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ooh wow wee the first album "Fugazi" then "Brave" amazingly awesome.............
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^ I do agree with SW in that the original mix is very good, I have felt no audio reason to get the previous remix because my original 1985 Capitol pressing mastered at Sterling Sound is sweet!!

But I do need a new copy and might as well go with this one, looking forward to the live tracks.
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Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

must`ve the new 4discs " Misplaced Childhood " anyone else

I have the vinyl set on pre-order already.

cool dude the vinyl one is for me too!
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Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

must`ve the new 4discs " Misplaced Childhood " anyone else

I have the vinyl set on pre-order already.
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in june2017 issue of Classic Rocks Prog Magazine. as a awesome insight into the swansong of Fish era album Clutching At Straws with both the band and artist Mark Wilkinson. to which I  personnel thought was awesome the one amazing out come is the cover art which Mark what it to finish up like, is miles more positive than the cover art which was used. imho that is. so the free poster is an added bonus for me. see yous all around the forum... 
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must`ve the new 4discs " Misplaced Childhood " anyone else
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FEAR still in outstanding awesome amazingly brilliant imho 
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Oh well, a tad later than planned, owing to one hell of a week's work, here is the setlist from the gig at Manchester Academy that Roj & I attended on Monday (we did not get to meet, unfortunately, owing to hellish congestion in the city centre - maybe another day!!):

The Invisible Man
Power
Sounds That Can't Be Made
Living In Fear
Sugar Mice
The New Kings
Easter
Man of a Thousand Faces
King
Neverland

Encore
El Dorado

Encore 2
This Strange Engine

I have been seeing this fine band live right from the very outset. My first time was The Marquee in those heady days when Market Square Heroes was released. They simply get better and better. Monday's gig was easily in my top five, and, by God, the reaction to the band from a sellout crowd was phenomenal. It was very directly reciprocated by a band clearly enjoying their craft immensely. I don't think I have ever seen Rothery smile so much in my lifeApprove

I thought the setlist was absolutely appropriate, a good mix of old and new.

Highlights? Well, there were many, but the performance of Invisible Man, which began with a screen video of Hogarth singing to us before the great man appeared "in the flesh", was incredibly powerful.

Sugar Mice, the sole track from the Dick years, has, ironically, given the real personal expressions by its writer on this and the parent album, become a track which Hogarth has made his very own.

Easter was a massive singalong fest. The band were visibly emotional during this.

The new tracks came across extremely well live. El Dorado was a fine encore, and this and the other two tracks played were performed with an incredible amount of passion, virtuosity, and powerful vibes. The New Kings introduction by h fitted in well, actually, with the narratives provided for Man of a Thousand Faces (it was simply great to hear this live again) and King.

Rothery was on sublime form, Moseley holds it all together live with deceptive underplay, because he really can hot it loud, Trewavas played beautifully, and Kelly was simply everywhere, with some marvellous soundscapes, effects, and sounds washing over us. As for Steve Hogarth, he has us all in the palm of his hands, really, quite extraordinary, and his voice was in absolutely fine fettle.

I only really a one quibble, and that is I would rather have heard White Paper over Power, but this is really a very minor moan when you consider just how good this gig was.

It is fair to say we all went away very happy. I was standing by a couple for most of the night, and the lady was at her first gig. She was deeply impressed, and her feller looked like a dog with three dicks!!LOL On the way to the gig, I met a Scouser by the name of Danny who lives in Norway, and travelled to the city especially for the gig. I really appreciated his and Dave's company in the queue to get in. Also, mention, and thanks for the beer, must go to Brian & Steve who were staying in the same hotel as I. Thanks all, your company was most welcome.

A great night. See the next post for even more exciting Marillion news.


A beautiful post Steve Clapand much more eloquent than I could ever muster, so I won't bother LOL.

It was a shame we didn't meet, the horror that is Manchester traffic put paid to that, hence the missus and I got there so late John Wesley was about to head to the bar Wink.  I totally agree on The Invisible Man, the intro with h on the big screen was fantastic.  A great gig, a superb blend of old and new songs, excellent sound, euphoric atmosphere and a great performance by the band.

Perhaps next time Steve?

Incidentally, I see the Royal Albert Hall gig sold out in about 10 seconds!! The band wanted to do additional dates there I understand but alas the powers that be at the RAH said sorry, no more.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


I have been seeing this fine band live right from the very outset. My first time was The Marquee in those heady days when Market Square Heroes was released. They simply get better and better. 

