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progismylife 
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 Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:58 |
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I think it is really ironic that I am a Christian yet my favorite Iron Maiden song is The Number of the Beast.
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mystic fred
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:54 |
There can't possibly be room for Christianity in rock music, because as we all know - The Devil has all the best tunes! 
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fullbug13
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:50 |
 laplace wrote:
^ is that a troll or sock-puppet post? I can't believe that someone would do that in all sincerity. . . . . . . .just because I think if they've had time to find god then their mind hasn't been on the music =P |
In all sincerity, yes, I did do that! I have not posted in over a year and forgot my screen name. I visit this site almost daily, so call me a troll, I don't care.
However, I believe you are correct about one thing . . . I think when Neal and Kerry found God (spelled with a capital G), their minds where not on their music, but on God.
And you can quote me on that!
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progismylife
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:50 |
Meddler wrote:
I'm gonna say makes it worse. No one should profane worship by using ROCK instruments to praise God.
Let's use the most rebellious instruments to praise God!!
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You it was a symbol for rebellion and that's why a bunch of the really old people don't appreciate rock music, but it is the way the intent of the artist that matters, not the instruments used. And besides it isn't profane worship if it is worshiping God.
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:49 |
darkmatter wrote:
It's not a bad thing for band members to be Christian. I just don't like when lyrics start to involve God. It just seems.... weird to me. God and rock music don't mix in my opinion.
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darkmatter
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:47 |
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It's not a bad thing for band members to be Christian. I just don't like when lyrics start to involve God. It just seems.... weird to me. God and rock music don't mix in my opinion.
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Meddler
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:46 |
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I'm gonna say makes it worse. No one should profane worship by using ROCK instruments to praise God.
Let's use the most rebellious instruments to praise God!!
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progismylife
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:40 |
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I don't think a band should go downhill when a band member finds God. I think they should continue playing but devote their playing towards God. It really bugs me when people feel they should stop playing a certain kind of music since they became Christian. I know a few people who burnt albums because they became a Christian and were a little over zealous. They regretted burning such albums since you can still enjoy music as long as God is still number 1 in your life. It isn't that hard to keep your focus on God and still play great music (well for me it isn't)
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laplace
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:28 |
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^ is that a troll or sock-puppet post? I can't believe that someone would do that in all sincerity. I voted in the negative not because of any bias or blah blah blah, but just because I think if they've had time to find god then their mind hasn't been on the music =P
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fullbug13
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 11:25 |
theBox wrote:
An artist can find this G.hastly O.verrated D.eity without it affecting his creativity. |
I had to re-register just to voice my anger at this. You believe that God is an over-rated deity? I hope that you find the truth before standing in His judgement.
What you all seem to misunderstand, is that Neal Morse & Kerry Livgren have found Christ Jesus as their Savior. They are not out to musically appeal to anyone any longer; they are out to live for God and Jesus Christ. They are using the talents that God has given them to publically praise and worship our Father and King. Who cares what you think about them or their music! What matters is what God, the 'under-rated, under-worshipped, under-praised & mostly forgotten Creator' wants of them.
I am extremely proud of these men. I am proud of Brian Welch too, former lead guitarist of the hard core metal band Korn. When you find Jesus as who He is, the Savior of man, the ONLY way to personally know God the Father . . . you WANT to praise Him.
These men don't care if you want them to be or do or say what they did BEFORE finding God; they care more about "what does [my] God want from [me]".
Matt. 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who willfully sinned!’
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21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
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E-Dub
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 09:40 |
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I don't think it's the lyrics people have a problem with, but the CONTENT of a song.
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Pnoom!
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:47 |
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When Damo Suzuki found God... there went the greatest band ever... sure, CAN was still good for a while afterwards... but they weren't the same...
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:46 |
sleeper wrote:
Well, when the song writer becomes overtly religious the lyrics instantly take a nose dive and that can have an effet on the music so I voted no. However, the poor lyrics doesnt automatically mean poor music so its really a case of inbetween.
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And why is that? How can it be that the lyrics deppreciate THAT much simply because of a person's faith? I don't think it's a case of the lyrics being so bad, but more of a case of how the listener 'hears' the lyrics. It's still the same person and nothing has changed, except for one thing: his/her faith.
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:45 |
I think there should be an option '3'.....
I think that a persons faith is a personal thing, ram it down my throat and I will back away, but I have no issue with a persons faith.
P-C
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E-Dub
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:41 |
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Not sure I can vote. I do think that changes will and do occur when a band member becomes a Christian (as in the cases outlined by Masque), but Phil Ehart is a Christian and it's never affected the band.
In my opinion, having a personal relationship with God can never be a negative thing.
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sleeper
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:40 |
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Well, when the song writer becomes overtly religious the lyrics instantly take a nose dive and that can have an effet on the music so I voted no. However, the poor lyrics doesnt automatically mean poor music so its really a case of inbetween.
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E-Dub
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:31 |
Atavachron wrote:
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I've heard of this phenomenon...what examples can be provided for my personal amusement? |
The guys in U2 had a huge God period, almost broke them up. Then they decided God would want them to keep making music, which is a pretty cool solution I think. |
Religion is slowly finding a way back into their music here and there. It's not 'in your face', but it's there ("Yeweh" from HTDAAB is the latest). Also, during the Elevation tour, Bono would quote scripture between the songs "Bad" and "Where The Streets Have No Name".
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:28 |
kazansky wrote:
hmm... i wonder what happens when Marilyn Manson meets God ? |
He should be sent there due to lack of talent alone.
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:17 |
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That can't be generalized.
A musician who finds faith may pretty much stay sane or just go totally nuts. It depends.
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Posted: February 06 2007 at 08:04 |
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Yes! When lyrics, music refer to question of God - I'm content. For example: Popol Vuh.
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