Well, I've returned from the recently revamped Chez Robin (quarter to one!!) and had my first coffee.

As you can imagine, Karnataka were very enjoyable and put on a solid show. As usual, no support, on stage 8.30, a 2 hour set comprising material mostly from Flame, Light & Angels, with a 30 minute break, finishing just after 11. Around 90 in the audience, with precious few under 50.. Cry

New vocalist Sertari has an excellent, mid-range Mezzo voice (not sure where Ian finds them) which is very powerful and comes across really well live. They played quite a bit off 'Gathering Light' and in terms of vocal range, Lisa's material is where she is the most natural fit. By contrast (and this is purely subjective) she can't replicate the earlier Rachel material; her voice is too powerful for the delicate, frail, ethereal sounds created there... Delicate Flame was anything but, with the drummer also being too prominent. In time, when they create more new material around her, I'm sure she will come into her own, but I hope that they can move on and leave the Rachel material behind; it is after all, 20 years old now and no-one can do justice to the nature of that material as well as her.

On this subject, they played 3 new tracks, all fairly expansive. Two will require further listens, but the 10 minuter, 'Forgiven', they played prior to the break is really excellent and one to look forward to on a forthcoming album. At present, they are a four piece and to be honest, Ian really does need to find himself a keyboard player, rather than playing to a backing recording; it's just too integral to their sound. A final word for their guitarist; not sure how Ian managed to get Luke Machin (The Tangent/ Cyan/ It Bites/ Maschine) on board, but he's of course a real talent; I just hope they write more progressive, guitar oriented material like 'Forgiven', for him to shine....  Cool

Really interesting review, thanks Jared. Firstly, a real shame about the attendance. I don’t know how this is going to improve, and I suppose the stop/start nature of Karnataka probably doesn’t help a great deal.

I’ll see if I can find any footage of the new singer, but it is interesting about your comments re leaving Rachel material behind. I actually thought that we would get that with Illuminae, but there we go. 

Machin is a class act, and I hate backing tapes. I am surprised that Ian went out on the road using them.
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Your profile picture inspired me to buy Marillion's marvellous Marbles album yesterday, which doubled by Marillion collection overnight. Also,  thanks for your excellent 5-star review of the album. Thumbs Up
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Well, I've returned from the recently revamped Chez Robin (quarter to one!!) and had my first coffee.

As you can imagine, Karnataka were very enjoyable and put on a solid show. As usual, no support, on stage 8.30, a 2 hour set comprising material mostly from Flame, Light & Angels, with a 30 minute break, finishing just after 11. Around 90 in the audience, with precious few under 50.. Cry

New vocalist Sertari has an excellent, mid-range Mezzo voice (not sure where Ian finds them) which is very powerful and comes across really well live. They played quite a bit off 'Gathering Light' and in terms of vocal range, Lisa's material is where she is the most natural fit. By contrast (and this is purely subjective) she can't replicate the earlier Rachel material; her voice is too powerful for the delicate, frail, ethereal sounds created there... Delicate Flame was anything but, with the drummer also being too prominent. In time, when they create more new material around her, I'm sure she will come into her own, but I hope that they can move on and leave the Rachel material behind; it is after all, 20 years old now and no-one can do justice to the nature of that material as well as her.

On this subject, they played 3 new tracks, all fairly expansive. Two will require further listens, but the 10 minuter, 'Forgiven', they played prior to the break is really excellent and one to look forward to on a forthcoming album. At present, they are a four piece and to be honest, Ian really does need to find himself a keyboard player, rather than playing to a backing recording; it's just too integral to their sound. A final word for their guitarist; not sure how Ian managed to get Luke Machin (The Tangent/ Cyan/ It Bites/ Maschine) on board, but he's of course a real talent; I just hope they write more progressive, guitar oriented material like 'Forgiven', for him to shine....  Cool
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Great stuff again, Steve! A real eye full! Clap

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

hey both - many happy returns to both of you. Have a great time at your respective events, and Jared let us know how Karnataka were. Nice to see Ian back with this.

Thanks Steve; of course I will.. Cool
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

^Mine's on Thursday...
13 bands overall on the main stage Friday to Sunday. Thumbs Up

Great stuff JD... have lovely day on Thurs, whatever you are doing and I'm quite sure you'll enjoy your festival.
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Great stuff again, Steve! A real eye full! Clap
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hey both - many happy returns to both of you. Have a great time at your respective events, and Jared let us know how Karnataka were. Nice to see Ian back with this.
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^Mine's on Thursday...I don't have tickets for anything. Cry
But who cares...I'm the Main Stage Manager for the OJBF. Clap
The Orangeville Blues and Jazz Festival starts on June 3rd and I get a weekend of great live music FREE ! This year...Friday Night's main act is The Legendary Downchild Blues Band and on Saturday Night the main act is 2010's Best New Band winner of the Maple Blues Award and 2016 Juno Nominee Blackburn then Sunday closes with 2022 Blues Album of the Year Juno Nominee Miss Emily.

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^^ You really do have the bit between your teeth Steve, I'll take a look soon.

Incidentally, it's my birthday tomorrow and Sue has bought me a ticket for Karnataka at Robin2 tomorrow night! Cool
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Review of Lighthouse Sparrows debut album, Aerials, added to Album Reviews of 2022 page.

Video of the Week updated - live Procol Harum (Salty Dog & Old English Dream)

New reviews of Frost*, Lifesigns, and Steven Wilson added to 2021 on Album Reviews by Year Page (scroll down to bottom of page).

New review of Big Big Train Empire (live DVD) added to 2020.

New review of Jon Anderson 1000 Hands added to 2019.

New reviews of Harvest & Yes added to 2014.

Ale of the Week added to Beer & News Page.

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First part of album reviews of 2011 added to Album Reviews By Year Page. There are quite a few more to follow.
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Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

Oooo … you’re giving Rivertree a run for his money. Just teasing. Both are beautifully crafted sites I will peruse from time to time.   

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Oooo … you’re giving Rivertree a run for his money. Just teasing. Both are beautifully crafted sites I will peruse from time to time.   
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If bands like Yes, Genesis, or King Crimson (not to mention most other bands) changed their names every time a band member left, I suspect our database would have at least 5 times the number of bands that we already have listed.  It is always an interesting discussion though.  At what point is the band no longer "that" band. 
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A very interesting post, Steve. Yes I agree that names do matter in the commercial world of music, whatever level you are at. I can think of a metal band who released two very popular melodic albums with one singer before going onto a hiatus, then when they reformed, they changed their style quite considerably to suit the darker, harsher vocals of their new frontman, Again, it was suggested that they really should have changed their name, except that the record company knew they would sell more albums and get bigger festival billings with the original one, irrespective of the nature of the material... but your point about Marillion has made me digress.

Back on topic, I think at heart every musician, certainly within the field of progressive rock, wants to develop and experiment with different sounds and styles, rather than rehashing the same thing for a decade; most barely get paid enough to make a living out of the music they make these days, so they want to fulfil themselves through artistic expression, The question is how to do so? Some will wish to work with a wide variety of musicians, but others have a closer circle of friends with which to do so.

This is where we can judge them by double standards, where we might criticise artists who may stay part of the main band which remains essentially consistent to it's core fans and avoids pushing the envelope. In this case, whilst setting up side projects to fulfil this need. On the other hand we applaud others who try to push their main vehicle through an evolution of styles and experimentation?

Again, just a thought...


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