As usual.......I hate you! Cry
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^How sad, Laz. The Albert Hall adds so much class and prestige to many a great band that has performed there. A wonderful old venue and one of my favs in the UK. 
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Royal Albert Hall tickets sold out within five minutes.

No, I didn't get one
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Oh, forgot to mention, you can, as ever, purchase gigs from the band's website of the current tour. I am downloading, as we speak, the Manchester gig for the princely sum of £4.99.

An absolute snip!


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The band have announced that they are to play The Royal Albert Hall on 13 October 2017. Wow!!Clap

Tickets go on sale this Monday coming at midday. I will certainly be there to see the website crashLOL

I would hurry if you want to go. There is bound to be huge interest, and my understanding from the Marillion forum is that there are some 3,500 available. The most expensive seat is £75, whilst, from memory, the cheapest s £35, although please check, because I might be wrong about that.

The band have always wanted to play at this incredible venue. Count me in!! For details, go to the band's Facebook page.
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Oh well, a tad later than planned, owing to one hell of a week's work, here is the setlist from the gig at Manchester Academy that Roj & I attended on Monday (we did not get to meet, unfortunately, owing to hellish congestion in the city centre - maybe another day!!):

The Invisible Man
Power
Sounds That Can't Be Made
Living In Fear
Sugar Mice
The New Kings
Easter
Man of a Thousand Faces
King
Neverland

Encore
El Dorado

Encore 2
This Strange Engine

I have been seeing this fine band live right from the very outset. My first time was The Marquee in those heady days when Market Square Heroes was released. They simply get better and better. Monday's gig was easily in my top five, and, by God, the reaction to the band from a sellout crowd was phenomenal. It was very directly reciprocated by a band clearly enjoying their craft immensely. I don't think I have ever seen Rothery smile so much in my lifeApprove

I thought the setlist was absolutely appropriate, a good mix of old and new.

Highlights? Well, there were many, but the performance of Invisible Man, which began with a screen video of Hogarth singing to us before the great man appeared "in the flesh", was incredibly powerful.

Sugar Mice, the sole track from the Dick years, has, ironically, given the real personal expressions by its writer on this and the parent album, become a track which Hogarth has made his very own.

Easter was a massive singalong fest. The band were visibly emotional during this.

The new tracks came across extremely well live. El Dorado was a fine encore, and this and the other two tracks played were performed with an incredible amount of passion, virtuosity, and powerful vibes. The New Kings introduction by h fitted in well, actually, with the narratives provided for Man of a Thousand Faces (it was simply great to hear this live again) and King.

Rothery was on sublime form, Moseley holds it all together live with deceptive underplay, because he really can hot it loud, Trewavas played beautifully, and Kelly was simply everywhere, with some marvellous soundscapes, effects, and sounds washing over us. As for Steve Hogarth, he has us all in the palm of his hands, really, quite extraordinary, and his voice was in absolutely fine fettle.

I only really a one quibble, and that is I would rather have heard White Paper over Power, but this is really a very minor moan when you consider just how good this gig was.

It is fair to say we all went away very happy. I was standing by a couple for most of the night, and the lady was at her first gig. She was deeply impressed, and her feller looked like a dog with three dicks!!LOL On the way to the gig, I met a Scouser by the name of Danny who lives in Norway, and travelled to the city especially for the gig. I really appreciated his and Dave's company in the queue to get in. Also, mention, and thanks for the beer, must go to Brian & Steve who were staying in the same hotel as I. Thanks all, your company was most welcome.

A great night. See the next post for even more exciting Marillion news.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Just mentally and that didn't work so well.   


The Invisible Man
?
Living in FEAR
Power
Afraid of Sunlight
The New Kings
?
Eldorado
Sugar Mice
Easter
Three-minute Boy


First song and last 4 are for sure. The other 4 songs were played but I probably have the order messed up. Sang first verse of The Doors' Riders of the Storm. I didn't know the name of the 2nd song and I think I might be missing 1 or 2 in the middle.

Got it pretty close:

The Invisible Man
Power
Living in FEAR
Wave
Mad
Afraid of Sunlight
The New Kings (I -IV)
Neverland
Eldorado (I-V)
Sugar Mice
Easter
Three-minute Boy



Apologies for the insanely late response to this LOL.

