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resurrection 
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 Posted: August 14 2011 at 00:47 |
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A tough one. Crimson's album defined the genre and was more of a height than anything Yes produced. But Yes was the first of the two bands to successfully exploit the genre created by 1-2-3, and even influenced Crimson in doing so. Given that this is Prog Archives, the vote goes to Crimson for announcing the style to the world.
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thehallway
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 05:43 |
 Billy Pilgrim wrote:
thehallway wrote:
I think Fripp would prefer Yes and Yes would prefer KC....... and not just out of politeness.
Crimson certainly influenced Yes, but by the time they made Heart of the Sunrise they were doing their own thing, and were doing far more complex numbers than any other band at that time ('cept maybe Gentle Giant). What Epignosis said rings true..... Yes were brilliant composers, creating pieces of music on a similar level to Stravinsky and Debussy, while KC relied on improvisation and expanding small pockets of genius into long, atmospheric mood pieces. Neither band could do what the other one did best very well at all. |
That about sums it up, both great in different ways, although I do think that KC were great composers as well, Lizard is a very cohesive piece.
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True. But chordally, I wouldn't say it approaches Yes's level of sophistication. And it's more of a "lots of linear sections" piece, rather than a rounded off, eighteen-minute "song" like Close to the Edge. The story holds it together, but the thing I love most about Lizard is spotting all the different instruments floating in and out of the mix. Chamber music at it's modern best!
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ULikeThatDontYa
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 16:43 |
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I really only liked a few King Crimson albums, but the majority of Yes albums are good IMO. So I prefer yes.
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:15 |
thehallway wrote:
I think Fripp would prefer Yes and Yes would prefer KC....... and not just out of politeness.
Crimson certainly influenced Yes, but by the time they made Heart of the Sunrise they were doing their own thing, and were doing far more complex numbers than any other band at that time ('cept maybe Gentle Giant). What Epignosis said rings true..... Yes were brilliant composers, creating pieces of music on a similar level to Stravinsky and Debussy, while KC relied on improvisation and expanding small pockets of genius into long, atmospheric mood pieces. Neither band could do what the other one did best very well at all. |
That about sums it up, both great in different ways, although I do think that KC were great composers as well, Lizard is a very cohesive piece.
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GypsyJoker
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Posted: August 09 2011 at 19:53 |
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Urgh. Like asking if I love my wife or my daughter more.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 09 2011 at 19:06 |
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Yes for me.
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 15:43 |
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I like Yes very much...well becuase I think they are much better than whatever people feel was the best KC ever recorded. So I like Yes much more.........Must be why I only have one KC album (guess).....and I have 11 Yes albums in my collection.
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 15:30 |
I don't comment. My nick and avatar says it all... 
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himtroy
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 14:12 |
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King Crimson has over twenty albums I like, Yes has one that I don't like, though not as much as any of those.
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clarkpegasus4001
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 13:07 |
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Yes easily for me
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Tony C.
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kevin4peace
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 01:30 |
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KC all the way. I haven't really 'gotten' Yes' stuff after CTTE. The first 3 KC eras were all amazing.
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Nothing to say here. Nothing at all. Nothing is easy.
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dasa
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Posted: July 16 2011 at 03:11 |
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Also like them equally, but bands are totally different. KC is KC and Yes is Yes.
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Ruby900
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Posted: July 13 2011 at 05:22 |
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I like them equally, but very, very different ways.
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Phobia14
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 19:45 |
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Definitely King Crimson for me. I prefer their darker atmosphere and Fripp's guitar work... and the fact that they didn't make pop albums.
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criticdrummer94
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 16:36 |
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Yes because Fragile is an incredible album that can match any KC album even though they are very different bands
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EchidnasArf
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 16:08 |
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Voted for KC but I listen to and love both for completely different reasons.
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 13:58 |
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Crimson shmimson
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 13:09 |
Anthony wrote:
I'd vote for Yes.... if Jon Anderson was still in the band. |
Wouldn't you like to have RW in the band as well?
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crimhead
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 13:08 |
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Crim. There;s very little about there music that I don't like. I can't say the same about Yes with all the changes and their output since Going for the One.
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Anthony
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Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:28 |
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I'd vote for Yes.... if Jon Anderson was still in the band.
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Yes vs. King Crimson
