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^ Thanks, Julien, audio and video versions of "Us + Them" updated.
Unfortunately audio + video version doesn't exist (at least now).

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

Finally, the problem with these audio + video entries is that the reviews are split between both, even if they are more or less the same release. 
I don't think it's a problem, because video adds an extra dimension.

I remember my impressiions of one of "more or less the same releases". Smile
It was Roger Waters' live record. I first bought 2CD version of "In The Flesh" album. OK, I thought then, it's a decent record, but Pink Floyd songs sound not exactly like Floyd.
Later I purchased the DVD, and it was jaw-dropping, not only because of lights and visuals, but because of Roger's energy and charisma. If David Gilmour was responsible for musicality of the band called Pink Floyd, "In The Flesh" video clearly shows who was the nerve of the band. 
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^ Eugene, I didn't expect this answer from you. Tongue

I was asking this because the US +THEM entry was already listed as: 2CD, 3LP, Blu-ray, DVD.

Then it was added recently as a studio album (wrong category!), as if it was an audio-only release... and moreover with a weird (unofficial) cover art.

Maybe we can keep both entries, but many changes have to be made, don't you think?

Finally, the problem with these audio + video entries is that the reviews are split between both, even if they are more or less the same release.
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^ Julien, I didn't expect this question from you.

All these entries are correct.
The logic is simple:
- audio-only releases go to Live Albums;
- video-only editions belong to Videos.
I think it's fair because visuals add something to listening experience (or, in some cases, spoil the party Smile).

Audio + Video sets are trickier - they fit to both categories, it often takes some time to decide where each particular release has to be added.


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Roger Waters, Us + Them

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69993

The latter (new addition) should be under "live albums" but I also think it should be deleted (duplicate).

Then, I noticed that three other live releases from Roger Waters have "duplicate" entries (both music AND video). So should we continue that trend??

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5261
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7528

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5257
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7526

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=50874
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=50875


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^ Will be done soon by admins, thanks!
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Just added a BERT JANSCH compilation A Man I'd Rather Be (Part 1), and for a momentary page loading problem it came there twice. Please remove the other one, thanks! 
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^ Definitely. Thanks for letting us know.
I'll ask admins to delete the second entry.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65033
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=63297
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^ Well, thanks a lot Eugene! Smile
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^ Already done. Smile
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^ OK then, I will update them when I have some time... Wink
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^ These are tricky ones.

Discogs reads:
"Concert recorded at Hammersmith Odeon on March 9th 1975.
This recording has mostly been bootleged or released with dubious legal status, under different titles and with wrong information, often mistakenly said to be recorded live in Cleveland, Ohio, May 5th, 1976 at Richfield Stadium. The only fully legit release of this recording was as a bonus disc on the 40th anniversary reissue of 'Crime of the Century'."

But Discogs doesn't block selling some of this record's versions. Are they "not so illegal"? Confused

Additionally, 2014 edition, Alive in America, looks like a didital album. Probably it's legal, I don't know. At least Spotify and Lastfm have it.

Some reviewers' last visits are in 2018 and 2019, i.e. it's a problem to contact them (in order to repost their reviews).

Thus I'd suggest to correct details of both albums and let them live.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=1264

Same audio source, both are unofficial releases, but both have reviews.


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^ OK admins will delete the latter, thanks.
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VOL. 6 - PROGRESSIV ROCK 1971-1977 (2004)
Various Artists (Concept albums & Themed compilations) • Various Genres
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^ OK, Julien, asked admins now.
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^ That's a simple rule, I like it. Wink

Can you ask admins to delete the duplicate album, then? Because I don't know if you already did. Thanks.
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Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

One thing is for sure, the only album that could be deleted from the database would be http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65031 because it has no written reviews.

We should take the time to read each band's biography to have a better understanding...

Julien, mentioned unreviewed album has to be deleted, no doubt.

"Desperate Straights" in SLAPPY HAPPY discography will survive. There was a simple (I don't remember, written or unwritten) rule: simultaneous album belongs on PA to the artist listed first on the album's cover (SLAPPY HAPPY in our case).  
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I've only recently properly explored the Slapp Happy back catalogue, so am very much a novice when it comes to their history.
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^ Wow! Thanks! But this is a difficult case!

One thing is for sure, the only album that could be deleted from the database would be http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=65031 because it has no written reviews.

We should take the time to read each band's biography to have a better understanding...
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