I can certainly do without Sugar Mice (how about something like Man From The Planet Marzipan instead?) but other than that if they stick to that setlist on the UK tour I won't have any complaints.....


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Originally posted by Roj Roj wrote:

After a month or two of listening to FEAR, my conclusion is I like it a lot, although I have to say I do prefer the previous two.  HITR and STCBM are two of my favourite releases of theirs.

I know there's a lot of people who think the band really ceased to be when Fish left.  Personally, I take pretty much the opposite view.  I try to forget about the Fish era, it's another time, another band almost, and a distinctly inferior one at that, in my opinion.  Like Steve, I also saw the band several times before they signed a record deal.  At that time they were one of the few bands even playing prog rock, at the forefront of the "prog rock revival".  Even at that time they were one of my favourite bands.  I actually had their fantastic cassette album (which is probably worth a fortune now, God knows where it ever got to Cry).  So I'm not having a pop here, I'm giving my view too, having been there right at the start.  Suffice to say, the thought of the band going through Garden Party or Sugar Mice again live on tour is not really an appealing one to me.  There's plenty of H-era material to go at, after all.

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After a month or two of listening to FEAR, my conclusion is I like it a lot, although I have to say I do prefer the previous two.  HITR and STCBM are two of my favourite releases of theirs.

I know there's a lot of people who think the band really ceased to be when Fish left.  Personally, I take pretty much the opposite view.  I try to forget about the Fish era, it's another time, another band almost, and a distinctly inferior one at that, in my opinion.  Like Steve, I also saw the band several times before they signed a record deal.  At that time they were one of the few bands even playing prog rock, at the forefront of the "prog rock revival".  Even at that time they were one of my favourite bands.  I actually had their fantastic cassette album (which is probably worth a fortune now, God knows where it ever got to Cry).  So I'm not having a pop here, I'm giving my view too, having been there right at the start.  Suffice to say, the thought of the band going through Garden Party or Sugar Mice again live on tour is not really an appealing one to me.  There's plenty of H-era material to go at, after all.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Have you heard the Rocket Moth album?  It is from the people who brought you the Wishing Tree sans Rothery.
 
That can be quite interesting. I will search for it. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Wow. I thought the fanboys were in this thread, not outthere remixing albums.

I was just stating what I liked about Marillion. It just happens to be a remix album. So what? That album was a huge hit amongst some. It even was a dancefloor hit.

Also I compare the current Marillion to a Hogarth solo album for a reason. And I stated that reason above. Someone asked me why I consider the new Marillion album more as a Hogarthband album.

Also referring to me in third person instead of adressing me is plain rude.

Sorry not referring to you in the 3rd at all....This is a forum of many and I am simply stating to all, including you, that I did not get your post/joke whatever. Re-read your initial post, I mean really who were YOU talking to?? Confused
You listed Marillion as "the Steve Hogarth Band", I don't see where anyone asked you that? Don't get me wrong, in some ways I agree with you that a lot of what is going on in Marillion is influenced by H, and it seems the rest of the band is fine with that.

Also you are stating more about what you don't like about Marillion, which is perfectly fine, no issue at all. But we don't have to agree with you in anyway, we all have our own opinions.

Again, I don't compare solo releases to a band release, but that is just me, I think most would say "my solo release has nothing to do with my main band releases"....You seem to do that and that is fine also. I think it is a tad strange, again only me.

As lazland (Steve) stated, there are very good reasons why FEAR will never be a top 100 prog album but for me those lists can be hogwash for the most part. The only list that matters is MY playlist and FEAR is in it, for very good reasons.
 
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I think it's really important to bring up Ice Scream Genius when I discuss what happened to Marillion the past decade.

In my opinion they turned from democratic rock band to back-up of a singer.
But that's just my point of view.
 
Funny thing though, is that recent Steve Rothery solo albums did not really move me.
But the thing is, a band does what a band does, and can't please anyone.
I'm glad they still have a huge fanbase, and I have fond memories of the H-era albums up to Marbles.
But after three (!!!) disappointing albums (sans Less is More), it's really over for me.

The weakest thing about modern Marillion (Hogarth's voice) is their full-on trademark.
Too bad, but maybe Rothery will release a soloabum (like Wishing Tree) wich I will enjoy. We'll see.
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